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So Nintendo wins because most of its games don't make me feel bad for playing them right?

Get some nuance with your theology and get back to me. If you shame yourself over some of the stuff that's "bad", that's not the company's fault.

 

Yeah, don't buy Sony TVs because they have bad programming!

Wait, what?

(Console creators and game design are largely unrelated. This isn't the point that Olijar was getting at, but it's related to your first statement.)

While I share and agree with the sentiment of separating the console from the games made for it, there's no need to degrade someone that thinks otherwise. It's their prerogative what they spend their money on and if they feel that staying away from the system as a whole is better for their walk then we should be glad they're trying to avoid temptation.

On the other hand, that doesn't necessarily mean you can't/shouldn't use the system if you find that it doesn't bother you spiritually. Everyone is different and sin comes in many shapes, sizes, and flavors for each person.

For me personally, I find gaming to be a favored activity but I stay away from games that blatantly have things that bother me either personally or spiritually. I don't expect others to do the same but I respectfully decline or leave if said games are being played somewhere else and don't allow them to be played in my residence.

Nintendo only got better with the Wii U. It has 5 player options for certain games with new controls. We use the Wii U a ton and it has been amazing. It rarely freezes ( unlike my Sony Vita ) and has all the same games you are used to with a new look and controls. I have heard the " worried about sharing the Gamepad " issue and it has never been a problem with a group of competitive adults, a 13 year old and a 6 year old. At night we usually watch an Andy Griffith show on amazon and relax. So the Wii U was 100% worth the purchase.

We use the Wii U a ton and it has been amazing. It rarely freezes ( unlike my Sony Vita )

I've never had my Vita freeze... and mine is one of the first gen launch Vitas.

It's also not exactly fair to compare Wii U hardware to Vita hardware.

Even though they're probably not far removed in specs (shameless pot-shot #1).

It's sad but true... I mean have you seen Final Fantasy X HD on the Vita? It looks ridonkulous!

The number one selling non-Nintendo game of all time is Kinect Adventures.

It is. It means Nintendo dominates the Top 10 with Wii Sports, Super Mario Bros, Tetris, and Duck Hunt. Unfortunately for PC enthusiasts, the novelties you find bundled away in your Accessories folder do not count towards NPD Groups retail tracking. Or any industry expert for that matter.

Sales of stand alone games are much better indicators in this regard. For that we have Halo 3 (XBox 360), for Grand Theft Auto V (PS3), and Mario Kart Wii (Wii).

I can see where you're coming from, but it's also easy to find that bundled games often do sell the console. This is especially true for bundled games that are not part of the console at launch. Kinect Adventures was not bundled with the 360 at launch, unlike all of the bundled Nintendo games in the top 10.

And a tiny correction, if the list of games you cited were in regards to last gens top selling 'standalone' games, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 sold 3 million more copies over Halo 3 on the 360.

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on April 15, 2014, 07:23:54 AM

Just a question--if you were interested in a system solely to play family-friendly games, would anyone here really pay $100-$200 more to get a PS4 or XBox One over a Wii U?

Looking at lists of best-selling games for the various PS and XBox consoles, it is fairly clear that the majority of Sony and Microsoft fans are not buying the hardware to specialize in the family-friendly side of the fence.

We've had this discussion before, but the short of it is PS4, and XB1, while having more non family friendly games, have way more games coming out for them overall than Wii U. So while maybe only 40% of them are rated E, 40% of a much larger pie is still more than 80% of a much smaller one.

So, you are claiming that for someone who wants to play family-friendly games only it is worth the extra $100-$200 to buy a PS4 or an XBox One to get access to this additional content?

You choose the games you buy, so M rated games popularity on those systems is irrelevant.

Except it makes me question how good all of those extra family-friendly games are given that most current XBox and PS owners treat it as second class content at best (with the notable exception of the Gran Turismo family on PS). Even if we put aside sales rankings as a measure the only time I ever hear anyone mention family-friendly games on XBoxen and PSes is in discussions like these. If they truly are superior systems in this regard, you think it would come up more often.

Buy whatever you want, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind on their favorite system, I'm arguing against the idea that the PS4/XB1 are inherently evil compared to the WiiU because of the games that are available for the. Its a silly premese to begin with but if the WiiU and Wii didn't have such garbage hardware they'd have those games anyway.

I gotta say every time I point out I prefer the wii u, I get told it is for children

Not just for children, but for grandmas too.