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« Reply #325 on: November 17, 2009, 03:34:56 PM »
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My point exactly!!

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« Reply #326 on: November 17, 2009, 04:24:49 PM »
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Like I said earlier, speed is NOT everything, but it is a MAJOR aspect. The way to make a quality tier list is to weigh the pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. DDD has a few major cons (speed, size, etc), but he has BEASTLY recovery, AMAZING projectiles, chain throws, awesome strats, etc. His pros have proven to outweigh his cons, so he is top tier. Now, Ganondorf has many cons (slow, big, bad recovery, hard to maneuver, few combos, etc) and few pros (high knock back, more damage). His cons outweigh his pros, so he is bottom tier.

The main thing to do is have fun. I main Captain Falcon in brawl, who is in the bottom 3 on the tier list and was on the bottom for a long period of time, due to the fact I find it enjoyable.

I'd be willing to play your brother, but I haven't even touched Brawl since MN State/NC Regionals, in which case I only played a few games. I haven't seriously played Brawl in over a year, so I'm not very good :3.

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« Reply #327 on: November 17, 2009, 06:20:27 PM »
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Like I said earlier, speed is NOT everything, but it is a MAJOR aspect. The way to make a quality tier list is to weigh the pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. DDD has a few major cons (speed, size, etc), but he has BEASTLY recovery, AMAZING projectiles, chain throws, awesome strats, etc. His pros have proven to outweigh his cons, so he is top tier. Now, Ganondorf has many cons (slow, big, bad recovery, hard to maneuver, few combos, etc) and few pros (high knock back, more damage). His cons outweigh his pros, so he is bottom tier.

The main thing to do is have fun. I main Captain Falcon in brawl, who is in the bottom 3 on the tier list and was on the bottom for a long period of time, due to the fact I find it enjoyable.

I'd be willing to play your brother, but I haven't even touched Brawl since MN State/NC Regionals, in which case I only played a few games. I haven't seriously played Brawl in over a year, so I'm not very good :3.
remind me to bring it to the next game night and tournament. we'll have to have a way to keep the kidies off of it though. they need to play at least 1 or two games of redemption...

perhaps DDD is better than I at first thought. I never play with him.

if Ganondorf wasn't last place in smash, then somebody else would be mad. although, I do think Jigglypuff deserves to be last. she was once one of the best characters. and then Brawl came along. I will miss your glory days Jiggly.  :'( she was wayy too handicapped from her former awesomeness. she was probably my favorite character to play with, just to see people's faces when I used her and blew them off the screen with the down B awesomeness.

so, my bottom three is Link, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff.

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« Reply #328 on: November 17, 2009, 07:29:17 PM »
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Yeah, my list from best to worst of the last three would be something like Ganondorf, Bowser, Jigglypuff.  Link is down there somewhere too, just because of his slow speed and slightly difficult handling.  But he's one of my mains, nonetheless. :)

As far as a match between my brother and you, Rawrlolsauce!, I'd need to get the USB device and get internet connection first.  Then we'll see if my brother want's to play or not.  If this whole thing is possible, his alias will probably be Edmnd (based on Edmunds from the show 24).  If you wanted to play me then, mine would probably be NotW (no special reason other than it comes from Colossians 2:8 and it is my username on almost all websites).

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« Reply #329 on: November 17, 2009, 08:11:43 PM »
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My bottom three would be Yoshi, Link, Gannondorf. I like Jigglypuff in brawl, even though she did get weaker. She wasn't actually too good in melee (I think she should have been even lower on the tier list), but she was used a lot because she would utterly destroy Fox and Falcon, which is half the top tier.

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« Reply #330 on: November 17, 2009, 10:17:38 PM »
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I think my bottom five, in order from worst to best, would be:

1. Jigglypuff
2. Peach
3. Ganondorf
4. Yoshi
5. Link
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« Reply #331 on: November 17, 2009, 11:11:48 PM »
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I think my bottom five, in order from worst to best, would be:

1. Jigglypuff
2. Peach
3. Ganondorf
4. Yoshi
5. Link
Peach got a lot worse in Brawl too. Peach and Jiggly were two of my favorites.
My bottom three would be Yoshi, Link, Gannondorf. I like Jigglypuff in brawl, even though she did get weaker. She wasn't actually too good in melee (I think she should have been even lower on the tier list), but she was used a lot because she would utterly destroy Fox and Falcon, which is half the top tier.
seriously? Jiggly pnwd all (not quite, but still) I loved Jiggly. amazing recovery, powerful moves, isn't slow... and all around fun to use!

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« Reply #332 on: November 18, 2009, 01:35:43 AM »
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Just a quick interposing of the Ganondorf conversation: would you guys say that Wolf is sort of the Star Fox equivalent of Meta Knight character-wise?  I've heard that it might instead be Falco, but Wolf seems a tad more accurate to me.

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« Reply #333 on: November 18, 2009, 02:57:33 AM »
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falco. wolf isnt that great.
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« Reply #334 on: November 18, 2009, 09:18:41 AM »
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falco is the best of the star-fox characters. I main with Wolf for Multi brawl. I switch around with single brawls, but I usually use Wolf, Marth, Ike or Snake. I've also been trying out MK and Pit. Wolf is just a beast. I mean, his up taunt is craazy.

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« Reply #335 on: November 18, 2009, 12:47:37 PM »
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Well, I'm not actually meaning this in terms of Smash movesets, but in terms of their roles in the respective stories.  Meta Knight is portrayed not as an evil character, but one who merely appears and challenges Kirby.  He often has the same goals, but needs to stop Kirby in order to fulfill them.  I think this is what they are making Wolf into.  As far as I know, in Star Fox Command he is a fully playable character with a story mode in which he becomes a hero.  Similar to Meta Knight, wouldn't you say?  Although I could understand the Falco comparison...

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« Reply #336 on: November 18, 2009, 02:03:41 PM »
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well in that case, yeah, i believe you're right...wolf isnt necessarily 'evil' per se (because i dont recall him working for andross or anything in the star fox games), but he is a rival i guess.
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« Reply #337 on: December 09, 2009, 02:09:16 PM »
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You know, lately I've really gotten to like Toon Link. He used to be my favorite character, and I now remember why. He has awesome recovery, chain grab, three different kinds of missiles, and quick, powerful smash attacks.

Come on, guys! Don't let the flames of smashing die out!
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« Reply #338 on: December 10, 2009, 12:38:34 PM »
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Toon Link should not even be in the game. He is a 2-d cartoon character, not a 3-d moving character.  He is ok in Brawl, but I would have rather had Slippy from Star Fox with a different smash than the others or even another pokemon character than him.
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« Reply #339 on: December 10, 2009, 12:45:47 PM »
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Well, regardless of whether he should be a Brawl character, I think he's a good one.
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Re: SSBB
« Reply #340 on: December 10, 2009, 01:14:19 PM »
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I think my bottom five, in order from worst to best, would be:

1. Jigglypuff
2. Peach
3. Ganondorf
4. Yoshi
5. Link
Yeah, Yoshi really became quite useless in Brawl.  It's a shame, too, because he was my favorite in Melee.  :(  I usually play Olimar, since he has awesome grab range, smashes, and arials.
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« Reply #341 on: December 10, 2009, 01:38:16 PM »
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Toon Link should not even be in the game. He is a 2-d cartoon character, not a 3-d moving character.  He is ok in Brawl, but I would have rather had Slippy from Star Fox with a different smash than the others or even another pokemon character than him.
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« Reply #342 on: December 10, 2009, 03:37:30 PM »
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Wind Waker. 3-D.
For a while I thought 3-D was supposed to be someone smiling with their eyes closed, and was quite confused as to how it was significant.
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« Reply #343 on: December 10, 2009, 04:06:52 PM »
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You know, lately I've really gotten to like Toon Link. He used to be my favorite character, and I now remember why. He has awesome recovery, chain grab, three different kinds of missiles, and quick, powerful smash attacks.

Come on, guys! Don't let the flames of smashing die out!
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« Reply #344 on: December 10, 2009, 05:33:34 PM »
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You know, lately I've really gotten to like Toon Link. He used to be my favorite character, and I now remember why. He has awesome recovery, chain grab, three different kinds of missiles, and quick, powerful smash attacks.

Come on, guys! Don't let the flames of smashing die out!
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« Reply #345 on: December 11, 2009, 12:39:36 AM »
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Toon Link is a good idea, I think he fits the brawl roster pretty well.

They could, however, have added some more Donkey Kong characters, such as King K. Rool, some other Kongs, maybe some of the bad guys, etc etc.  All around I think the Brawl character list is pretty good, and the reason they didn't put in more characters probably had something to do with the memory the Wii system contained.

I've recently been playing a lot as the Pokemon Trainer.  Now there's a good idea for a new character.  I mean, what better way to introduce Pokemon Trainer Red to the series than to have him fight with Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle?  Absolutely brilliant idea.  Squirtle is even comparable (in my opinion) to Fox or Falco as far as weight/speed goes.  He's got amazing chain (and not to mention exceptionally fast) grabs, an all around great moveset, and he is blue (my favorite color).  Who doesn't like blue characters? :)

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« Reply #346 on: December 11, 2009, 09:48:06 AM »
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Knuckles or Shadow would have worked well.

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« Reply #347 on: December 11, 2009, 10:02:34 AM »
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Totally. Knuckles didn't even get an assist trophy, did he?
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« Reply #348 on: December 11, 2009, 11:14:00 AM »
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Knuckles or Shadow would have worked well.
I totally would play with knuckles. Dude's a beast...
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« Reply #349 on: December 11, 2009, 11:54:23 AM »
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People have been begging for Sonic for years. And he's just awful. Be happy for the fanservice you got.
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