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Thats half the reason I chose Marth, haha. I was thinking it was like a 30:70 matchup or something like that.

I think JSB was joking. Hence my rofl face after his post. 

I'm not so sure about that Luigi/Marth matchup... Luigi is a little quicker and more agile in the air. I think that Marth is very good... but I'm not sure about him winning 70% of the time.

Quote from: JSB23 on June 23, 2009, 01:06:42 PM

Quote from: wk4c on June 23, 2009, 12:35:11 PM

Quote from: JSB23 on June 23, 2009, 02:59:28 AM

Quote from: wk4c on June 23, 2009, 02:01:22 AM

Wow, I really hope your not serious with your arrogance, Unforgivable.  0_o

He's not being arrogant, he's actually that good

I don't care if your the best player in the world, nothing justifies being a jerk.

After re-reading that post several time I fail to see what you are talking about

Um, ok?  Here, try again:

Even if your the best player in the world, it doesn't justify being a jerk.

I fail to see what part of Unforgivable's post you are talking about

I think JSB was joking. Hence my rofl face after his post. 

I'm not so sure about that Luigi/Marth matchup... Luigi is a little quicker and more agile in the air. I think that Marth is very good... but I'm not sure about him winning 70% of the time.

The matchups don't really mean that one character will win __% of the time. It takes the advantages and disadvantages, strengths and weaknesses, etc and weighs them against each other.

And after checking, I've seen two different numbers. One thread on the smashboards said it was 70:30 Marth and another said it was 75:25 Marth

Sorry if i came off wrong with the "I'm pretty sure...".

he already apologized for that. the post above doesn't really have anything that displayed arrogance, just character stats

Marth
Snake
Wolf
Ike
Meta Knight

in no paticular order.

Luigi (No question)
Fox
MK (This isn't the only reason, but infinite cape is fun!)

For one thing, the forward smash; is faster than that of falco, therefore less readable.  The deflector shield, also.  It might not come in too much handy reflecting things, but if you attack someone with it, it doesn't leave you as open for a grab or attack when you're done, unlike falco, who throws it at you.  The return trip is more than enough time to get thrown or smash attacked.  The air down-a, for me, is a little bit better than that of falco's.  Falco's, if hit right, does send them to the ground (or in the air if they are on the ground), but Fox's doesn't send them far, allowing you to throw them right after, if done quick enough.  Fox's up-b has more length than falco's, and with the jump and double jump, he has a better recovery. 

what do you like in Fox that Wolf doesn't have?

Quote from: Ring Wraith on July 14, 2009, 09:58:40 AM

what do you like in Fox that Wolf doesn't have?

What do you like in Wolf that Metaknight doesn't have?

You don't need a reason to like a character.  Some characters are strictly inferior to others in many situations, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't play them.  It is a game, after all.

Fox and Wolf are comparable. Wolf and MK aren't... I can understand why Falco is a top person, but Fox I don't. Melee he was amazing, Brawl, I have yet to see why he's better than Wolf

Mainly just speed, I think.

speed isn't everything. sure, wolf is not the fastest character, but he's definately not a slow character like Gannondorf, Ike or Bowser. speed should not be the sole reason...

I do ever so hate to necropost, but I just recently started to get really into the game, and I would love to continue this conversation (as nerdily as possible).

I really like playing with pretty much all of the characters (save for a few crappers like Jigglypuff and Ice Climbers (I mean seriously, are those a joke?!)). In fact, what I often do is put me and a CPU against 2 CPU's, all randomized, and see how I do with whoever I get. But if I were to pick favorites, they would have to be these:

Ike (Marth also I guess, but Ike is a total powerhouse, and also has some speed and air in moderation)
Lucas (Ness also, but I don't like his yo-yo attacks: the only thing I don't like about them are their recoveries, which I have yet to master)
Pikachu (he has speed and power, and his B down is awesomeness)
Fox/Falcon/Wolf (not sure yet which one is better, but all of them are fun to use, especially Wolf)
Kirby (simply awesome - I love stealing powers, even if they aren't that great)
Captain Falco (fiery awesome attacks all-around, as well as some speed and air)

MK has not proven himself to be especially awesome to me, and most others are either too weak or too slow for my taste.

this is really weird but my favorite is...PIT!!! i am awesome with pit! i fly back onto the stage when i fall and use angel ring to trap someone against a wall and sit there giving them damage. then i just hit them and it K.O.'s them angel ring also blocks and sends all projectiles back to where it was shot in the first place