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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1350 on: November 20, 2015, 09:54:24 PM »
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Brann in mill rouge is kinda fun all the cold light draw 4 so it gets a little ridiculous.

If I gang up Brann and then drop a cold light would it trigger for d 6 with 2 Brann in play?

Reno makes me think some really creative decks could surprise people
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1351 on: November 20, 2015, 11:04:05 PM »
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If I gang up Brann and then drop a cold light would it trigger for d 6 with 2 Brann in play?
I would assume not. It says "twice" so a second Brann would be redundant since the battlecry is already triggering twice from the first Brann. If it said "an additional time" or "again" then I could see it stacking triggers.

Reno makes me think some really creative decks could surprise people
I lost to a handlock that fully healed from 6 with him.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1352 on: November 20, 2015, 11:30:02 PM »
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Reno is really popular right now on ladder.  I still think he weakens your deck more than helps it because of card dilution, but the effect is obviously strong when it works.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1353 on: November 21, 2015, 12:32:41 AM »
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1 avenge
1 competitive Spirit
1 noble sacrifice
1 redemption
1 repentance
2 equality
2 argent protector
2 Farie dragon
2 mad scientist
2 shielded mini-bot
3 divine favor
3 blackwing technician
3 Alford peace keeper
3 muster for battle
4 consecration
4 true silver champion
4 twilight guardian
4 Murloc Knight
4 blessing of Kings
5 blackwing corrupter
5 dragon consort
6 emperor thaurissan
6 Reno Jackson
6 mysterious Challenger
7 chillmaw
8 lay on hands
8 tirion
8 chromaggus
9 nefarian
9 ysera

Just put this together, thoughts? I'm gonna run it on ladder
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1354 on: November 21, 2015, 12:46:05 AM »
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I don't get it. You don't have to play singleton just because you play Reno.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1355 on: November 21, 2015, 12:54:01 AM »
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I don't get it. You don't have to play singleton just because you play Reno.

Then why run Reno? Perhaps I've misunderstood his ability.


I just tried to combine secret paladin with dragon paladin to incorporate Reno
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1356 on: November 21, 2015, 12:58:26 AM »
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There's no excuse not to run multiple power cards like Consecration. As long as at least one copy is drawn prior to Reno being played, you still get the benefit of Reno without using sub-optimal cards.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1357 on: November 21, 2015, 03:37:55 AM »
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You don't have to run singleton, but if you don't you have to remember exactly which cards you played because he doesn't glow.  Also it cuts into the consistency of the card further, as you don't have any control over whether he'll be able to activate when you draw him.

I wouldn't run singleton if I ran Reno, but if you run more than a few doubles, you'll probably never remember if he's activateable.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1358 on: November 21, 2015, 10:12:59 AM »
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Do people not card track?

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1359 on: November 21, 2015, 11:37:47 AM »
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Do people not card track?

I certainly don't, because really its an unfair advantage.  Beyond that, if I ever was fortunate enough to play in a tournament, I would be not allowed to use a tracker.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1360 on: November 21, 2015, 02:22:16 PM »
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I'm with the artist Dan Scott right now (artist of various Hearthstone cards) and he is selling Hearthstone cards. The cards he has available are Earth Elemental, Piloted Shredder, Murloc Tidehunter, Ram Wrangler, Old Murkeye, Clockwork Giant, Dalaran Aspirant, Stoneclaw Golem, and Shadowboxer. They are for sale at $2apiece plus shipping. Also a mounted, framed, and varnished Piloted Shredder available for $150. If anyone wants any cards, please let me know what and how many, thanks.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1361 on: November 21, 2015, 08:54:21 PM »
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Do people not card track?

I certainly don't, because really its an unfair advantage.  Beyond that, if I ever was fortunate enough to play in a tournament, I would be not allowed to use a tracker.

I didn't say anything about a tracker but if you can't remember if you played a copy of a card, this discussion is probably moot anyway.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1362 on: November 22, 2015, 12:14:15 AM »
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Do people not card track?

I certainly don't, because really its an unfair advantage.  Beyond that, if I ever was fortunate enough to play in a tournament, I would be not allowed to use a tracker.

I didn't say anything about a tracker but if you can't remember if you played a copy of a card, this discussion is probably moot anyway.

Oh, I misread you, my bad. I'd still say past a few duplicates it would be hard to keep track if your are playing many ladder or tournament games.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1363 on: November 22, 2015, 01:38:24 AM »
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I think it's pretty risky to have any duplicates in your deck at all. If you are playing Reno Jackson on turn 6, which is fairly likely against aggro, then you will have drawn 9 or 10 cards by the time you play him, barring any card draw abilities. To be generous, and to account for card draw, playing Reno later, and mulliganing for duplicates, let's say you've drawn half your deck by the time you play Reno. Well in the case that you have even a single duplicate in your deck, your chances of activating Reno are roughly 75% (down from 100% if you have no duplicates). Is that decrease in consistency worth putting a second Consecration in your deck for?

I think that if you are going to build a deck around Reno, you should go all the way and make it a cloneless deck, or if you do have clones, make sure there are just one or two, and that they are cards that you would already be mulliganing for (Zombie Chow, Mad Scientist, Minibot, etc.), to give you a higher chance of weeding them out before drawing Reno.

The other way to go with Reno is just to put him in a fatigue deck without worrying about how many clones you have. Your chances of playing him in the late game and gaining a lot of health will be very high if you plan on drawing out your entire deck. This seems much more viable to me than building a deck around him.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1364 on: November 22, 2015, 10:11:47 AM »
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right now my reno deck has a duplicate of duplicate......  ;D

I Don't mind running a double of a secret because of mad scientist.   
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1365 on: November 22, 2015, 10:16:16 AM »
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So... I thought I was about due to open another legendary, and I did today. But... It was Tinkmaster Overspark. I am sorely considering dusting him, as it will get me that much closer to crafting an actually useful legendary.
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« Reply #1366 on: November 22, 2015, 11:11:23 AM »
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So... I thought I was about due to open another legendary, and I did today. But... It was Tinkmaster Overspark. I am sorely considering dusting him, as it will get me that much closer to crafting an actually useful legendary.

I dusted mine not long after I opened him. He's completely unreliable.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1367 on: November 22, 2015, 07:31:47 PM »
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Brann plus Nep on turn 10 is pretty freaking legit
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1368 on: November 23, 2015, 04:52:56 PM »
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So, I built this Shaman deck that I really like. It simply destroys aggro, and can outlast other control decks with a decent draw. Call it... Totem Shaman? Not sure... Anyway, advice? I know I should probably craft a Lightning Storm or two, but I want to ask before I use dust.

2x Earth Shock
2x Rockbiter Weapon
1x Zombie Chow
1x Crackle
2x Lava Shock
1x Flametongue Totem
1x Loot Hoarder
2x Totem Golem
1x Elemental Destruction
2x Healing Wave
2x Hex
2x Tuskarr Totemic
1x Charged Hammer
1x Draenei Totemcarver
1x Earth Elemental
1x Sludge Belcher
2x Fire Elemental
1x Piloted Sky Golem
1x Dr Boom
1x Stormwind Champion
1x Troggzor the Earthinator
1x Frost Giant

Frost Giant is good because I end up using my hero power a lot. Not totally sure about Stormwind. Troggzor is a sweet turn ten drop after dropping Elemental destruction and then wiping the board, and he is pretty useful otherwise. After that, not entirely sure.

EDIT: Also, hoping to maybe ladder at some point with this.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1369 on: November 23, 2015, 07:51:46 PM »
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1 avenge
1 competitive Spirit
1 noble sacrifice
1 redemption for zombie chow
1 repentance
2 equality
2 argent protector
2 Farie dragon
2 mad scientist
2 shielded mini-bot
3 divine favor
3 blackwing technician
3 Alford peace keeper
3 muster for battle
4 consecration
4 true silver champion
4 twilight guardian
4 Murloc Knight
4 blessing of Kings
5 blackwing corrupter
5 dragon consort
6 emperor thaurissan
6 Reno Jackson
6 mysterious Challenger
7 chillmaw
8 lay on hands for antique heal bot I never want to play this for 8 mana
8 tirion
chromaggus for 3 cog hammer
9 nefarian
9 ysera

Just put this together, thoughts? I'm gonna run it on ladder


So with those 3 edits I've gone from 19 to 12 in 2 days just playing casually,   Honestly I think it could be made better just not sure what to try.  I have very much enjoyed playing this deck and find that I catch opponents off guard a lot.  I don't want to run any duplicates. This deck hasn't lost to handlock so far and has an estimated 70% win ratio against all types of aggro.  Control warrior tends to be a tough draw unless I can drop Reno Jackson after gorrmosh hits on a burst. 

Anythoughts would be appreciated.



@minion do you like the new shaman weapon? I'd consider dropping it for another sludge or antique heal bot if you go heal bot one or both of the healing waves can easily be replaced with something to help your board. Possibly emperor and sylvanas?
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« Reply #1370 on: November 24, 2015, 08:32:59 AM »
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EDIT: Also, hoping to maybe ladder at some point with this.



Seriously though, unless you've already made significant ladder progress, there's no reason to avoid trying new decks on ladder.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1371 on: November 24, 2015, 09:21:44 AM »
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@jbeers, I DO like the new Shaman weapon, since if the game goes long and gets into a topdeck war, then I can be shooting damage with my hero power instead of summoning totems. Quite useful. But, I see your point about adding something else.... I don't have Sylvanas, though, but I wish I did.

@Lambo, lol. I DID actually try a little bit, yesterday. Carried me from 18 to 15, and then lost a couple games up to 16.
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« Reply #1372 on: November 25, 2015, 05:37:09 PM »
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Well. Got the pack to replace the one I got Tinkmaster in. My free pack from winning Tavern Brawl today gave me a Gladiator's Crossbow (my first copy) a Ravenholdt Assassin (my second copy) and a golden Ragnaros. Probably my favorite single pack that I have gotten.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1373 on: November 28, 2015, 09:15:53 AM »
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So, I need to decide what adventure wing to open next. I could open the first wing of League of Explorers so that I have those cards, or, open wing three of Blackrock, which has nothing that will help me immediately but will bring me closer to doing a dragon deck in the future, which I would really like to try. So, what should I do?
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« Reply #1374 on: November 28, 2015, 08:39:54 PM »
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So, I need to decide what adventure wing to open next. I could open the first wing of League of Explorers so that I have those cards, or, open wing three of Blackrock, which has nothing that will help me immediately but will bring me closer to doing a dragon deck in the future, which I would really like to try. So, what should I do?
Well, since it sounds like your long-term goal is a dragon deck, I would recommend Blackrock Mountain, especially if you plan on doing dragons in Priest. You get Thaurissan and Resurrect from the first wing, which are nice while you are waiting on the dragons.

But I wouldn't start on the adventures until you have enough dust capital to get all the non-adventure cards you need to make the deck you want. Just keep getting packs until then, and then you can start spending your gold on the adventures. :2cents:
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