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Quote from: jbeers285 on April 10, 2015, 02:08:26 AM

Majordomo is a terrible 9 cost legendary :-(

I'm not so sure this is true yet. The two big issues are that he's slow, and 8 health isn't really a whole lot. That said, you're getting a big body on the board, and when it does die, you get 8 random damage for 2 mana. That's nothing to sneeze at. I don't know if he has a place in Control Warrior or Handlock yet, but I won't go so far as to call him terrible.

No he's pretty terrible. 8 health is enough for almost any deck to kill you, even ones that don't traditionally have large burst.  A big body on board isn't good enough, especially when its an understated big body on board.  A 9/7 for 9 is plain bad, and its even worse because its death rattle is a detriment the majority of the time.  And 8 damage to a random target for 2 mana is good for a hero ability, but the random aspect of it hurts it a lot.  Its nowhere near as good as jaraxxus ability.  Jaraxxus replaces you immediately, has more health, usually heals you instead of hurting you, has a better hero ability and a very good weapon.  Handlock would never replace Jaraxxus with Majordomo. Additionally Majordomo goes as far as to shred all your armor too which makes him unplayable in CW.  The only place where he might be remotely playable is Mage with ice blocks, but even then he's still too slow, hurts you too much and is plain not really impactful.

Majordomo Executus is a plain terrible card, and no serious competitive deck will be running him.

Majordomo Executus is a plain terrible card, and no serious competitive deck will be running him.

Ohhh how this board said the same things about Webspinner and Muster...

Now.... if they ever add an inverse mind control (Give an opponent a minion).... Majordomo could be one of the best finishers in the game!

Majordormo is okay with Thaurissan, but it's bad.  Like, it can just be BGH'd and then you only need 8 attack and you have 7 mana to deal lethal.

Although the Ragnaros metamorphosis consumes your armor, you are still able to gain armor afterwards (ala Shield Block, Shieldmaden, and Armorsmith), meaning that Majordomo can still be okay in control warrior.

Also, Mage is able to protect the Firelord with Ice Barrier and Ice Block, and those are cards that you can play before booting your hero, so Majordomo may be even better in Mage.

No Ragnaros will still not be ok in Control Warrior.  You still have to play those cards and it is far to risky to play and really doesn't gain you that much.  Setting yourself at 8 health and shredding your armor is really, really not worth it just for the ability to do 8 random damage a turn.  Rag's hero ability really isn't that good considering how much you have to give up for it.

Its not worth it in mage either.  Its still more risky than its worth.

By all means, go ahead, try to make him work, but I guarantee you that serious competitive decks will not end up using Majordomo.  He's just not worth it.

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I started watching about 2 seconds after this happened. Poor guy went on such tilt that he conceded the next turn and then took a break to "use the bathroom"

"Anybody who has played Priest 20 times can see that lethal..."
-Gaara

"Mistakes were Made"

Quote from: Westy on April 12, 2015, 05:30:32 PM

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I started watching about 2 seconds after this happened. Poor guy went on such tilt that he conceded the next turn and then took a break to "use the bathroom"

"Anybody who has played Priest 20 times can see that lethal..."
-Gaara

"Mistakes were Made"

Did the Deathlord have Velen's Chosen or something? Otherwise I'm not seeing where the 5th damage came from on the Circle of Healing.

Yes, it did.  It'd have been a lot more apparent (Gaara shouting OOOOOH ZE SPELL POWER! ZE SPELL POWER! ON THE DEATHLORD! NOBODY SAW IT) if I showed the youtube video but there are a lot of omgs in it.  If you like, you can look it up pretty easily.

I am preparing for the release of wing 3, after which I will be building a Paladin Dragon deck, because of the delicious Dragon Consort. I know that not all of the cards listed below are released yet, but I would like to get people's opinions on this deck.

1 Zombie Chow x 2
2 Equality x 1
2 Ironbeak Owl × 1
2 Shielded Minibot × 2
3 Muster for Battle × 1
3 Aldor Peacekeeper × 2
3 Big Game Hunter × 1
3 Blackwing Technician × 2
4 Truesilver Champion × 2
4 Consecration × 2
4 Twilight Drake × 2
5 Solemn Vigil × 1
5 Azure Drake × 1
5 Blackwing Corruptor × 2
5 Dragon Consort × 2
6 Emperor Thaurissan × 1
6 Sylvanas Windrunner × 1
6 Volcanic Drake × 1
8 Chromaggus × 1
8 Tirion Fordring × 1
9 Ysera x 1

I'm thinking of dropping Muster. Originally the idea was for this deck to use Musters, Jugglers, and double Volcanic Drake and Solemn Vigil, but I decided there were more important things to put in and most of that had to go to make room.

I imagine dragon paladin will be pretty good. We'll see when all the cards are released.

Also, Hearthstone is now on android / apple phones! It works quite well, but your battery mileage may vary.

I imagine dragon paladin will be pretty good. We'll see when all the cards are released.

Also, Hearthstone is now on android / apple phones! It works quite well, but your battery mileage may vary.

Yeah when do we get pretty animated Redemption on PC/Android??

I'm a professional animator and I want to see this happen. Let me know if I can help whoever here has authority or takes initiative.

So wing 4 is out. The Nefarian fight is hilarious. I don't want to spoil it, but you get some help and it's kind of awesome.

My Mana Wyrm was MVP in the Chromaggus fight cuz of all the 1-mana spells he gives you. (I played mech mage against him)

Re: The Video - I love that they do those things (the Cairne thing with Garrosh is another example). I actually played a deck with Ragnaros against Nefarian yesterday but wasn't able to play him, I'm wondering if there's some conversation there, too, haha. I'm gonna try and get him out today to see.