Author Topic: Hearthstone (Read 216262 times)

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #450 on:** December 01, 2014, 04:08:57 PM »

Haunted Creeper, Owl, Kodo, and Tiger are all viable options for Druid. I think it's possible that we have multiple identifiers on cards soon though, making the mech bears both mechs and beasts. I also think Druid of the Claw might be beast after this set is released.

browarod · « **Reply #451 on:** December 01, 2014, 04:28:27 PM »

Dreamy if you get it early, kinda awful if you get it late.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #452 on:** December 01, 2014, 05:50:14 PM »

Well, if you see a Paladin mulligan their entire hand, you know what they're looking for.

browarod · « **Reply #453 on:** December 01, 2014, 06:32:09 PM »

I'm wondering whether it changes the actual Attack of the card or just the current value. I.e.: If my opponent plays a 7/7 Bolvar can I silence him to make him a 1/7 again? If he can be silenced then he'll be a lot less useful.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #454 on:** December 01, 2014, 06:40:27 PM »

He should be silence-able.

That said, this card is absurdly strong. Paladin already has enough silence targets, and at 5 mana, this thing will give a much needed boost to the class. We may even see a Mid-Range paladin deck arise. It's at least okay in any deck though.

TheMarti · « **Reply #455 on:** December 01, 2014, 10:59:17 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on December 01, 2014, 11:02:39 AM

Quote from: The Marti on December 01, 2014, 10:54:52 AM
That Lil Exorcist - another fun card to throw into the Deathrattle gimmick decks! lol

It only looks at enemy deathrattle minions, not your own.

... That's what I get for trying to say something too early in the morning. Derp.

Drrek · « **Reply #456 on:** December 02, 2014, 12:17:44 AM »

Quote from: Westy on December 01, 2014, 06:40:27 PM

He should be silence-able.

That said, this card is absurdly strong. Paladin already has enough silence targets, and at 5 mana, this thing will give a much needed boost to the class. We may even see a Mid-Range paladin deck arise. It's at least okay in any deck though.

He is not absurdly strong. Honestly he looks pretty bad. You basically need him in your opening hand for him to be worth it, and you almost NEVER want a 5 drop in your opening hand. And even if he is in your opening hand, unless you are playing aggro pally (which he doesn't really fit for anyway, because they will still have their strong removal since none of your cards are really gonna be worth that hex), you are going to be looking at something like a 4/7 on turn 5. You know, like Fuegen, who has un-silenceable stats that are generally going to be just as good as that card you've been holding onto for 5 turns.

Add into his shortcomings in the early and mid game, he's absolutely awful as a lategame top deck, and I can't really see this card being good unless there is some crazy synergy cards in GvG.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #457 on:** December 02, 2014, 02:24:16 AM »

Have him in hand, leper gnome on turn 1, Silver Hand Recruit on turn 2, play Muster for Battle on turn 3, whatever on turn 4.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #458 on:** December 02, 2014, 03:30:48 AM »

Quote from: Drrek on December 02, 2014, 12:17:44 AM

He is not absurdly strong. Honestly he looks pretty bad. You basically need him in your opening hand for him to be worth it, and you almost NEVER want a 5 drop in your opening hand. And even if he is in your opening hand, unless you are playing aggro pally (which he doesn't really fit for anyway, because they will still have their strong removal since none of your cards are really gonna be worth that hex), you are going to be looking at something like a 4/7 on turn 5. You know, like Fuegen, who has un-silenceable stats that are generally going to be just as good as that card you've been holding onto for 5 turns.

Add into his shortcomings in the early and mid game, he's absolutely awful as a lategame top deck, and I can't really see this card being good unless there is some crazy synergy cards in GvG.

Any silence they use on him is another opening for Tirion/Ysera/Kelthuzad/Syvanas/Cairne/whatever other legendaries you might put in Pally.

I really don't think you want to drop him Turn 5 though (unless your using aggro Paladin, or he's your best option for whatever reason). When you draw him, you draw him, hold onto it for awhile, and then when it hits the field your opponent has to deal with it. Paladins are generally in it for the long haul anyway, and his 5 mana allows you to play something like Consecration to clear the way, or Holy Light to get out of range, or Sludge Belcher to protect him, or Loatheb to make him waste an entire turn playing Polymorph/Hex, etc.

Drawing him midgame is perfect I think. Maybe about 20 cards left in deck, when you've accumulated cards in hand to the point that you're finally ready to play what you have. Eventually, he's going to be 8/7 and a pretty powerful 5 drop. Then your opponent will silence him, you'll Tirion, and win. Or they don't have the silence, either because they already played it on Shade/Belcher/Legendaries, and you win.

Or you just don't get to play him because Paladin is bad and can't stand up to Face Hunter/Zoo/Mechs, but we'll see how the metagame changes with GVG

Absurdly strong was going too far though. Being another silence target is not a great point, but I don't feel he's as bad as some people are saying.

EDIT #3: The more I think about it, the more I don't like this card.

Picture is unrelated

browarod · « **Reply #459 on:** December 02, 2014, 09:52:30 AM »

The top option should have a split for Ranked versus Casual. I face almost exclusively priests and paladins in Casual (mostly priests).

Yeah I'm really not a fan of Bolvar either. He's such a meh card.

browarod · « **Reply #460 on:** December 02, 2014, 01:33:19 PM »

So they added additional images to the Facebook album and I was going to post them here until I realized they added 36 new cards. THIRTY-SIX!

You can see the album here.

All I can say at this point: HOORAY FOR NEW CARDS!!!!! ........*cough*........

There are so many decks I want to try with the new cards. Mechs, pirates, murloc shaman, maybe a spell damage mage....

EDIT: And they keep adding more cards.

Redoubter · « **Reply #461 on:** December 02, 2014, 04:43:11 PM »

In case anyone missed the interesting balances coming...

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During the development of Goblins vs Gnomes, we kept an eye on the state of game balance as more Hearthstone matches were played with the new cards we introduced with Curse of Naxxramas. After careful consideration we have decided to make balance changes to the following cards: Soulfire (Warlock), Gadgetzan Auctioneer (Neutral), and Flare (Hunter)

The following balance changes will be made in an upcoming patch:

Soulfire now costs 1 (up from 0)
Soulfire, along with fast and powerful minions, allowed Warlock rush decks to get ahead on the board and stay ahead. We’ve upped Soulfire’s mana cost by 1 to slow down the Warlock rush deck just a bit and allow more players time to react and interact against the Warlock.

Gadgetzan Auctioneer now costs 6 (up from 5)
Gadgetzan Auctioneer’s ability allows for a player to potentially draw many cards for little cost. Card draw and card advantage are important to the game—overall, games are less interesting when a player draws their entire deck. This change brings Gadgetzan Auctioneer’s cost more in line with its power level.

Flare now costs 2 (up from 1)
Flare allowed the Hunter an advantage versus decks that revolve around Secrets, while also allowing the Hunter to draw a card for little cost. We want to encourage a variety of decks in Hearthstone. With this change, Flare will continue to be useful against decks playing Secrets, but will be weaker against other decks.

Drrek · « **Reply #462 on:** December 02, 2014, 05:05:25 PM »

I'll comment on all the cards at a later point when I have more time, but I'm just going to say right now that that warrior legendary can go die in a fire. How in the world did that get past testing? A 6 mana (albeit delayed) pyroblast that leaves behind a 6/5 body, how could you think that is balanced? Even if they never draw into that pyroblast, it still give a body that is only under-stated by 1 point. How could a single point, be worth a delayed pyroblast? I mean, I'll put it in my control warrior, but I'm plain not happy that card exists.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #463 on:** December 03, 2014, 10:56:11 AM »

All of these cards look extremely fun.

I do agree that Iron Juggernaut needs to be nerfed though.

LukeChips · « **Reply #464 on:** December 03, 2014, 11:39:38 AM »

Is this a video game or a card game?

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #465 on:** December 03, 2014, 11:41:07 AM »

Quote from: LukeChips on December 03, 2014, 11:39:38 AM

Is this a video game or a card game?

Yes.

LukeChips · « **Reply #466 on:** December 03, 2014, 11:46:20 AM »

So a video game, right? Because people were posting about cards too.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #467 on:** December 03, 2014, 11:52:35 AM »

Quote from: LukeChips on December 03, 2014, 11:46:20 AM

So a video game, right? Because people were posting about cards too.

Its an online card game, played on the computer. So it is both.

LukeChips · « **Reply #468 on:** December 03, 2014, 01:17:34 PM »

That's confusing!

browarod · « **Reply #469 on:** December 03, 2014, 03:12:24 PM »

Not really. A lot of games are going digital lately because it's more convenient for all involved (and in some cases cheaper for the players). Magic the Gathering has had an online version for several years now. There are also several other digital card games that have come out in recent years as well, in fact I think there's a D&D-themed one.

LukeChips · « **Reply #470 on:** December 04, 2014, 10:39:28 AM »

Wow, is redemption in the 21st century?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #471 on:** December 04, 2014, 01:00:20 PM »

idk if this has been posted yet, but GVG has been confirmed to be released on the 8th.

I have about 800 gold saved up and 2.2k dust. No lifeing arena as soon as school is over and we'll see how I do. Arena will be a bloodbath.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #472 on:** December 04, 2014, 01:07:15 PM »

I'm saving my gold for packs instead of arena.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #473 on:** December 04, 2014, 01:17:39 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on December 04, 2014, 01:07:15 PM

I'm saving my gold for packs instead of arena.

If you can average 50 gold in arena, you're getting your gold's worth (just not your time's worth). I'm fairly confident I can do that (likely a lot of 3-4 wins, a few 5-9 wins, and a 1-2 win or two). Simultaneously, I'll be learning the new cards and getting better at Arena for later on, and getting other rewards such as dust, cards, and more gold.

browarod · « **Reply #474 on:** December 04, 2014, 01:36:16 PM »

I'm saving my gold to buy some packs off the bat and perhaps some arena runs as well, not really sure at this point.

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Author Topic: Hearthstone (Read 216262 times)

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