Author Topic: Hearthstone (Read 220244 times)

browarod · « **Reply #275 on:** August 25, 2014, 02:15:52 PM »

So I pulled a Nozdormu from a pack today. Is he ever actually useful? Would I miss him if I DE'd him? He'd give me enough dust to make all the remaining cards I need for the Warlock deck I'm trying to build (for dailies, etc.).

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #276 on:** August 25, 2014, 02:44:44 PM »

Quote from: browarod on August 25, 2014, 02:15:52 PM

So I pulled a Nozdormu from a pack today. Is he ever actually useful? Would I miss him if I DE'd him? He'd give me enough dust to make all the remaining cards I need for the Warlock deck I'm trying to build (for dailies, etc.).

I have one as well. If they reduced his cost to 8, I would probably play him. 9 is just too much.

I held on to mine because he can be amusing in low ranks.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #277 on:** August 25, 2014, 05:12:02 PM »

Ugh, the Paladin challenge is stupidly hard, because this deck you're given is terrible.

Drrek · « **Reply #278 on:** August 25, 2014, 06:43:49 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 25, 2014, 05:12:02 PM

Ugh, the Paladin challenge is stupidly hard, because this deck you're given is terrible.

I beat it on the first try and after hearing people lament how hard it was, I tried it again and and won again. So since I guess I'm RNG blessed, what is hard about the challenge?

browarod · « **Reply #279 on:** August 25, 2014, 06:55:30 PM »

If you get Oozes but no buffs then you can't win, if you get buffs without oozes you can maybe pull out a win. The deck is just super mediocre and very inclined to bad draws.

Master KChief · « **Reply #280 on:** August 25, 2014, 08:11:06 PM »

Read any of the hundreds of posts on battle.net to figure out why the Pally challenge is completely asinine.

Also, DE that Nozdormu. One of the worst Legendaries in the game.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #281 on:** August 25, 2014, 09:01:13 PM »

I've been trying to decide whether to DE my Malygos or not. Maybe Deathwing too, but he's fun to tinker with.

Lawfuldog · « **Reply #282 on:** August 25, 2014, 09:46:38 PM »

Quote from: Westy on August 25, 2014, 09:01:13 PM

I've been trying to decide whether to DE my Malygos or not. Maybe Deathwing too, but he's fun to tinker with.

I'd keep both. Malygos makes for a solid Rogue deck (with prep + spell, and Sinister Strike). Deathwing is also seeing a bit of play in low-curve control decks (i.e. Shaman, and some versions of Warrior).

Drrek · « **Reply #283 on:** August 25, 2014, 10:08:33 PM »

Quote from: Lawfuldog on August 25, 2014, 09:46:38 PM

Quote from: Westy on August 25, 2014, 09:01:13 PM
I've been trying to decide whether to DE my Malygos or not. Maybe Deathwing too, but he's fun to tinker with.

I'd keep both. Malygos makes for a solid Rogue deck (with prep + spell, and Sinister Strike). Deathwing is also seeing a bit of play in low-curve control decks (i.e. Shaman, and some versions of Warrior).

No, don't save Malygos, he's pretty much trash.

Deathwing fits in very few decks, (and the only deck I've ever seen him played in was a control warrior, a deck that's almost definitely too expensive for you to construct) so I'd probably dust him too.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #284 on:** August 25, 2014, 10:45:07 PM »

I abandoned Warrior long ago. I've been using it in a Watcher Druid deck for funzies.

TheMarti · « **Reply #285 on:** August 25, 2014, 11:07:15 PM »

I've seen Maly work pretty well in some decks, but if you aren't going to use him in any of your current plans, then I suggest you D/E him. I'm a firm believer that you can make almost anything work if you've got skill and patience to mess around and try stuff

Master KChief · « **Reply #286 on:** August 26, 2014, 09:07:30 AM »

Malygos used to be in the first versions of Rogue. Personally I would not trash him just in case he makes a comeback. Everyone was DE'ing their Ysera's because they were deemed worthless and didn't fit in a deck awhile back...and look what happened, now they're used in Control Warrior.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #287 on:** August 26, 2014, 01:04:45 PM »

Quote from: The Marti on August 25, 2014, 11:07:15 PM

I've seen Maly work pretty well in some decks...

Most of Maly's decks work well, he's a multi-national champion for a reason.

Badum tss.

browarod · « **Reply #288 on:** August 27, 2014, 07:40:03 PM »

Posting my last Arena deck because I actually thought it was a decent draft but I ended up going 2-3. 2 of my loses were to mages, the other to a druid. Beat a third mage and another shaman. Where did I go wrong?

Sorry for the hugeness, forgot to downsize it before uploading.

Drrek · « **Reply #289 on:** August 27, 2014, 08:43:13 PM »

Goldshire Footman, Ancient Watcher, novice engineer, frostwolf grunt, dalaran mage, ironforge rifleman, and ogre magi are all sub-par cards that you should avoid having in your deck. Not that I'm saying you deck will ever end up without sub-par cards, but that's a significant portion of the deck. I'd really only use 1 bloodlust unless you had a really crap pick to choose from for the second one, because its a card with a high potential to be dead in your hand for a long time. It can win you games, but your really don't want to be sitting with two and nothing to play them with. Most of the other cards are at least decent. The fire elemental, doomhammer, faceless, argent commanders and lightning storm are all great. All in all, I'd say its an average type deck, and either you made some play mistakes, or had some bad luck in your matchups.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #290 on:** August 27, 2014, 08:53:49 PM »

http://www.liquidhearth.com/guides/arena-tier-list

There was one time when I actually used Ancient Watcher. I had the new Silence-All-Your-Minions guy, an Ironbeak Owl, and a couple Mark of the Wilds. It worked okay.

Drrek · « **Reply #291 on:** August 27, 2014, 09:00:15 PM »

Quote from: Westy on August 27, 2014, 08:53:49 PM

http://www.liquidhearth.com/guides/arena-tier-list

There was one time when I actually used Ancient Watcher. I had the new Silence-All-Your-Minions guy, an Ironbeak Owl, and a couple Mark of the Wilds. It worked okay.

I mean yeah, if your late in your draft, you already have multiple ways to activate him, and the other picks are unspectacular he's alright to pick.

That's a lot of ifs though.

browarod · « **Reply #292 on:** August 27, 2014, 11:39:33 PM »

Quote from: Westy on August 27, 2014, 08:53:49 PM

http://www.liquidhearth.com/guides/arena-tier-list

That's actually super helpful, thanks!

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #293 on:** August 28, 2014, 12:29:28 AM »

I hate it when I have a sick draft (3 Fire Elementals, 3 Unbound Elementals w/ Feral Spirit, Lightning Storm, etc.) and then my computer freezes and I lose a game I was probably going to win. I've come to accept losing at least 1 game to bad luck and 1 game to a great opponent each draft, but game freezes are horrible.

Master KChief · « **Reply #294 on:** August 28, 2014, 01:12:39 AM »

Quote from: browarod on August 27, 2014, 11:39:33 PM

Quote from: Westy on August 27, 2014, 08:53:49 PM
http://www.liquidhearth.com/guides/arena-tier-list
That's actually super helpful, thanks!

I would give Trump's tier lists a once over, as he gives good explanations of most of the cards and is a relatively good read, but a lot of his material is outdated and some of the tier's even contain errors contradictory to his descriptions. It also contains no Naxx cards. If you want an easy to read spreadsheet that is updated fairly quick, consult AntiGrav1ty's list.

As for your deck, agree with most of Drrek's assertions except for Ogre Magi. Ogre Magi is a fine drop on 4, as it has decent stats and the spellpower is great in decks with tons of quality spells (Mage and Shaman most notably). It has even more value in Shaman as Shaman lacks very few if any value drops at 4, so the Magi can be a great pick to round out your curve. And yeah, never pick 2 Bloodlusts. It's a great way to steal wins out of nowhere, but its still a card that has the prerequisite of needing a fairly stacked board presence and also does very little to nothing when you are behind. Having 2 stuck in hand can be extremely awkward.

Drrek · « **Reply #295 on:** August 28, 2014, 07:13:45 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on August 28, 2014, 01:12:39 AM

Quote from: browarod on August 27, 2014, 11:39:33 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 27, 2014, 08:53:49 PM
http://www.liquidhearth.com/guides/arena-tier-list
That's actually super helpful, thanks!

I would give Trump's tier lists a once over, as he gives good explanations of most of the cards and is a relatively good read, but a lot of his material is outdated and some of the tier's even contain errors contradictory to his descriptions. It also contains no Naxx cards. If you want an easy to read spreadsheet that is updated fairly quick, consult AntiGrav1ty's list.

As for your deck, agree with most of Drrek's assertions except for Ogre Magi. Ogre Magi is a fine drop on 4, as it has decent stats and the spellpower is great in decks with tons of quality spells (Mage and Shaman most notably). It has even more value in Shaman as Shaman lacks very few if any value drops at 4, so the Magi can be a great pick to round out your curve. And yeah, never pick 2 Bloodlusts. It's a great way to steal wins out of nowhere, but its still a card that has the prerequisite of needing a fairly stacked board presence and also does very little to nothing when you are behind. Having 2 stuck in hand can be extremely awkward.

I dunno, maybe because its because I play a lot of paladin where the 4 slot is stacked and you have to ration out your 4 picks, but I am never happy taking an Ogre Magi. Even in mage, your 4s should be fireballs and polymorphs, ogre magi's not gonna help you all that much.

Master KChief · « **Reply #296 on:** August 28, 2014, 10:55:19 AM »

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its the best pick over the plethora of other great 4 drops. But it's not as bad as some people portray and I would never feel I drafted poorly for picking it. 4/4 is respectable stats on a 4 drop, and the spellpower is a bonus in Mage and especially Shaman. I also tend to deviate from Ogre occasionally as well when drafting, but there are certainly worse 4 drops compared to him. It's average at worst in my book. 8 is the overall base stat line for a 4 drop, so he is pretty average with the distribution of his stats by definition. The spellpower just happens to be gravy. As evaluated in brow's Shaman, it appeared to be a decent pick to help smooth his curve.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #297 on:** August 29, 2014, 01:50:32 AM »

Quote from: Westy on August 25, 2014, 10:45:07 PM

I abandoned Warrior long ago.

And I just pulled a Grommash. I'm still a long way from control Warrior (still need Cairne, Ragnaros, Ysera, and Sylvanas), but right now I have enough dust to craft 1 legendary. I just hit 1000 wins, so I have plenty of arena runs ahead of me, and hopefully I can hit one of these in a pack.

Current non-Naxx Legendaries: Malygos, Deathwing, Alexstraza, The Black Knight, Leeroy, Grommash, and Tirion. I'd really like to build control Paladin and maybe control Warrior, but I need some Shield Slams and Gorehowls still.

Feels good to be able to build good decks. Started with Shockadin as a cheap deck, moved up to Face Hunter, which turned into Midrange Hunter, then Frost Mage, Aggro Rogue, Naxx Hunter, and just got the final touches for my Zoo. I love this game.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #298 on:** August 29, 2014, 09:44:37 AM »

Quote from: Westy on August 29, 2014, 01:50:32 AM

Current non-Naxx Legendaries: Malygos, Deathwing, Alexstraza, The Black Knight, Leeroy, Grommash, and Tirion.

No Ragnaros? I'd craft him next.

TheMarti · « **Reply #299 on:** August 29, 2014, 12:29:35 PM »

I'm with Lambo on that one - Raggy can fit into a lot of decks.

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