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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #950 on: May 19, 2015, 12:03:48 PM »
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Any suggestion for replacing Black Knight? He's on my list to craft next but I'm still trying to save up dust.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #951 on: May 19, 2015, 12:30:23 PM »
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Grats on the return to legend!

I've been running this deck for a couple days now, carried me from rank 15 to 7 so far:



Changes I've made along the way: Nefarian out for Ragnaros, Deathlord out for Sylvanas.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #952 on: May 19, 2015, 01:11:01 PM »
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Any suggestion for replacing Black Knight? He's on my list to craft next but I'm still trying to save up dust.

Something to silence a minion with taunt, poly morph, or Harrison Jones maybe?
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #953 on: May 19, 2015, 09:56:14 PM »
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Yeah, pretty much anything to get around taunt. Spellbreaker or Owl would work okay, but they really don't provide the tempo swing that BK brings, but they do deal with Belcher a bit better.  I don't really like the idea of a second polymorph.  Spells in general can clog your hand if you're not careful. 

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #954 on: May 19, 2015, 11:12:04 PM »
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How many people include Dr. Boom as their only BGH target? When I include exactly 1 BGH target, I find that 75+% of the time, it gets BGH'd, because nearly everyone runs BGH, and by the time I have enough mana to play Dr. Boom, my opponent is quite likely to have drawn BGH.

My policy is either to run both Boom and Rag (and sometimes more), or to run none of these and instead strand my opponent's BGH's. I mean, Boom is good, but not if he is just a 7 mana "summon two boom bots if your opponent plays a 3 mana 4/2," unless I am also indirectly protecting my Ragnaros from BGH if that happens.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #955 on: May 20, 2015, 12:19:24 AM »
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BGH isn't played in Zoo, Hunter, or Grim Patron, which are some of the biggest decks in the game right now.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #956 on: May 20, 2015, 12:27:10 AM »
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There's also the case they run BGH but don't have it when you drop Boom. The reward far outweighs the risk in my opinion, even if it is your only BGH target. Boom is just too good on turn seven (or even six with coining Thaurissan on five).
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #957 on: May 20, 2015, 01:12:01 PM »
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Why can't I get over 13 with this deck

1 blessing of wisdom x2
1 zombie chow x2
2 annoy-o-tron x2
2 argent Protector x2
2 iron beak owl
2 shielded mini bot x2
3 cog hammer
3 aldor peacekeeper x2
3 ogre brute x2
4 truesilver champion x2
4 consecration x2
5 antique heal bot
5 dragon consort x2
5 Harrison jones
5 sludge belcher x2
6 the black knight
8 chromaggus
8 tirion Fordring
9 yersa

Btw 0 BGH targets here :-)
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #958 on: May 20, 2015, 01:22:34 PM »
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Blessing of Wisdom is really bad. Blackwing Corruptor is one of the best dragon oriented cards and should be in here.  Equalities are waaay better than Annoyotron.  Ogre Brute is pretty unreliable.  Piloted Shredder is much better.

Those would be the changes I would make.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #959 on: May 20, 2015, 01:32:14 PM »
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Blessing of Wisdom is really bad. Blackwing Corruptor is one of the best dragon oriented cards and should be in here.  Equalities are waaay better than Annoyotron.  Ogre Brute is pretty unreliable.  Piloted Shredder is much better.

Those would be the changes I would make.

I think blessing of wisdom is pretty underrated, and certainly not "really bad," but I'd probably still not run it.  2 owls is too many. Ogre Brute isn't very good, the three slot should be muster and aldor.  Argent protector has been able to stay in any deck I've put him in, nor has annoy-o-tron in any non-mech deck.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #960 on: May 20, 2015, 01:51:24 PM »
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Blessing of Wisdom is really bad. Blackwing Corruptor is one of the best dragon oriented cards and should be in here.  Equalities are waaay better than Annoyotron.  Ogre Brute is pretty unreliable.  Piloted Shredder is much better.

Those would be the changes I would make.

Only 4 dragons is enough for corrupter?

It's only one owl.  Annoy-o-tron and and brute are gone.

Maybe 1 blessing goes for 1 corrupter?
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #961 on: May 20, 2015, 02:35:13 PM »
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Half of that deck costs over 4 mana. Typical face hunters for example, have almost nothing that costs above 3.

I predict you're getting rushed down and end up unable to re-take control of the game. Is this what happens in your losses?

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #962 on: May 20, 2015, 02:47:50 PM »
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Half of that deck costs over 4 mana. Typical face hunters for example, have almost nothing that costs above 3.

I predict you're getting rushed down and end up unable to re-take control of the game. Is this what happens in your losses?

It's 1/3 over 4 but yes which is why I had added in annoy-o-trons and argent protestors.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #963 on: May 20, 2015, 02:51:41 PM »
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Sorry, i meant to say four or above.

Slow decks like this are really tough to use in this meta. Some of the most common decks you'll face are face hunters, tempo mages, mech mages, zoo warlocks. All of these rush for early control of the game, and if you can't keep up, you get run over. Until slow decks are given better tools to handle them, you basically have to play that style, or something like the priest deck I posted above. With cards like shadow madness and cabal shadow priest, I can create massive tempo swings in my favor right as they begin to run out of steam.

Paladin is in a really tough spot right now.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #964 on: May 23, 2015, 07:47:23 PM »
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So. Played today, and both Piloted Shredders (in one game) gave me Ancient Watchers, and I had no cards that gave them taunt or would silence them. I lost.

On a side note, I now have played arena a number of times with varying success and gotten quite a few boosters. Now, should I start going for solo adventures? Cards from the first two wings of Naxx would be nice. And remember, I am playing the cheapskate way. No real money.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #965 on: May 23, 2015, 08:47:23 PM »
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Oh, and what legendary should I craft first? It is a long time in my future, but I like to plan. It seems that Ragnaros or Dr. Boom are the best, but maybe I am wrong.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #966 on: May 24, 2015, 12:28:38 AM »
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My recommended legendary crafting order would be as follows:

1. Dr. Boom - Insanely overpowered and used in almost every deck
2. Sylvanas - Extremely efficient control card
3. Ragnaros - A very powerful card that always does something immediately
4. The Black Knight - A lot of people run Sludge Belcher, or at least some kind of taunt, and this is a great counter
5. Ysera - Tough to kill and gets you card advantage
6. Harrison Jones - Can thwart Warriors, Rogues, Paladins, Hunters, Shamans, and Warlocks (with Jaraxxus), all without losing you any steam (and sometimes gaining you some
7. Sneed's Old Shredder - Very slow, but has the best Deathrattle summon in the game

Of course, this is very dependent on what kind of decks you want to play, and if you have a particular class that you play most often, then after 2 or 3 of the above you could definitely go for one of the excellent class legendaries (Like Tirion, Grommash, Jaraxxus, Antonidas, Vol'Jin, Neptulon, or Cenarius).

For the most part, I agree with this list, which explains each legendary's power pretty well.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #967 on: May 27, 2015, 12:45:22 PM »
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Good advice! Thank you, I shall take it into account when I actually have enough arcane dust!

So, I am feeling the deprivation of no sludge belcher and the like. However, is it more worth my while to spend gold on packs, so that I can get more dust (and some other legendaries, hopefully) and thus obtain cards such as Dr. Boom, who cannot come from adventures?
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #968 on: May 27, 2015, 01:15:19 PM »
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Just had my first 12-win arena (12-2):

http://i.imgur.com/9NiKCnK.jpg

*edit* linked the image instead of embedding, my monitor resolution is too big for this forum.

The final game ended with fireball, face with crocolisk, fireblast, and a perfect topdecked fireball.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2015, 01:20:30 PM by Lamborghini_diablo »

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #969 on: May 27, 2015, 02:15:33 PM »
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Just had my first 12-win arena (12-2):

http://i.imgur.com/9NiKCnK.jpg

*edit* linked the image instead of embedding, my monitor resolution is too big for this forum.

The final game ended with fireball, face with crocolisk, fireblast, and a perfect topdecked fireball.

I watched it, because I was interested to see what deck you had that had so many wins. It was pretty awesome.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #970 on: May 27, 2015, 09:07:01 PM »
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Does anyone have some thoughts on Toshley? I recently picked him up in a pack and I'm debating on whether or not to dust him for a epic I could use... (BGH, Lightbomb #2, Enhance-o_Mechano, Doomsayer ect...)
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #971 on: May 27, 2015, 09:15:21 PM »
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I used to run Toshley and Gazlowe (I think is his name) in a spell-mech-Mage deck but found it was too slow compared to regular mech mage. :2cents:

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #972 on: May 27, 2015, 11:39:19 PM »
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Toshley is very good, and definitely NOT worth disenchanting. I can almost guarantee you will regret it if you do.

And Lambo, that deck is very interesting - incredibly heavy on 4's, but they are good enough to justify it.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #973 on: May 28, 2015, 09:36:40 AM »
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I've stopped dusting any legendaries, unless they are absolute garbage.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #974 on: May 28, 2015, 10:14:31 AM »
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The last legendary I dusted was a golden Tirion because I already had a regular version. I don't really dust anything anymore since at this point I'm trying to finish my collection and getting rid of things doesn't help that, haha.

Oh, I dusted an Antonidas at the same time as a Tirion, again because I already had a copy of Antonidas.

 


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