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The mage one is really really good. Warlock is eh. Hunter is bad,

The mage one is really really good. Warlock is eh. Hunter is bad,

How is Imp Gang Boss eh? The core principal of Zoo is trading as efficiently as possible. 4 health is the sweet spot for a 3 mana minion, which is why Spider Tank is so playable in Mech Mage despite it not doing anything special. You're essentially guaranteed 3/5 worth of stats minimum with IGB, and that's often going to be higher, since very few played minions at 3 mana or lower have 4 attack. Absolute staple in my opinion.

I like the mage one but ugh, didn't really need another 3-drop.

Er... what do you mean? Mech Mage typically only uses four 3 drops (two Tinkertown Techs and your choice of Spider Tanks or Harvest Golems), since the secrets don't really count. Tempo Mage uses even less.

I was just pointing out that all of the current mainstream Mage decks aren't really using many 3 drops, so I'm confused why browarod takes issue with the cost.

Imp Gang Boss is a Zoo/Midrange staple for sure. I'd say more than 50% of the time this is going to summon at least 2 Imps, which makes it terrific. It is good even if it only summons 1 Imp, and in the case that it summons nothing, it probably did as much as a Spider Tank would. Its only major weakness that I can see is Cabal Shadow Priests (or Kodos).

I'm not yet sure on Flamewaker. It's likely that most of the time that this card is played on turn 3, it will survive until turn 4 and then get to show off at least once on the next turn. It is probably going to be worthwhile if it shoots 2 missiles and it will definitely be worthwhile if it shoots 4. Tentatively, I really like this card, but I don't think it fits in Mech Mage (which is probably a good thing).

Core Rager is crap. It's crap if it is played as a 4/4 and if it's played as a 7/7 it will be the only BGH target in the deck ... making it crap. The only viable strategy that uses this card is to travel to a parallel universe where this card is good.

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Blackwing Corruptor is incredible for dragon decks.  Auto-include for dragon decks.

Dragon's Breath is pretty meh, not worth an include in constructed but reasonable enough if you have to take it in arena.

I fully expect Dragon's Breath to be a staple in any kind of frost or mill Mage variants.

I don't get the point of Doomsayer + Frost Nova + Dragon's Breath.... hit their face for 4 damage?

Here's my view of the card.

If played without using the cost reduction, it is absolutely horrible.

If played with the cost reduction, it's comparable to flamecannon.

In the rare case you manage to get it to zero mana, it's okay.

Why would I ever need to run such a conditional card over flamecannon, frostbolt, and fireball?

The one silver lining...

It's a common card, meaning mages have a chance of getting this instead of flamestrike in arena!

Why would I ever need to run such a conditional card over flamecannon, frostbolt, and fireball?

You don't have to play it over those cards - you can play it in addition to those cards.

First of all, if you get Dragon's Breath to cost 2, it is significantly better than flamecannon because 1) it's aimable and 2) it can hit face.

Freeze mage decks do not run Flamecannon as far as I have ever seen because it cannot hit face, and that's the point of damage spells in that deck. However, I believe they would happily run Dragon's Breath, which will often be a free source of damage after a board clear or a way to clean up after an almost board clear.

I hope they fix the centering issue on the healths of those cards before putting them into the game....