Author Topic: Hearthstone (Read 220062 times)

browarod · « **Reply #325 on:** September 16, 2014, 12:47:16 PM »

Quote from: Drrek on September 16, 2014, 12:29:23 PM

Cairne is more consistent. If you were running crusher shaman, AS would be required, but this is deathrattle shaman.

I don't know nicknames in Hearthstone (aside from Miracle Rogue and Zoo Lock) so I don't know what crusher shaman is, lol.

Okay Bloodlusts out for Cairne and Loatheb. Thanks for the suggestions everyone!

Master KChief · « **Reply #326 on:** September 16, 2014, 01:17:40 PM »

Crusher Shaman is using AS and Faceless to fill your board up with Earth Elementals to pretty much lock up the late game. AS can be good with your Deathrattles, but Reincarnate is a lot better by being proactive instead of reactive and also isn't asking to get 2 for1'd by Silence.

You may also want to consider Sludge Belcher and Undertaker, both synergize very well with the deck.

browarod · « **Reply #327 on:** September 16, 2014, 02:11:50 PM »

I thought about Undertaker but wasn't sure what to take out. Any ideas on how to get Sludge Belcher or Undertaker in there? I could take out the AS since it's only marginally useful but that's only 1 slot.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #328 on:** September 16, 2014, 04:06:54 PM »

Does anyone know the best forum? Olijar found the best Pokemon forum for me, but I don't want to mess around with a forum full of noobs if there's an elitist one out there, and keeping track of a third forum seems like a good idea.

Master KChief · « **Reply #329 on:** September 16, 2014, 04:46:36 PM »

Liquidhearth is by far the best. Hearthpwn is also good. Tempostorm.com if you like your Hearthstone extra salty.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #330 on:** September 16, 2014, 08:48:54 PM »

Tempostorm isn't really a forum, though I read it frequently.

Turns out the deck I hate most is the deck I do best with. Ranking up with Zoo. Fairly certain I'm going to hit a wall with it soon--too many control decks in the higher ranks. I can get by against the slower ones like Handlock, but Priest has been tricky.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #331 on:** September 16, 2014, 08:54:49 PM »

Quote from: Westy on September 16, 2014, 04:06:54 PM

Does anyone know the best forum? Olijar found the best Pokemon forum for me, but I don't want to mess around with a forum full of noobs if there's an elitist one out there, and keeping track of a third forum seems like a good idea.

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Drrek · « **Reply #332 on:** September 16, 2014, 09:40:49 PM »

Quote from: Westy on September 16, 2014, 08:48:54 PM

Tempostorm isn't really a forum, though I read it frequently.

Turns out the deck I hate most is the deck I do best with. Ranking up with Zoo. Fairly certain I'm going to hit a wall with it soon--too many control decks in the higher ranks. I can get by against the slower ones like Handlock, but Priest has been tricky.

In my experience zoo is a solid deck to rank up with, but once you hit rank 5 where the average player skill increases a fair amount (because no more win streaks), zoo hits a wall.

browarod · « **Reply #333 on:** September 17, 2014, 01:31:13 PM »

So I ended up swapping Feugen and Stalagg for Sludge Belchers after losing a game because the only taunt I have is a random totem and Feral Spirits.

Still trying to figure out a way to get Undertaker in. Debating taking out the Gnomish Inventors, but then I have no card draw at all and I don't like that idea.

Master KChief · « **Reply #334 on:** September 17, 2014, 02:00:30 PM »

If you want card draw you could lower your curve and put in Loot Hoarders instead of Gnomish Inventors. That would probably be best after you find room for the Undertakers though...turn 1 Undertaker into turn 2 Haunted Creeper or Loot Hoarder is very strong.

Also, why no Kel'Thizzle? Kel'Thizzle + Reincarnate is also pretty lulzy.

browarod · « **Reply #335 on:** September 17, 2014, 02:10:21 PM »

Truthfully, I hadn't thought about Kel'thuzad. I'm wondering if there are lackluster Deathrattlers I could take out to put the other cards in to make the deck stronger. I was having trouble winning with it today in Casual (my only win came from an opponent that D/C'd).

Master KChief · « **Reply #336 on:** September 17, 2014, 02:49:54 PM »

If you're trying to build a dedicated Deathrattle deck, you honestly don't even need the Flametongue Totems. Egg is also iffy since you need an activator for it, of which there are only 4 in the deck. If Egg goes, you can probably lose a Rockbiter or two. A Lightning Storm or two can also be cut depending on how much Zoo you're seeing on ladder.

browarod · « **Reply #337 on:** September 17, 2014, 02:53:42 PM »

So, to put it in add/remove terms:
-Flametongue
+Undertaker

-Eggs
+Loot Hoarder

What would you suggest adding for the Rockbiters? Put Feugen/Stalagg back in? Or Thuzzy and another AS?

I'd rather keep the Lightning Storm just because it's nice to have AoE but if there's something WAY better let me know and I'll consider it.

Thanks so much for the suggestions so far, they're super helpful.

Also, technically, there are 6 activators of Egg in the deck: 2 each of Flametongue, Rockbiter, and Reincarnation

Master KChief · « **Reply #338 on:** September 17, 2014, 03:49:57 PM »

Bloodmage Thalnos would be excellent if you have him. Synergy with Undertaker, card draw, and Spell Power for your Bolts/Storms. Sylvanas would also be very good in a Deathrattle build.

If you're looking for more stuff to cut, you probably don't need the Feral Spirits anymore since you dropped the Flametongue/Egg package. I would test Kel'Thuzad as well for the time being...I've always been of the position that he just seems like a win-moar card when you're already ahead or at parity on board (since he does practically nothing if you're behind on board), so he always isn't necessary. However he seems like he could be good with all the Deathrattles...plus having 2 Kel'Thuzads at end of turn after Reincarnating one seems really fun.

Drrek · « **Reply #339 on:** September 17, 2014, 05:06:21 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 17, 2014, 03:49:57 PM

Bloodmage Thalnos would be excellent if you have him. Synergy with Undertaker, card draw, and Spell Power for your Bolts/Storms. Sylvanas would also be very good in a Deathrattle build.

If you're looking for more stuff to cut, you probably don't need the Feral Spirits anymore since you dropped the Flametongue/Egg package. I would test Kel'Thuzad as well for the time being...I've always been of the position that he just seems like a win-moar card when you're already ahead or at parity on board (since he does practically nothing if you're behind on board), so he always isn't necessary. However he seems like he could be good with all the Deathrattles...plus having 2 Kel'Thuzads at end of turn after Reincarnating one seems really fun.

KT is definitely a win more card if you are ahead, but when you are at parity, he swings the board massively in your favor, as you are able to trade however you want. KT still seems a little slow for my tastes, but by all means try him out, never know what will work until you try it.

browarod · « **Reply #340 on:** September 17, 2014, 05:07:30 PM »

Did you mean Shocks/Storms? I don't actually have any Bolts in the deck currently.

I unfortunately don't have either Thalnos or Sylvanas, but I will put them at the top of my list of things to craft when I get more dust.

I'll test with Kel and a second AS in for the Rockbiters, in addition to the changes from my last post, and see how the deck fares. 2 Kels DOES sound like fun, haha. I think I'll keep the Spirit Wolves for now as I don't have anything to replace them with currently (Thalnos and Sylvy being their replacements once I can acquire them). Unless you think it'd be better to keep the Rockbiters over the Feral Spirits right now?

Master KChief · « **Reply #341 on:** September 17, 2014, 05:25:04 PM »

Rockbiters would be more versatile than the Spirits imo. But Bolts would be better over the Biters. If you put Bolts in, craft a Thalnos.

browarod · « **Reply #342 on:** September 17, 2014, 07:31:12 PM »

Until I can craft a Thalnos which is better, Bolts or Biters?

Master KChief · « **Reply #343 on:** September 17, 2014, 08:24:33 PM »

I would probably still pick Bolts over Biters because of Air totems and better reach overall.

browarod · « **Reply #344 on:** September 17, 2014, 08:53:05 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 17, 2014, 08:24:33 PM

I would probably still pick Bolts over Biters because of Air totems and better reach overall.

Cool, thanks for the tips! You've been uber helpful.

Master KChief · « **Reply #345 on:** September 17, 2014, 09:05:21 PM »

Can you post an updated screenshot? Curious to see what the deck looks like currently.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #346 on:** September 18, 2014, 02:48:56 PM »

Is it just me, or have priest decks taken over the ladder?

Drrek · « **Reply #347 on:** September 18, 2014, 03:04:29 PM »

Quote from: Westy on September 18, 2014, 02:48:56 PM

Is it just me, or have priest decks taken over the ladder?

The Kibler deathrattle priest is super popular at the moment. Don't worry though, once the hunter nerf is in place, handlocks can come out of hiding, and deathrattle priest is bad against handlock.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #348 on:** September 18, 2014, 03:18:07 PM »

Isn't Miracle good against it as well? I'd craft either of the decks, but I don't have the dust for all those epics right now. I may just have to join them. My only other option would my control paladin, but that's not a great matchup either (probably closer to 50/50)

browarod · « **Reply #349 on:** September 18, 2014, 04:20:45 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 17, 2014, 09:05:21 PM

Can you post an updated screenshot? Curious to see what the deck looks like currently.

Here you go:

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