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« Reply #250 on: August 07, 2014, 04:32:38 PM »
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Really? This is the first wing that I've used the Priest in at all. I did warlock, druid, and mage decks for the others. I think I did a warrior in there too.

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« Reply #251 on: August 07, 2014, 04:56:28 PM »
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And even with Priest, the Heroic challenges are still pretty RNG reliant.

Goth is still giving me headaches. Anyone have any strats for him?
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« Reply #252 on: August 08, 2014, 12:26:41 AM »
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I beat the first one with:

Turn 1 - Power Word: Shield on an understudy.
Turn 2 - Divine Spirit on the same one
Turn 3 - Mind control crystal, Inner Fire.

You need a PERFECT draw to beat him with priest.

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4 horsemen pretty much requires both Shadow Word: Pains by turn 3 or you lose.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #253 on: August 08, 2014, 01:06:47 AM »
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My turn 4 kill against Heroic Instructor Raz:

Turn 1: Power Word Shield on an Understudy.
Turn 2: Divine Spirit on same Understudy.
Turn 3: Mind Control Crystal, Inner Fire on PWS/DS Understudy, attack for 18. Mind Vision, taking Massive Runeblade.
Turn 4: Massive Runeblade, attack for 20. Attack with Understudy for 18.
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« Reply #254 on: August 08, 2014, 01:24:52 AM »
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Seems a little silly to rely on luck to win in Heroic.  Instead of "Heroic mode," they ought to call it "Luck mode" or "RLK mode" or some other silliness.   ???
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« Reply #255 on: August 08, 2014, 01:38:37 AM »
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Level 60 Rogue FINALLY. Those golden Tazdingos are pretty shiny.

Now on to ranking up to Legendary, hopefully...
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« Reply #256 on: August 08, 2014, 10:01:53 AM »
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You need a PERFECT draw to beat him with priest.

I went with Mage. Polymorph'd 1-2 and stall out with spells until you can kill or silence the last couple, then just cast some fireballs

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« Reply #257 on: August 08, 2014, 01:32:25 PM »
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally beat Instructor Raz guy!! It was sheer luck in that he never drew into his second Runeblade, but I'm certainly not complaining! :D

That puts my Heroic bosses downed at 3, one from each wing. >_<

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« Reply #258 on: August 08, 2014, 11:45:23 PM »
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So I somehow got to 11 wins with this rather average deck.  idgi.  I generally go 3-0 or 4-0, and then lose 3 in a row, so after going 4-0 I decided to wait a day to play again. Today I finished it up, winning my first 3 games and the rest being spread out.

Cards at top were Mirror Image x2, Argent Squire, and Arcane Missiles.




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« Reply #259 on: August 09, 2014, 12:05:24 AM »
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I've wondered if waiting some would help instead of tackling it in one sitting.  Again, I'm probably just being superstitious but I'm skeptical of the RNG.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #260 on: August 09, 2014, 07:10:34 PM »
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What RNG are you speaking of?

I think for some people good performances can be attributed to taking breaks at occasional intervals rather than playing all games out at once.
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« Reply #261 on: August 09, 2014, 07:15:01 PM »
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What RNG are you speaking of?

I think for some people good performances can be attributed to taking breaks at occasional intervals rather than playing all games out at once.
I was referening the Random Number Generator.  I assume it randomly assigns opponents in addition to giving Random cards to draft, and Random cards in the starting hand.

But I do see your point at coming back to the games fresh and sharp.
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« Reply #262 on: August 09, 2014, 08:37:02 PM »
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I know what RNG is. I'm just perplexed at what it can possibly be attributed to in the situations already described. Arena opponents are assigned based on having the same record as you currently have. Arena drafting and cards in starting hand or drawn from deck are obviously RNG, but I do not know how either of those would possibly be affected by choosing to play in one sitting or at different times during the day.
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« Reply #263 on: August 09, 2014, 10:58:16 PM »
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I know what RNG is. I'm just perplexed at what it can possibly be attributed to in the situations already described. Arena opponents are assigned based on having the same record as you currently have. Arena drafting and cards in starting hand or drawn from deck are obviously RNG, but I do not know how either of those would possibly be affected by choosing to play in one sitting or at different times during the day.
It just feels like the ladder resets when you leave and come back, but maybe it is just being fresh. Regardless, I'm going to be taking breaks during arena runs from now on.

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« Reply #264 on: August 10, 2014, 03:16:26 AM »
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If you're talking about the ranked ladder resetting, yes, the meta does change every few hours near the top of the ladder. In Arena, you're always playing people with the exact same current win record as you, so I'm not certain what would be resetting in those regards.

Taking breaks every few Arena rounds is always a good idea, even if it's only for a couple minutes. Being able to take the time to refresh yourself or shake off a loss is a good way to prevent mental fatigue or going on tilt in future rounds.
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« Reply #265 on: August 13, 2014, 10:44:04 PM »
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Had a moment in Arena. 6 cards left in deck. Probably facing lethal the next turn.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #266 on: August 17, 2014, 12:35:47 PM »
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I think I've played 18 Hunters out of my last 20 games in constructed...

Thanks a lot, Reynad. Stupid 90% win-rate deck..
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« Reply #267 on: August 17, 2014, 12:48:02 PM »
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One of my friends said he kept running into stupid Duplicate combo decks. I told him to run hunter with 2x flare, and he said pretty much everyone else had the same idea.

Blizzard needs to make a neutral anti-secret card.

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« Reply #268 on: August 17, 2014, 02:44:55 PM »
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One of my friends said he kept running into stupid Duplicate combo decks. I told him to run hunter with 2x flare, and he said pretty much everyone else had the same idea.

Blizzard needs to make a neutral anti-secret card.

Hunter is incredibly good right now, and its bad for the meta.  Secrets aren't the only issue that causes this, but Mad Scientist was one of the biggest boons you could possible give a class with great secrets like hunter.
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« Reply #269 on: August 17, 2014, 03:29:49 PM »
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Hunter was already my favorite class, I'm excited to try this new deck out.

That said, my computer is down for the count right now.  I was in the middle of a 5-1 arena run too.

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« Reply #270 on: August 20, 2014, 03:25:50 PM »
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So Kel'Thuzad is a joke...literally. He just sits there making puns the whole time. The cool thing is he has a different response at the beginning based on which class you are (I don't want to spoil them cuz they're kinda funny) and each different type of emote you can do (Thanks, Sorry, Greetings, Threaten, etc.) he gives a different response (like "You're....welcome..?" when you use Thanks).

Also, word of warning, Kel cheats a bit partway into the match. On normal he starts with 30 health and 10 armor. Once you break his last armor he immediately ends your turn (so use your mana before that if possible), switches his Hero Power (becomes: 8 cost, Take control of a random enemy minion until end of turn), and summons two 3/3 minions with Taunt.

I am, however, having some difficulty on him with the Paladin Class Challenge. They give you a bunch of the duplicating oozes and not much else.

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« Reply #271 on: August 20, 2014, 07:49:22 PM »
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kt on paladin challenges is about using the oozes to get more value out of your buffs.   I don't think i have ever seen KT use his second ability on normal or the pally challenge. 

Both normal bosses were disappointing but I haven't attempted heroic yet.

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« Reply #272 on: August 21, 2014, 10:49:45 AM »
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The problem I'm having with the Paladin challenge is that, with the oozes being 1/2, it takes awhile to get them rolling and through his 10 armor, meanwhile he's zapping you for 2 damage every turn with his HP and smacking into you with his minions (since the oozes don't taunt by default). By the time I get to phase 2 I'm usually sub 20 health and I haven't yet seen any heals in the deck.

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« Reply #273 on: August 22, 2014, 06:14:35 PM »
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In case anyone's interested, there is an open tournament going on tomorrow called The Sunshine Open starting at 1 pm Eastern.  I will be participating and will be streaming my games (on a delay) at www.twitch.tv/drrek0 in case anyone wants to see me get beat in the tournament.

Also if you like tournaments, sign up and play.  There's a $1500 prize pool, and the winner gets a seat at the Blizzcon NA qualifier.
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« Reply #274 on: August 23, 2014, 11:51:10 AM »
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I'm signed up for it as well now. Thanks for the info!

Edit: Update - The first series we traded games back and forth, I came out on top 3-2. The second series I lost the first two, and then came back to win 3 straight (3-2).
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