Author Topic: Good games on the wii (Read 59119 times)

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #200 on:** January 12, 2010, 04:17:39 PM »

200th post, which I will reserve for spam when I see fit.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #201 on:** January 12, 2010, 05:31:10 PM »

Master KChief · « **Reply #202 on:** January 12, 2010, 05:43:17 PM »

Quote from: Arch Angel on January 12, 2010, 07:53:51 AM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on January 07, 2010, 05:10:23 PM
I like motion control for things like shooters and fighters. You can't go out in real life and shoot up some Nazis, or don a three-hundred-pound Zwiehander and smack Yoda around. Yes, my second comment was in reference to Soul Caliber. Yes, I know Soul Caliber does not have motion sensors. But I can't wait to be able to actually wield a sword in a fighting game, once the technology catches up to where that would make a good game.
Just caught up on this thread today. If anyone Wii owners here are still looking for a good Fighting game, then you should *definitely* check out Soul Calibur Legends. You only get 7 characters in all (Main one being Siegfried, then you unlock Ivy, Sophitia, Taki, Astaroth, Mitsurugi {May be one more I'm forgetting} and then the guest character Lloyd {From the Tales Of: Symphonia games})

The only two real complaints I've ever had with this game is the Nunchuck's dashing control (which has been resolved now that I've learned to keep it properly straight) and the camera controls are *slightly* wonky sometimes. The co-op mode and vs modeS more than make up for it, however, and despite its subpar reviews (ranked as "fair" by most of its reputable reviews) the game in all satisfies my desire for a good Wii-based fighting game. Also, it doesn't hurt that I was able to easily get it for $20.

well, soul calibur legends isnt a fighting game...its action adventure.

additionally, soul calibur legends received horrible reviews and scores, which saddened me as im a hardcore soul cali fan. it has a metacritic score of 52, which is pretty mediocre.

lightningninja · « **Reply #203 on:** January 12, 2010, 05:48:05 PM »

That's why he said despite the reviews it ACTUALLY is a good game....

Master KChief · « **Reply #204 on:** January 12, 2010, 05:54:54 PM »

...but its not.

The Schaef · « **Reply #205 on:** January 12, 2010, 06:24:15 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on January 12, 2010, 12:51:45 AM

whats your point here? everyone plays the games they prefer.

And according to you, the people who prefer the kind of games you don't care for are simple-minded.

Master KChief · « **Reply #206 on:** January 12, 2010, 06:30:57 PM »

yes, simple games with easy learning curves for simple-minded people. its a preference for some. so?

The Schaef · « **Reply #207 on:** January 12, 2010, 06:51:39 PM »

Well, if you can't see anything wrong with assigning intelligence levels to people based on their gaming preferences, then there's really nothing I can explain to you.

Master KChief · « **Reply #208 on:** January 12, 2010, 06:54:51 PM »

being simple-minded does not always correlate to intelligence. it just means that a person prefers simple things.

The Schaef · « **Reply #209 on:** January 12, 2010, 06:59:24 PM »

sim·ple-mind·ed or sim·ple·mind·ed (smpl-mndd)
adj.
1. Lacking in subtlety or sophistication; artless or naive.
2. Stupid or silly; foolish.
3. Mentally impaired.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

What you describe is being a person of simple TASTES, not of simple mind.

Master KChief · « **Reply #210 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:04:44 PM »

Quote from: The Schaef on January 12, 2010, 06:59:24 PM

sim·ple-mind·ed or sim·ple·mind·ed (smpl-mndd)
adj.
1. Lacking in subtlety or sophistication; artless or naive.
2. Stupid or silly; foolish.
3. Mentally impaired.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

What you describe is being a person of simple TASTES, not of simple mind.

and you dont perceive some simple games unsophisticated on some levels?

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #211 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:08:13 PM »

I consider FPS pretty unsophisticated myself. I mean, you're just trying to blow people up...

Then again, what is a sophisticated video game?

Master KChief · « **Reply #212 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:08:44 PM »

mature games, natch.

The Schaef · « **Reply #213 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:11:31 PM »

That is a non-starter. You said the games were designed for simple-minded persons. A game can be simple but that is not the same thing, and it's not what you said.

You're trying to split hairs, which is a poor response to giving you benefit of the doubt that you were not trying to be intentionally derogatory. Bubble Boy made an excellent point which doesn't seem to have impacted your thinking in the least.

Master KChief · « **Reply #214 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:16:52 PM »

so⋅phis⋅ti⋅cat⋅ed /səˈfɪstɪˌkeɪtɪd/
–adjective 1. (of a person, ideas, tastes, manners, etc.) altered by education, experience, etc., so as to be worldly-wise; not naive: a sophisticated young socialite; the sophisticated eye of a journalist.
2. pleasing or satisfactory to the tastes of sophisticates: sophisticated music.
3. deceptive; misleading.
4. complex or intricate, as a system, process, piece of machinery, or the like: a sophisticated electronic control system.
5. of, for, or reflecting educated taste, knowledgeable use, etc.: Many Americans are drinking more sophisticated wines now.

yes, my copy and paste prowess is uncanny as well. what is the opposite of complex? simple? ok then. so some games can be unsophisticated/simple. do some people like unsophisticated/simple games? yes? ok then. does that make them retarded? probably not? ok, awesome.

The Schaef · « **Reply #215 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:21:19 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on January 12, 2010, 07:16:52 PM

so some games can be unsophisticated/simple.

I am not in disagreement with that. I did not breathe one word contradicting your notion that games can be simple or complex, and have specifically expressed agreement on this point. If you invested half the energy into reaching a common understanding as in the effective use of sarcasm, you would realize this.

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do some people like unsophisticated/simple games? yes? ok then. does that make them retarded? probably not? ok, awesome.

Probably not, but having resisted all attempts to suggest that maybe you didn't mean to call people simple-minded, then in your stated opinion, the answer is yes.

Master KChief · « **Reply #216 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:28:50 PM »

there are people with SIMPLE TASTES (read: more than likely not stupid, dumb, retarded, lacking mental capacity) that prefer to play simple games. happy? what difference does it make? i'll keep an eye out for the dictionary police next time.

The Schaef · « **Reply #217 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:41:33 PM »

Now, see? How hard is that? I won't get into what difference it makes, between saying people are stupid and not saying people are stupid, lest I be labeled again the "dictionary police" for simply suggesting you didn't mean what you said the way you said it, and since the impact of your words on others does not seem to be a high priority.

Josiahrocks1 · « **Reply #218 on:** January 13, 2010, 10:21:25 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on January 12, 2010, 07:04:44 PM

Quote from: The Schaef on January 12, 2010, 06:59:24 PM
sim·ple-mind·ed or sim·ple·mind·ed (smpl-mndd)
adj.
1. Lacking in subtlety or sophistication; artless or naive.
2. Stupid or silly; foolish.
3. Mentally impaired.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

What you describe is being a person of simple TASTES, not of simple mind.

and you dont perceive some simple games unsophisticated on some levels?

The Wii is not Simple, I have finised maybe 2-3 of my Wii games (that I have had longer than my PS3) and almost all of my PS3 games. The Wii takes much more skill than pusing buttons, You have to actually have to do something to finish the game.

The Schaef · « **Reply #219 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:19:36 AM »

I just disagree with the whole premise, in light of games like Brawl, Metroid, Zelda, World of Goo, Okami, Muramasa, The Conduit, a handful of stylized titles not appropriate for this forum, and the standard issue music and sports games... it seems to me like there's plenty here that could be considered sophisticated even without arguing over how one defines sophistication in video games.

Master KChief · « **Reply #220 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:25:53 AM »

music?

The Schaef · « **Reply #221 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:45:56 AM »

Yes, music. Games with titles typically ending in Hero, Band, or Dance, and bearing the likenesses of various cultural pop icons.

Master KChief · « **Reply #222 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:48:05 AM »

those are not wii exclusives.

The Schaef · « **Reply #223 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:50:28 AM »

At what point did that become an issue?

Master KChief · « **Reply #224 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:55:06 AM »

personally i find that one of the best methods to judge a system individually, by the quality of its exclusive games, versus games you can find on all consoles. since you can find band/hero/dance on all systems, it doesnt exactly make it a sophisticated system by its own merits.

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