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fairly often, the game did not do what I told it to, resulting in a loss.

However, as technology progresses, this problem will disappear.

if you really wanted to act like you're throwing a football, the simple answer would be...why not just go outside and throw a football?

Sure, I can go outside and throw a football.  But I can't throw a touchdown pass to Reggie Wayne to win the Super Bowl.  Depending on the availability of my friends, I might not be able to throw the football to anyone but a wall.  I think there's a clear difference here.

And if you want to know the future of gaming.  Madden '20 is going to be a football helmet that you actually put on.  The visor will be the screen and whichever way you turn your head will control what you see on the field.  The speakers will be right next to you ears and you'll hear the roar of the stadium.  Your movement's will control you actions, and you'll actually feel like you ARE playing in the superbowl

one of my favorite gamecube games EVAR. huge shooter fan.

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on January 07, 2010, 12:02:49 PM

fairly often, the game did not do what I told it to, resulting in a loss.

Quote from: Prof Underwood on January 07, 2010, 11:58:12 AM

However, as technology progresses, this problem will disappear.

Quote from: Master KChief on January 07, 2010, 04:36:38 PM

if you really wanted to act like you're throwing a football, the simple answer would be...why not just go outside and throw a football?

Sure, I can go outside and throw a football.  But I can't throw a touchdown pass to Reggie Wayne to win the Super Bowl.  Depending on the availability of my friends, I might not be able to throw the football to anyone but a wall.  I think there's a clear difference here.

And if you want to know the future of gaming.  Madden '20 is going to be a football helmet that you actually put on.  The visor will be the screen and whichever way you turn your head will control what you see on the field.  The speakers will be right next to you ears and you'll hear the roar of the stadium.  Your movement's will control you actions, and you'll actually feel like you ARE playing in the superbowl

That doesn't exactly redeem the wii.

if i wanted to play with psone graphics, i would go buy one. better yet, i'll just play psone games on my ps3. sorry, but nintendo needs to cut the apron strings and step up their game...namely in the graphics department. cheap novelties and gimmicks wont last forever.

The bottom line is still money and target audience. Nintendo targets families more than singles. This strategy has kept them alive all these years, and few would argue that the Wii was a huge step forward for them. They went from a distant third to top table (even though they were already there for handhelds).

Y'all can sit here and argue graphics all you want, but Nintendo isn't going to listen. They are listening to people like me (their target audience). I am buying their stuff, and not buying their competitor's stuff. That is the only victory they care about.

On a related note, the vast majority of the highest grossing movies of all time are rated PG-13 or less. People can argue about the "reality" of R-rated movies all they want, but the fact is that more families go to the movies that are not rated R, and spend all their money there.

Target audience. Paying for a family of five costs more than paying for a single person. That's also why Disney is the giant that it is, and movies like High School Musical can make a ton more money than Saw.

No matter how shiny you make a game, if the game is still bad it won't get played. Inversely if a game has bad graphics but is still a good game it WILL get played. Go figure.

like Tetris...

i wont argue its a great system for the simple-minded

Says the guy who can't get over graphics(The art of making something Shiny)

Quote from: Master KChief on January 10, 2010, 01:56:12 PM

i wont argue its a great system for the simple-minded

Says the guy who can't get over graphics(The art of making something Shiny)

great game with great graphics > great game with crappy graphics. i like to have my cake and eat it, too.

heh portal, another great game that is glaringly void from the wii library.

...little-known but true fact, i do enjoy some cooking mama from time to time.

...little-known but true fact, i do enjoy some cooking mama from time to time.

....but only for the graphics..... 

the wii just isnt a platform i can take seriously. i wont argue its a great system for the simple-minded, but it just has far too many shortcomings for a serious gamer like me.

If you derive so much of your identity from being a "serious gamer" then have at it. I prefer having fun to setting up personae based on video games.

You have a point MKC.  Wii games aren't necessarily BETTER than Xbox games (or vice versa).  It just depends on a person's pallette.  But there are games like violent, killing games that I deem not worth playing and worse than others.  There are some that are good, but most are plain trash.

I like motion control for things like shooters and fighters. You can't go out in real life and shoot up some Nazis, or don a three-hundred-pound Zwiehander and smack Yoda around. Yes, my second comment was in reference to Soul Caliber. Yes, I know Soul Caliber does not have motion sensors. But I can't wait to be able to actually wield a sword in a fighting game, once the technology catches up to where that would make a good game.

Just caught up on this thread today. If anyone Wii owners here are still looking for a good Fighting game, then you should *definitely* check out Soul Calibur Legends. You only get 7 characters in all (Main one being Siegfried, then you unlock Ivy, Sophitia, Taki, Astaroth, Mitsurugi {May be one more I'm forgetting} and then the guest character Lloyd {From the Tales Of: Symphonia games})

The only two real complaints I've ever had with this game is the Nunchuck's dashing control (which has been resolved now that I've learned to keep it properly straight) and the camera controls are *slightly* wonky sometimes. The co-op mode and vs modeS more than make up for it, however, and despite its subpar reviews (ranked as "fair" by most of its reputable reviews) the game in all satisfies my desire for a good Wii-based fighting game. Also, it doesn't hurt that I was able to easily get it for $20.