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Overall, I still hold that PC is far and away the most versatile of the systems.
My game totals, only games currently installed on my computer (I have a ton of older games from like, windows 98 era):FPS: 34 (though this is including the episodes of HL2)Racing: 4 (including Audiosurf, i dont know what else to put this under)RPG: 5Platformer/Puzzle: 4Action: 3RTS: 1The numbers would include a lot more racing, action, and puzzle games if I counted my older titles.Overall, I still hold that PC is far and away the most versatile of the systems.
Quote from: Master KChief on January 13, 2010, 01:00:35 PM...what? why wouldn't exclusive games make a difference? thats probably the biggest deciding factor for individuals that buy a single system!That's the biggest deciding factor for YOU if you buy a single system. Aside from the fact that you have negated this premise by purchasing multiple consoles, I repeat what I said earlier and BubbleBoy reiterated: there are many motivating factors in deciding which system to buy, and not everyone prioritizes in the same way that you do. And yes, to assume any reason not matching your own is strictly based on personal bias, is arrogance. You put in a qualifier of your own in your post, "if money is not a factor", and yet don't seem to show any consideration for the idea that for many people, money is in fact a factor, sometimes a substantial one.
...what? why wouldn't exclusive games make a difference? thats probably the biggest deciding factor for individuals that buy a single system!
im gonna guess your one rts game is starcraft.
Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on January 13, 2010, 01:03:34 PMOverall, I still hold that PC is far and away the most versatile of the systems.i'll say this the day halo 3 comes to pc.
However, the sreen is small, desk chairs are less comfortable than beanbag chairs, and keyboards are far less fun to play with than controllers, especially Wii ones.
So...anyone know any good games for the Wii?
money is in fact a factor, sometimes a substantial one.
buying a system because you prefer its exclusive titles over another sytems is not arrogance, which is what bb stated, and what i responded to. get your facts straight.
number one asked question: "what kinds of games does this one have?" do you think we say the guitar heros, maddens, etc? do those define a system if you can find them on others?
no, it always comes down to what kind of target demographic each console caters to, it always comes down to the exclusivity of a consoles games.
i deal with hundreds of video gaming individuals a day, and i see what kind of purchases they make and on what grounds.
Yeah, Nintendo secretly disguises the wii as a cheap system, when if you want to play most of those family games, you need to buy a couple more wiimotes which arent cheap. Expect to shell out another $100+ if you want three more controllers with nunchucks.
Quote from: Master KChief on January 13, 2010, 01:16:52 PMbuying a system because you prefer its exclusive titles over another sytems is not arrogance, which is what bb stated, and what i responded to. get your facts straight.I have provided facts nonstop from the first moment and that has had no impact on your thinking whatsoever. This statement is highly ironic, in addition to the fact that my sentence explains to you exactly where the arrogant thinking comes into play. Please read again.bb stated what he thought was arrogant. i said it is not arrogant to buy games based on console-exclusivity. why is this so hard for you to follow?Quotenumber one asked question: "what kinds of games does this one have?" do you think we say the guitar heros, maddens, etc? do those define a system if you can find them on others?It is part of the equation, yes. If a person wants to play football, and there's no football on the Wii, are they really going to care whether it's multiplatform or not?and when i tell them there is football on every console, what do you think their next question is? "which console is it best on?". which is what i've been saying all along.Quoteno, it always comes down to what kind of target demographic each console caters to, it always comes down to the exclusivity of a consoles games.So I walk into you store. I like to play sports games. That is my demographic. You will sell me a console based on console-exclusive sports titles only, to the exclusion of everything else. Am I understanding your logic correctly?correction: if you walked into my store, i would never sell anything to you. because you'd spend all day trying to argue.Quotei deal with hundreds of video gaming individuals a day, and i see what kind of purchases they make and on what grounds.I question whether you do. So far, you're provided exactly two reasons to buy a console: exclusive-only titles that you personally approve of, and ignorant personal bias. If that is your conclusion, then I submit you are the one doing the preaching and your perspective, like everything else you have discussed in your efforts to dodge simple questions, is seriously askew.you make completely no sense whatsoever here. first of all, did i ever state these were the only reasons people buy consoles? no? ok, awesome. do not put words into my mouth. also, i only claimed people are biased when they only have one console and one console to buy to. how could they possibly have an objective opinion about games if they cant sample them all? you cannot tell me what i sell, how i sell it, what customers ask, what customers prefer, and on what grounds they make that purchase. i deal with these customers everyday. do you? 'nuff said.
So I walk into you store. I like to play sports games. That is my demographic. You will sell me a console based on console-exclusive sports titles only, to the exclusion of everything else. Am I understanding your logic correctly?correction: if you walked into my store, i would never sell anything to you. because you'd spend all day trying to argue.
bb stated what he thought was arrogant. i said it is not arrogant to buy games based on console-exclusivity.
He still failed to answer the real question.Quote from: Master KChief on January 13, 2010, 03:26:07 PMbb stated what he thought was arrogant. i said it is not arrogant to buy games based on console-exclusivity.Arrogant, ignorant, misplaced priorities, call it what you will.because its a misplaced priority to prefer to buy a console based on its exclusive content? ask yourself...whos really being arrogant here? people WILL buy a console based on what they prefer. are you saying they should buy a console they don't prefer?The fact that you seem to answer only some of the questions that are presented to you makes it hard for me to take you seriously.me answering your questions and you not getting the answer you like are two completely different things. i dont recall a question i've dodged of yours.
bb stated what he thought was arrogant. i said it is not arrogant to buy games based on console-exclusivity. why is this so hard for you to follow?
and when i tell them there is football on every console, what do you think their next question is? "which console is it best on?". which is what i've been saying all along.
correction: if you walked into my store, i would never sell anything to you. because you'd spend all day trying to argue.
you make completely no sense whatsoever here.
first of all, did i ever state these were the only reasons people buy consoles? no?
i only claimed people are biased when they only have one console and one console to buy to.
you cannot tell me what i sell, how i sell it, what customers ask, what customers prefer, and on what grounds they make that purchase.
me answering your questions and you not getting the answer you like are two completely different things. i dont recall a question i've dodged of yours.
Everything I have said about what customers buy and why are based on my personal experience as a customer and the experiences of my friends, family and acquaintances, who also - amazingly - happen to be customers. I don't know whence came this attitude that it's not possible to know the reasons that people will buy things unless you're the magical wizard behind the counter; all you need is to observe, listen to and understand the people around you and employ some common sense.
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...because somehow you equate 'observing, listening, understanding the people around you' to the same as what i do.
how can you make an impartial observation if the only people you can observe are 'friends, family, acquaintances'?
I bought my Wii because I was too simple-minded to figure out how to shoot people.
because you are limited only to the people you know.
people i know + people that come into my store > people you know
you can say that is why tom bought a wii, but you cannot say that is the reason people in general buy a wii
heres a little simple equation i've made to hopefully show you what i mean:people i know + people that come into my store > people you know
Quote from: Master KChief on January 13, 2010, 04:23:31 PMheres a little simple equation i've made to hopefully show you what i mean:people i know + people that come into my store > people you knowThat's not an equation. An equation requires an equals sign. That is an inequality. So there.
Quote from: Master KChief on January 13, 2010, 04:23:31 PMbecause you are limited only to the people you know.Why is your response just repeating back to me what I just told you? We both have limited datasets from which to work, mine based on interaction and yours based on a single point of sale.yours is far more limited to mine.But whereas you have shown an inclination to tell people what they are supposed to want and why (perfectly natural for a sales position), I am simply listening to them as they tell me what they think for themselves. Between the two methods, I don't think mine is the one that has a confounding factor.really? because you dont think customers dont tell me what they think either?Quoteyou can say that is why tom bought a wii, but you cannot say that is the reason people in general buy a wiiBut here is the difference: I never did say that. I have spent all of this time saying that different people make different purchases for different reasons. The "reason people in general buy a wii" is not one reason but many and varied. That has been my position.Your position has been that my position is nonsense and people who buy the wii only make biased purchasing decisions. i said people that only have a wii make biased purchasing decisions. again, twisting my words.Your more general statement is that the reason people buy consoles is because of exclusive titles. yes, a very solid reason. why? because that is one strong reason i observe people buying a particular console in my store.You have repeatedly torn down even the slightest suggestion that anyone might buy anything for any other reason. You have left me no other possible conclusion than the one at which I have arrived.dont recall where i actually did that. its pretty obvious pepole buy consoles because of different reasons. where did i even try disputing this?
What if I said the people I know are over 9000!!! ?
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