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Yeah, fail. Pokemon is way better on touch-screen.

How it looks is window dressing, and has less than zero percent bearing on fun. Your criteria for evaluating the DS games are also quite silly. "Mostly" utilize touch-screen control is a far cry from "better with touch-screen control than a console control." Also, remove graphics from the criteria list as that was never what I was talking about in the first place.

Find anyone to agree with you that the controls on a PSP are the exact same thing, or even comparable compared to a console controller, and I'll be quite surprised.

4:10 is 40%. 40% of the good games for PSP you listed would just be better on PS3. Of the top 10 DS games? Only Mario Kart (debatable, some people prefer the DS controls) and Animal Crossing.

You also haven't played much Pokemon if you'd put "no" under "mostly utilize touch controls" (which is a silly criterion anyway).

Yeah, fail. Pokemon is way better on touch-screen.

care to actually back this up instead of just throwing out bold statements?

How it looks is window dressing, and has less than zero percent bearing on fun.

'fun' is a very subjective entity that differs from person to person and should have no bearing whatsoever on the raw performance of software on various platforms at this point. im pretty sure we've been contrasting the playability and performance of both handhelds software on a console, have we not?

Your criteria for evaluating the DS games are also quite silly. "Mostly" utilize touch-screen control is a far cry from "better with touch-screen control than a console control."

the controls would only fall under 'better' if the game either mostly of fully utilized such controls. as it is, i wouldnt say even 10% of the entire ds library does such a thing. its as much a novelty or sidedish as wii motion controls are.

Also, remove graphics from the criteria list as that was never what I was talking about in the first place.

but thats what i've been talking about this entire time. how else are you possibly going to compare if a game would be better in playability and performance (need i remind you, what we've been talking about this entire time) on a console unless graphics are a factor? visual aesthetics are just as important as any other facet of a game.

Find anyone to agree with you that the controls on a PSP are the exact same thing, or even comparable compared to a console controller, and I'll be quite surprised.

lets see, on the psp you have a dpad (exactly the same as on the ps3 controller), you have 4 main buttons (also exactly the same on a ps3 controller), and 1 analog which executes exactly as a ps3 analog would. when combined these are the most integral controls towards any fighter game on either platform. so yes, the controls are almost exactly identical to any controller setup since the psone. what ps3/psp have you been playing?

4:10 is 40%. 40% of the good games for PSP you listed would just be better on PS3.

so please, tell me how this equates to 'most'.

Of the top 10 DS games? Only Mario Kart (debatable, some people prefer the DS controls) and Animal Crossing.

i see no possible way you arrive at such conclusions, especially when you do not provide substantiations outside of just throwing out 'X is not a good game' or 'Y is better on this system'.

You also haven't played much Pokemon if you'd put "no" under "mostly utilize touch controls" (which is a silly criterion anyway).

please enlighten me then. it does what at best, select certain stuff during battle? scroll throught the pokedex? oh yes, thats really utilized throughout most of the game whereas simply pressing the 'A' button accomplishes the exact same thing and to a certain degree even faster and more accurately. and while you're at it, please tell me what criteria selection you have deemed worthy on how a handheld game would perform marginally better on a console. or are we just going to continue making up vastly arbitrary and purely subjective criterion such as 'fun'?

Quote from: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 08:03:17 PM

yes, pokemon has looked and played marginally better on the wii than pokemon on the ds.

Um no story on PBR. And most pokemon fans hate that game.

because story is so very hard to put into a wii game...?

First Pol wins the thread for the above post:

And the PSP Go is extremely close to the ds3 feel and you can even tether a ds3 to it.

There are many many games for psp that aren't FPs and are still hugely popular (I just personally am a hack and slash/FPS person) the top 10 are (we're starting to copy high fidelity style me thinks) anyways:
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep
Monster Hunter Freedom (series)
Final Fantasy Tactics
Valkyrie Chronicles (series)
Ys Seven 
Star Ocean (series)
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Crisis Core
Final Fantasy 1
Final Fantasy 2

and more (like undead nights etc.)

Josh's comments on the above: Sega Genesis/Atari/NES/SNES> All the before mentioned consoles.

On Arkham Asylum's storyline: AMAZING. It of course is twisted, demented, insane, and just evil but hey the villain is the JOKER when isn't he those?

Gameplay: I enjoyed EVERYTHING except any boss battles after

Spoiler (hover to show)

Venom(Chemical, not Spiderman's villain)

is introduced in. I could REALLY be Batman. I could sneak, hide, stealth and everything else. Do NOT play this game like you're superman. You have NO powers, you CAN NOT take sustained bullet fire and WILL die if you try to superman this. So rule of thumb, people with guns, don't let them see you.

I really want to play Arkham Asylum, it looked awesome (graphically) and it seemed like the storyline was pretty in-depth (from what I've seen, which is like 10 minutes of gameplay).

I could REALLY be Batman. I could sneak, hide, stealth and everything else.

Hmm... Somehow, that makes sense.  Yet so many game developers miss that...