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Title: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 12, 2010, 12:34:07 PM
Is anyone else completely and utterly excited about this?
http://www.batmanarkhamcity.com/ (http://www.batmanarkhamcity.com/)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 12, 2010, 12:37:30 PM
oh yeah. i played arkham asylum and it was beastly....seriously
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 12, 2010, 12:41:17 PM
oh yeah. i played arkham asylum and it was beastly....seriously
Yeah it was great, cept the boss fights (- Killer Croc. Scariest boss fight in the game)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 12, 2010, 12:47:48 PM
The boss fight was the easiest but killer crok was the hardest part of that game. i'm on my 4th playthough still lol can't wait. Need to make a multiplayer one too or some form of multiplayer mode.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 12, 2010, 01:14:50 PM
The boss fight was the easiest but killer crok was the hardest part of that game. i'm on my 4th playthough still lol can't wait. Need to make a multiplayer one too or some form of multiplayer mode.
Co-op is (at the moment, it could get removed) in Arkham City.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 12, 2010, 01:33:44 PM
niceeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 12, 2010, 01:39:00 PM
I think I'll have to play Asylum (I bought it but haven't had time to even put the disc in yet, stupid schoolwork >_>) first before I can even think about Arkham City, lol.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 12, 2010, 02:44:25 PM
totally worth it trust me.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 12, 2010, 05:38:39 PM
I hope they come out with it on PSN (I am a psp go owner tyvm and proud of it)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: JSB23 on October 12, 2010, 06:09:12 PM
I hope they come out with it on PSN (I am a psp go owner tyvm and proud of it)
(puts on long black mustache and top hat)
Socks to be you ohoho
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 12, 2010, 06:20:18 PM
:P I luv mah psp go tyvm its way better and the k series and besides I hate lugging around those UMD's (and the load length) so I'm happy with it :) (I got it for $125 used and works loik a charm
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 12, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
360 is better....nuff said
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 12, 2010, 06:23:50 PM
Laptop (for PC gaming) > DS (of all varieties) > PSP (of all varieties)

imho

360 is better....nuff said
Only if you love FPS and not much else.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 12, 2010, 06:44:47 PM
This is true...
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 12, 2010, 06:52:10 PM
Ds is only better if your 8 and under

PSP has games such as MGS: Peacewalker/Portable Ops-Silent Hill-God of War CoO and GoS-Dantes Inferno

Ds has cooking mama and CoD: MWF (and ds has the WORST control layout for fps


so sadly psp wyns for serious gamers on the go
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 12, 2010, 06:58:18 PM
Serious gamers on the go is an oxymoron, lol. "Serious gamers" stick to consoles and, sometimes, PC.

Why you would be playing an FPS on a handheld is beyond me, so your example is inherently flawed. :P

Also, I did say "imho", I never claimed it to be fact.

Also, I agree with JSB below :P.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: JSB23 on October 12, 2010, 06:59:03 PM
Ds is only better if your 8 and under

PSP has games such as MGS: Peacewalker/Portable Ops-Silent Hill-God of War CoO and GoS-Dantes Inferno

Ds has cooking mama and CoD: MWF (and ds has the WORST control layout for fps


so sadly psp wyns for serious gamers on the go
LOL @ obvious fanboy

DS: FF 3 4 TA2, Zelda PH and ST, New super Mario Bros, Nostalgia, The World ends with you, Golden sun, Castelvania OoE PoR DoS, Pokemon, Scribblenauts, all of the GBA games
PSP: The games you mentioned (btw Dante's Inferno stinks)  
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 12, 2010, 08:42:25 PM
I'll admit I ama psp fanboy  ;D


and psp has final fantasy to...also all your games weren't big FPS that people love to play more like small anime stuff I grow tired of.


and psp has Kingdom Hearts Birth by sleep which is 1000x better than 358/2 days
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 12, 2010, 08:50:55 PM
Also btw I will give you its a wonderful world.....quite possibly one of the best games ever made handheld wise (and if they did a few touch ups would make an epic ps3/Xbox 360 game)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: JSB23 on October 12, 2010, 09:03:29 PM
and psp has final fantasy too.
You're right PSP has all of the fail ones (except tactics that one's awesome)

Oh and you absolutely fail for saying no one loves to play Mario, Castlevania or Pokemon
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 12, 2010, 10:21:29 PM
like i said two groups:

litle kids E games like mario and pokemon or games for psp that have more of a story line than two plumbers teamed up to save a princess
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 12, 2010, 10:22:55 PM
Stop, now. Batman>Consoles/Pcs
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 12, 2010, 10:32:42 PM
litle kids E games like mario and pokemon or games for psp that have more of a story line than two plumbers teamed up to save a princess
At least Pokemon has strategy. Better than an FPS. Also, FE>FPS.

and Batman>Consoles/PCs.
which means Batman must use a Mac.  ;)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 12, 2010, 10:33:12 PM
ds does have a stronger library in terms of popular franchises and the overall sheer number of great games it contains. psp is great for the players that desire various multimedia freedoms as well as games that are visually impressive and geared towards a generally older demographic than that of the ds. final fantasy tactics, locoroco, castlevania chronicles, god of war, patapon, tekken/soul calibur, and metal gear solid are games the ds cannot match.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 12, 2010, 10:49:42 PM
litle kids E games like mario and pokemon or games for psp that have more of a story line than two plumbers teamed up to save a princess
At least Pokemon has strategy. Better than an FPS. Also, FE>FPS.

and Batman>Consoles/PCs.
which means Batman must use a Mac.  ;)
Only as a weapon.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 12, 2010, 11:13:55 PM
ds does have a stronger library in terms of popular franchises and the overall sheer number of great games it contains. psp is great for the players that desire various multimedia freedoms as well as games that are visually impressive and geared towards a generally older demographic than that of the ds. final fantasy tactics, locoroco, castlevania chronicles, god of war, patapon, tekken/soul calibur, and metal gear solid are games the ds cannot match.
finally someone understands!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master_Chi on October 13, 2010, 12:25:52 AM
litle kids E games like mario and pokemon or games for psp that have more of a story line than two plumbers teamed up to save a princess
At least Pokemon has strategy. Better than an FPS. Also, FE>FPS.

and Batman>Consoles/PCs.
which means Batman must use a Mac.  ;)
Only as a weapon.

Consuming Fire prevents your Mac. It must be a PC.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 13, 2010, 02:45:24 AM
ds does have a stronger library in terms of popular franchises and the overall sheer number of great games it contains. psp is great for the players that desire various multimedia freedoms as well as games that are visually impressive and geared towards a generally older demographic than that of the ds. final fantasy tactics, locoroco, castlevania chronicles, god of war, patapon, tekken/soul calibur, and metal gear solid are games the ds cannot match.
finally someone understands!
Except that DS has Tactics also, Tekken/SoulCalibur stinks on anything but PS3/360 (including Wii), God of War is overrated on any platform, and Castlevania is just meh.

Handhelds in general just can't compare to anything else.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 03:21:03 AM
this is probably the first time in a long time i've seen exactly every single point of a statement riddled in ignorance. and this one has 5 of them. no worries, allow me to enlighten you!

Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 13, 2010, 03:40:06 AM
LOL! You, my good sir, need to learn the difference between opinion and fact. This is a thread of opinion, I shared mine. Of course I'm in the minority since I don't like overrated games (like God of War and every Zombie game) or shooters (like Halo, CoD, etc.). I like puzzle games, and super hero games, and strategy games, and MMORPGs.

Also, I owned a PSP for the better part of a year. Sure it's better visually than the DS, I'll give you that, but it's nothing compared to an X360 or PS3 on a 42" widescreen HDTV. THAT is breathtaking. My PSP, much like your Wii, sat collecting dust for most of the time I owned it. Best decision I ever made with it was to trade it in with my PS2 for a PS3.

It's not ignorance to have opinions and preferences, especially when I've actually sampled most of what you claim I haven't.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 06:39:30 AM
Also, I owned a PSP for the better part of a year. Sure it's better visually than the DS, I'll give you that, but it's nothing compared to an X360 or PS3 on a 42" widescreen HDTV. THAT is breathtaking.

again, why are you even comparing the psp to a hdtv? is that a fair comparison? does the psp sport a hi-definition display with a 1,000,000 contrast ratio and a 600 mhz refresh rate? you dont even take into consideration what kind of hardware the psp/ds is and what its capabilities/expectations are. its for this very reason i dont believe you've played or seen either tekken or soul cali on the psp. yes, of course most games will look better in 1080p on a kick-butt hdtv. but this is not a performance expected of the psp, so that argument is null. however, in terms of graphics in comparison to its console brothers, it comes very close, especially when considering the hardware capabilities of the psp. namco has certainly raised the bar AND THEN SOME on what is aesthetically pleasing on the psp.

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It's not ignorance to have opinions and preferences, especially when I've actually sampled most of what you claim I haven't.

it is ignorance when you're either a) trying to pass something off as fact but isnt or b) are just stating the obvious to be obvious. yes, its a fact the ds/gba has a tactics. are you trying to imply anything else here except that somehow it stands neck and neck with the original ffa, when in fact its a terribly, terribly, terribly watered down version of it? or, perhaps you havent played one (or either) version and thought they were the one and the same? or, just stating the obvious...? im unclear of your stance here.

i've already addressed your issue with handhelds in general, and its just simply a matter of you comparing them to the wrong mediums.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 13, 2010, 11:39:43 AM
a)I never did that. You passed my opinion off as fact, not me. b)If stating my opinion is stating the obvious, then fine I concede this point.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: SomeKittens on October 13, 2010, 01:24:22 PM
Seeing an argument like this, I'm inclined to ask....
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Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 13, 2010, 01:26:51 PM
LOL! I love that comic XD.

I never wanted to argue, I was just stating my opinion. It seems like other people enjoy trying to prove my opinions wrong and dragging me into arguments about them >_<.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: SomeKittens on October 13, 2010, 01:36:17 PM
That happens far too much around here...  It's extremely hard to not take the bait.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Red on October 13, 2010, 01:38:53 PM
BTW How was arkham asylum's story?
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: SomeKittens on October 13, 2010, 01:41:10 PM
(Please avoid spoilers, I haven't played it yet)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 13, 2010, 01:44:19 PM
PSP=Shiny, not that many games, but the ones it does have are pretty good. Main flaw: not really any reason to use it other than sheer portability (every one of the good games PSP has would be/are much better on console except for locoroco, and I assume we're ignoring that since you want to cast PSP as the srs gamer handheld).

DS=TONS of games, and quite a few really, really good games that make a lot of sense to be on a handheld, and would not really benefit from being on a console (which is better). Main flaw: lower specs than PSP and no multi-functionality.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 02:07:32 PM
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I never wanted to argue, I was just stating my opinion. It seems like other people enjoy trying to prove my opinions wrong and dragging me into arguments about them >_<.

im not trying to argue either, and i certainly didnt mean to slam you in any way by saying you were ignorant on some issues (ok, i said all, and i apologize for that). in truth, i suppose im just curious at the reasoning behind arriving at 'game X that is generally favored by the gaming populace is overrated', which pretty much threw me for a loop.

Main flaw: not really any reason to use it other than sheer portability (every one of the good games PSP has would be/are much better on console except for locoroco, and I assume we're ignoring that since you want to cast PSP as the srs gamer handheld).

not even true. ffa/castlevania chronicles (i would hope people picking this up are doing it for the original sotn, and not rondo of blood) are ports of the exact same game. patapon falls into the same camp as locoroco. katamari looks the same. the list goes on and on. as far as other games, yeah, it could be said they would look better on the ps3, but when comparing the gap of psp to ps3 and ds to wii, the psp minimizes its gap fairly quickly (in terms of an actual ratio, it might be somewhat the same, since the wii doesnt set such a high bar with its visuals anyway. ugh, non-hd...atrocious.)

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DS=TONS of games, and quite a few really, really good games that make a lot of sense to be on a handheld, and would not really benefit from being on a console (which is better).

im curious on your reasoning behind this point. why would ds games not benefit from being on a system with better specs? the only argument i imagine you have here is touch functionality, which can easily be translated via the wii mote and chuck.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 13, 2010, 02:11:54 PM
im not trying to argue either, and i certainly didnt mean to slam you in any way by saying you were ignorant on some issues (ok, i said all, and i apologize for that). in truth, i suppose im just curious at the reasoning behind arriving at 'game X that is generally favored by the gaming populace is overrated', which pretty much threw me for a loop.
Eh, I think any game that most people like but I find okay or less is overrated (in my opinion) lol. I don't see the draw of FPSs, or of popular games like God of War. I've tried many of them simply because they were popular, and I've just found that I don't enjoy them as much as other people do. That's all.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 13, 2010, 03:28:06 PM
Ok, Castlevania. One exception doesn't change the overall statement a wee bit.

It's not that the DS games may not have better graphics (which matters zero when it comes to fun), but it's in opposition to the PSP, where they would be a lot better on a console (fighting games especially).
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
Ok, Castlevania. One exception doesn't change the overall statement a wee bit.

i have listed at least 3. there are quite a few more. your knowledge of the psp library seems rather limited.

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It's not that the DS games may not have better graphics (which matters zero when it comes to fun), but it's in opposition to the PSP, where they would be a lot better on a console (fighting games especially).

if you're going to compare the performance/playability/fun factor of the psp to the ps3 while contrasting it against the ds, then you must use the same parallel towards the ds and its console companion. is there any reason at all ds games would not perform overall better on the wii?

as for the fighting games on psp, they already are on a console...so if thats your thing, and you want a fighting game in all its 1080p glory while sitting on a couch with controller in hand, then thats where you need to be. but you cant fault psp fighters for not doing something it never claimed to do. its not like the psp versions are trying to tout any of the funcionality/playability of its console versions. that would be like me saying, 'hey, why play the console version when the arcade version is a million times better (most fighter enthusiasts agree with this)?' its just a fighting game for the people that prefer portability/mobility/cheaper/whatever, and it delivers on that front remarkably well. and considering the hardware limitations psp developers have to work with in comparison to the consoles, you can be nothing but amazed at the quality of the game and how close namco gets its portable fighters to the real thing. as for me, i have tekken 6 for both psp and xbox 360, because its a great game that i enjoy playing on a whim both at home/store or anywhere else that i go.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 13, 2010, 04:09:59 PM
Also PSP blows ds out of the water in the control scheme in FPS and fighting.

If you don't believe me play psp's MGS: Peacewalker/Resistance: Retribution vs Ds's CoD: MWF2 and WaW


It's just a fail at the control scheme (although I am highly jealous ds is getting black ops and psp isn't.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 04:17:20 PM
i also prefer psp controls over ds, as they are much more tighter and responsive and also has the analog stick.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 13, 2010, 04:23:13 PM
do you like go or k series style?


I like go personally after having both.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 04:26:24 PM
dont have a preference really. the buttons/analog themselves are essentially the same, which is what i like best.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: browarod on October 13, 2010, 04:27:52 PM
i also prefer psp controls over ds, as they are much more tighter and responsive and also has the analog stick.
I personally prefer the stylus more than the PSP, and even the Wiimote. It's precise, responsive, and a lot cleaner than flailing around with the joystick or hoping the Wii sensor bar can pick up your precise movements (without picking up more than you want and going too far), lol. Again, I don't play shooters, so no commenting on those :P. For the games that I like to play, the stylus is what I like best.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 13, 2010, 05:34:03 PM
Most of the games you named for PSP (which is just about it) are FPS or Fighting. FPS and Fighter games are better on console.

The top games on DS are not FPS or Shooter games, so they play pretty much the same on handheld or console (sometimes better, stylus is way faster for selecting stuff than any controller, WiiMote or otherwise).

Also, your post pretty much confirms what I was saying about the PSP: a lot of its best games are just (understandably) inferior versions of the console games, therefore, all they have going for them is mobility.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 07:52:05 PM
Most of the games you named for PSP (which is just about it) are FPS or Fighting. FPS and Fighter games are better on console.

...im sorry, come again? i will provide you a clear and concise list of all the psp games i have named. please tell me which ones are fighting or fps:


please show me if i've missed something. now, presuming 'most' = greater than 50%, can you show me how 'most' of my list is fps or fighter?

i also challenge you to show me how fighters are 'better' on a console. do you mean just based entirely on graphics? because a d-pad plus buttons is pretty much the exact same thing.

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The top games on DS are not FPS or Shooter games, so they play pretty much the same on handheld or console (sometimes better, stylus is way faster for selecting stuff than any controller, WiiMote or otherwise).

top  10 DS games in terms of total sales:

1. nintendogs // mostly utilize touch controls: yes // play or look better on a console: yes
2. new super mario bros // no // yes
3. brain age // yes // no
4. mario kart ds // no // yes
5. pokemon diamond/pearl // no // yes
6. brain age 2 // yes // no
7. animal crossing: wild world // yes // yes
8. pokemon heart gold/soul silver // no // yes
9. super mario 64 ds // no // yes
10. pokemon platinum // no // yes

of the top 10, only 4 utilizes full touch controls (of which 2 would probably be more accurate and precise using the wiimote or a regular controller). only 2 would not play or look better on a console. and only 2 met both qualifiers. so no, the top games of ds would not play or look the same on both platforms.

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Also, your post pretty much confirms what I was saying about the PSP: a lot of its best games are just (understandably) inferior versions of the console games, therefore, all they have going for them is mobility.

its funny you say this, because the exact same thing has been proven of the ds. and in the above list of psp games i have provided, i can see your statement holding water in only 4 cases. the others are either exact ports or games that would have no gained playability or graphical advantage on the ps3.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: JSB23 on October 13, 2010, 08:01:02 PM
I'm sorry Did you just say Pokemon would be better on home console?
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 08:03:17 PM
yes, pokemon has looked and played marginally better on the wii than pokemon on the ds.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 13, 2010, 09:43:44 PM
Yeah, fail. Pokemon is way better on touch-screen.

How it looks is window dressing, and has less than zero percent bearing on fun. Your criteria for evaluating the DS games are also quite silly. "Mostly" utilize touch-screen control is a far cry from "better with touch-screen control than a console control." Also, remove graphics from the criteria list as that was never what I was talking about in the first place.

Find anyone to agree with you that the controls on a PSP are the exact same thing, or even comparable compared to a console controller, and I'll be quite surprised.

4:10 is 40%. 40% of the good games for PSP you listed would just be better on PS3. Of the top 10 DS games? Only Mario Kart (debatable, some people prefer the DS controls) and Animal Crossing.

You also haven't played much Pokemon if you'd put "no" under "mostly utilize touch controls" (which is a silly criterion anyway).
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Red on October 13, 2010, 09:51:16 PM
yes, pokemon has looked and played marginally better on the wii than pokemon on the ds.
Um no story on PBR. And most pokemon fans hate that game.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 10:24:42 PM
Yeah, fail. Pokemon is way better on touch-screen.

care to actually back this up instead of just throwing out bold statements?

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How it looks is window dressing, and has less than zero percent bearing on fun.

'fun' is a very subjective entity that differs from person to person and should have no bearing whatsoever on the raw performance of software on various platforms at this point. im pretty sure we've been contrasting the playability and performance of both handhelds software on a console, have we not?

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Your criteria for evaluating the DS games are also quite silly. "Mostly" utilize touch-screen control is a far cry from "better with touch-screen control than a console control."

the controls would only fall under 'better' if the game either mostly of fully utilized such controls. as it is, i wouldnt say even 10% of the entire ds library does such a thing. its as much a novelty or sidedish as wii motion controls are.

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Also, remove graphics from the criteria list as that was never what I was talking about in the first place.

but thats what i've been talking about this entire time. how else are you possibly going to compare if a game would be better in playability and performance (need i remind you, what we've been talking about this entire time) on a console unless graphics are a factor? visual aesthetics are just as important as any other facet of a game.

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Find anyone to agree with you that the controls on a PSP are the exact same thing, or even comparable compared to a console controller, and I'll be quite surprised.

lets see, on the psp you have a dpad (exactly the same as on the ps3 controller), you have 4 main buttons (also exactly the same on a ps3 controller), and 1 analog which executes exactly as a ps3 analog would. when combined these are the most integral controls towards any fighter game on either platform. so yes, the controls are almost exactly identical to any controller setup since the psone. what ps3/psp have you been playing?

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4:10 is 40%. 40% of the good games for PSP you listed would just be better on PS3.

so please, tell me how this equates to 'most'.

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Of the top 10 DS games? Only Mario Kart (debatable, some people prefer the DS controls) and Animal Crossing.

i see no possible way you arrive at such conclusions, especially when you do not provide substantiations outside of just throwing out 'X is not a good game' or 'Y is better on this system'.

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You also haven't played much Pokemon if you'd put "no" under "mostly utilize touch controls" (which is a silly criterion anyway).

please enlighten me then. it does what at best, select certain stuff during battle? scroll throught the pokedex? oh yes, thats really utilized throughout most of the game whereas simply pressing the 'A' button accomplishes the exact same thing and to a certain degree even faster and more accurately. and while you're at it, please tell me what criteria selection you have deemed worthy on how a handheld game would perform marginally better on a console. or are we just going to continue making up vastly arbitrary and purely subjective criterion such as 'fun'?

yes, pokemon has looked and played marginally better on the wii than pokemon on the ds.
Um no story on PBR. And most pokemon fans hate that game.

because story is so very hard to put into a wii game...? ???
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 13, 2010, 10:32:22 PM
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Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 13, 2010, 10:42:46 PM
First Pol wins the thread for the above post:

And the PSP Go is extremely close to the ds3 feel and you can even tether a ds3 to it.

There are many many games for psp that aren't FPs and are still hugely popular (I just personally am a hack and slash/FPS person) the top 10 are (we're starting to copy high fidelity style me thinks) anyways:
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep
Monster Hunter Freedom (series)
Final Fantasy Tactics
Valkyrie Chronicles (series)
Ys Seven 
Star Ocean (series)
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Crisis Core
Final Fantasy 1
Final Fantasy 2

and more (like undead nights etc.)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master KChief on October 13, 2010, 11:47:23 PM
rpg fan much? :)

if anyone is curious, the top 10 psp games in terms of total sales are:

1. grand theft auto: liberty city stories
2. monster hunter freedom unite
3. grand theft auto: vice city stories
4. daxter
5. ratchet & clank: size matters
6. god of war: chains of olympus
7. crisis core: final fantasy vii
8. monster hunter freedom 2
9. need for speed: most wanted 5-1-0
10. tekken: dark resurrection

other notables include dissidia: final fantasy at 12, star wars battlefront 2 at 15, gran turismo at 18, metal gear solid: peace walker at 24, and kingdom hearts: birth by sleep at 30.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 14, 2010, 01:44:09 AM
Josh's comments on the above: Sega Genesis/Atari/NES/SNES> All the before mentioned consoles.

On Arkham Asylum's storyline: AMAZING. It of course is twisted, demented, insane, and just evil but hey the villain is the JOKER when isn't he those?

Gameplay: I enjoyed EVERYTHING except any boss battles after
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is introduced in. I could REALLY be Batman. I could sneak, hide, stealth and everything else. Do NOT play this game like you're superman. You have NO powers, you CAN NOT take sustained bullet fire and WILL die if you try to superman this. So rule of thumb, people with guns, don't let them see you.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: xCaLeBx on October 14, 2010, 08:06:20 AM
rpg fan much? :)


No :P FPS/TPS fan... I was justy trying to show the non shooter/hack n slash games of psp (and somehow forgot dissidia  :o )
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: Master_Chi on October 14, 2010, 09:27:39 AM
I really want to play Arkham Asylum, it looked awesome (graphically) and it seemed like the storyline was pretty in-depth (from what I've seen, which is like 10 minutes of gameplay).
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 14, 2010, 09:29:49 AM
I really want to play Arkham Asylum, it looked awesome (graphically) and it seemed like the storyline was pretty in-depth (from what I've seen, which is like 10 minutes of gameplay).

totally worth it.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham City.
Post by: SomeKittens on October 14, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
I could REALLY be Batman. I could sneak, hide, stealth and everything else.
Hmm... Somehow, that makes sense.  Yet so many game developers miss that...
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