Play an unchristian one.
Play WoW and don't roll Warlock or Shaman.I'm sorry, but I'm not going to bring witchcraft and demonism into my house, even if it is a game.
I'm sure one exists, however, I'm sure that it (being Christian) is absolutely horrible, simply because most Christian music, movies, and video games have a reputation for being horrible.
I think he's partly right. Nowadays, Christians don't come up with something different. They just make cheap ripoffs of something that doesnt even need a Christian substitute. I mean come on, Apples to Apples Bible Edition?I'm sure one exists, however, I'm sure that it (being Christian) is absolutely horrible, simply because most Christian music, movies, and video games have a reputation for being horrible.
colin, i can prove you wrong on that statement
Skillet, Tree 63, third day, jars of clay, thousand foot crutch, barlow girl, toby mac, hawk nelson, want me to keep going on christian music?
lord of the rings, chronicles of narnia, left behind, i could go on forever on christian movies
Victory at hebron is the only christian video game that comes to mind.
but point being, your very wrong and your just gonna be more wrong the more ya post stupid stuff like ya just did
They just make cheap ripoffs of something that doesnt even need a Christian substitute.Really? Do you think Redemption is a cheap ripoff of something that didn't need a Christian substitute. I heavily disagree.
which is why obi-wan owned anikan but that's only going off topicQuoteThey just make cheap ripoffs of something that doesnt even need a Christian substitute.Really? Do you think Redemption is a cheap ripoff of something that didn't need a Christian substitute. I heavily disagree.
While sometimes this occurs, only Sith use absolutes.......
and i quote tim allen from toy story or santa claus 2:
All of those bands are debatable.
LotR, not a Christian movie, Chronicles of Narnia, not a Christian movie, Left Behind, not a good movie. House is the only thing in that category that's really an exception. And for every House, there are a hundred C Me Dance (look it up, they're serious).
There are no good Christian video games. There are some ok ones, but nothing even close to even a mediocre console game.
Redemption isn't a substitute. Its a good example of an original idea thought up by a Christian.QuoteThey just make cheap ripoffs of something that doesnt even need a Christian substitute.Really? Do you think Redemption is a cheap ripoff of something that didn't need a Christian substitute. I heavily disagree.
While sometimes this occurs, only Sith use absolutes.......
Also, what would you do? Go around and "save" people? You know what happens when a billion Christians of different denominations log into an MMORPG and attempt to save eachother? World War Five.I disagree that a good Christian MMORPG could never be made. No you wouldn't walk around and "save people". What about battling with the Nephilim? Awesome possibilities. The fact is: When something is labeled "Christian" it usually is poor quality. That makes me mad.
Andy:I completely agree with the minister. (Except Tobymac and Third Day really are awesome. ::) )
All of those bands are debatable.
LotR, not a Christian movie, Chronicles of Narnia, not a Christian movie, Left Behind, not a good movie. House is the only thing in that category that's really an exception. And for every House, there are a hundred C Me Dance (look it up, they're serious).
There are no good Christian video games. There are some ok ones, but nothing even close to even a mediocre console game.
colin, i can prove you wrong on that statement
Skillet, Tree 63, third day, jars of clay, thousand foot crutch, barlow girl, toby mac, hawk nelson, want me to keep going on christian music?
lord of the rings, chronicles of narnia, left behind, i could go on forever on christian movies
Victory at hebron is the only christian video game that comes to mind.
but point being, your very wrong and your just gonna be more wrong the more ya post stupid stuff like ya just did
believes part of the Bible actually.He believes the Bible. He just doesn't think that God himself wrote it. God-inspired men who ARE subject to mistake wrote the Bible.
Anyway, back on topic. Unfortunately, there really aren't any Christian MMORPGs. Sounds like a good idea though.
God didn't write the Bible. Everyone knows that.believes part of the Bible actually.
Anyway, back on topic. Unfortunately, there really aren't any Christian MMORPGs. Sounds like a good idea though.
yah i would like to see one made... OH! even better! a redemption MMORPG! you can play as a character from the bible and you can buy weapons from the game of redemption.... like davids sling, hammer of heaven, angels sword, battle axe, mace, ect,.believes part of the Bible actually.He believes the Bible. He just doesn't think that God himself wrote it. God-inspired men who ARE subject to mistake wrote the Bible.
Anyway, back on topic. Unfortunately, there really aren't any Christian MMORPGs. Sounds like a good idea though.
Back on topic.
ok so how are you gonna make the bible if God didnt write it? then that would make the bible a lie and it is not.
lets not make this a debate we all know who wrote it end of story. >:(
lets not make this a debate we all know who wrote it end of story. Angrywhich just demonstrates that you can't respectively argue or debate.
lets not make this a debate we all know who wrote it end of story. >:(
While sometimes this occurs, only Sith use absolutes.......
Anyway, back on topic. Unfortunately, there really aren't any Christian MMORPGs. Sounds like a good idea though.
QuoteWhile sometimes this occurs, only Sith use absolutes.......
Ah! Worst line ever!
QuoteWhile sometimes this occurs, only Sith use absolutes.......
Ah! Worst line ever!
Don't hate on the line....
+1 -> :kenobi: :kenobi: :kenobi: :kenobi: :kenobi: :kenobi:QuoteWhile sometimes this occurs, only Sith use absolutes.......
Ah! Worst line ever!
Don't hate on the line....
Bands that have made it into the secular world with being noticed as christian one... FLyleaf, Underoath and others...They were "good" enough to make it into the secular world. They then left the Christian world to play in the secular world (upon which Spencer Chamberlain started the whole drug thing again, but hey, there's nothing non-Christian about doing drugs).
I like christian bands. thats all i wanted to say.
Colin, we've been over this. There has to be a world war three and a world war four before there can be a world war five.No Daniel, see, that's the beauty of World War Five. It's so big, it just skips right over the other two.
Ask Colin! Unless his beliefs have changed recently, he can tell you what I have stated! Why should we debate about Colin's beliefs when he can tell you??Quote from: Da Muzic Makerlets not make this a debate we all know who wrote it end of story. >:(I like watching 11 year olds 14 year olds fail at debating.
i can debate if i want to, i think any one can debate if they want to! but the question is, do you want to? is this something to debate about? drb let me ask you this when you said what you said here it is.He believes the Bible. He just doesn't think that God himself wrote it. God-inspired men who ARE subject to mistake wrote the Bible.
Back on topic.
at the ending part, when you said "back on topic" after "He believes the Bible. He just doesn't think that God himself wrote it. God-inspired men who ARE subject to mistake wrote the Bible." wouldnt that then make it to wher you arent good at debating either? since its obvious you only said "back on topic" cause you arent good at debating, and, you wanted to stop right ther so you wouldnt lose? ???
1. Christian Music is in fact typically of poorer quality than secular.o_O i think most christian music is good..... Tobymac,Dc Talk,Casting Crowns,Petra,Kutless and others......... oh! and Numa Numa ;D Edit: stellar kart,hawk nelson......
I can confidently state this fact for the simple reason that it the majority of them were as good as secular musicians, they would have at least been offered secular contracts and then turned them down based on their beliefs. However, examples of this are few and far between. Combine this with having to say Jesus, God, and Amen every song, and you get what typically becomes poorer quality music. And Andy, listing off bands like that does not prove anything other than that you like those bands.
o_O i think most christian music is good..... Tobymac,Dc Talk,Casting Crowns,Petra,Kutless and others......... oh! and Numa Numa ;D
where's Kutless & casting crowns? ???o_O i think most christian music is good..... Tobymac,Dc Talk,Casting Crowns,Petra,Kutless and others......... oh! and Numa Numa ;D
Thats a mighty thin list. ;)
I'll list ALL of the truely good Christian music I can think of:
Neal Morse
Theocracy
Harmony
Supertones
Tobymac
DC Talk
Supertones
Petra
Newsboys
Demon Hunter
Skillet
Stryper
TFK
Phil Keaggy
Audio Adrenaline
White Heart
Pillar
18 bands are all I can really think of... compared to the 43 nonchristian bands in my iTunes that I listen to frequently.
I don't really listen to them.oh yea i forgot them. I KNOW ITS ALREADY OVER!
OH, I forgot one. RED is good as well.
I still say citing specific bands as "good" is just making a list of favorites. There really needs to be some outside comments from non-christians and christians alike confirming that so and so is a good musician.
Colin, we've been over this. There has to be a world war three and a world war four before there can be a world war five.No Daniel, see, that's the beauty of World War Five. It's so big, it just skips right over the other two.
colin, i can prove you wrong on that statementEPIC. FAIL.
Tree 63, barlow girl
left behind
Victory at hebron
yeah they are but why did ya even bother editing mine, LN?colin, i can prove you wrong on that statementEDITING QUOTES EPIC. FAIL.
Tree 63, barlow girl
left behind
Victory at hebron
He didnt add anything, he just took out other stuff to reveal the fail.tree 63 is NOT fail.
Andy, everyone has opinions. Don't flame people for having opinions. You'll have a miserable life if you do, because truth is, no one is going to have the same opinion as you, so deal with it.He didnt add anything, he just took out other stuff to reveal the fail.tree 63 is NOT fail.
if he thinks they fail then he's seriously mistaken and he fails for it
not to be rude but who do you think you are, telling me that?Andy, everyone has opinions. Don't flame people for having opinions. You'll have a miserable life if you do, because truth is, no one is going to have the same opinion as you, so deal with it.He didnt add anything, he just took out other stuff to reveal the fail.tree 63 is NOT fail.
if he thinks they fail then he's seriously mistaken and he fails for it
Lots of people don't like LeCrae and Tobymac, but I have never been offended by a difference in opinion.not to be rude but who do you think you are, telling me that?Andy, everyone has opinions. Don't flame people for having opinions. You'll have a miserable life if you do, because truth is, no one is going to have the same opinion as you, so deal with it.He didnt add anything, he just took out other stuff to reveal the fail.tree 63 is NOT fail.
if he thinks they fail then he's seriously mistaken and he fails for it
it offended me when he listed tree 63 is fail.
Then please pratice that and don't flame people who watch Family Guy.
There are an extreme lack of good christian bands that aren't a complete and utter rip off of some other band.
It all about what's popular and the bands who want to be known/popular/trying to get a message out
It all about what's popular and the bands who want to be known/popular/trying to get a message out
I would say that if they wanted to be recognized, best thing to do would be original. IMO, original bands are always much more interesting to listen to than copycats.
Does that mean they shouldn't play?Yes.
Sorry but yes. if the music sounds the same at least have original lyrics. If they have neither, why clog up the air waves with um?QuoteDoes that mean they shouldn't play?Yes.
I'm pretty sure Daniel and I have both said to musical associates (though not to each other too much) "that sounds too much like _____ song". There's been times that we have also said "do an Edge like riff here", "do a Beatlesque fill here", or "do a Beach Boys harmony here". I think most of the rip off worry has to do with the progression of the song than the feel of the song.QuoteDoes that mean they shouldn't play?Yes.
we should go back to the good old days where everyone was original you had only a few major bands but they were the good ones (Circle jerks, K.I.S.S., Grateful Dead,Rolling stones and of course Queen.) Now I'm not saying I endorse these bands for their lovely christian lyrics I endorse them for the sound they createdOr we could just all forsake the corporate music scene and embrace the innovations of the independent music community.
I can name at least one christian band that is WAY better than any secular band out there, DC Talk.
I think there should be a christian mmorpg based on some of ted dekker's booksThat'd be a bit hard to pull off due to the need to have "god mode" level characters that couldn't die, I guess NPCs would do but they lead the battles so...
what about one based on narniaThat wouldn't be any more of a Christian RPG than a Lord of the Rings RPG.
what about one based on narniaThat wouldn't be any more of a Christian RPG than a Lord of the Rings RPG.
(but what genre doesn't have lame stuff?)
(but what genre doesn't have lame stuff?)
Progressive Metal?
And how is that any different than Tolkien (who led C.S. Lewis to Christ and wrote the Lord of the Rings with the same purpose).what about one based on narniaThat wouldn't be any more of a Christian RPG than a Lord of the Rings RPG.
You would be right............except that The Chronicles of Narnia are written by CHRISTIAN author C.S. Lewis who based his books upon biblical stories, for example Aslan representing Jesus and his perfect sacrifice on the cross in The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe.
There is good Christian Music. Newsboys, Kutless, Mae, DC Talk, Chris Tomlin, Third Day...etc. There is some lame stuff (but what genre doesn't have lame stuff?)See, many of us think that to be lame stuff.
There are plenty of progressive metal bands that are horrible. I can't think of a quick example off the top of my head though.(but what genre doesn't have lame stuff?)
Progressive Metal?
See, many of us think that to be lame stuff.
Well it sounds like you are saying narnia and LotrR are barely if at all Christian.And how is that any different than Tolkien (who led C.S. Lewis to Christ and wrote the Lord of the Rings with the same purpose).what about one based on narniaThat wouldn't be any more of a Christian RPG than a Lord of the Rings RPG.
You would be right............except that The Chronicles of Narnia are written by CHRISTIAN author C.S. Lewis who based his books upon biblical stories, for example Aslan representing Jesus and his perfect sacrifice on the cross in The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe.QuoteThere is good Christian Music. Newsboys, Kutless, Mae, DC Talk, Chris Tomlin, Third Day...etc. There is some lame stuff (but what genre doesn't have lame stuff?)See, many of us think that to be lame stuff.
I'm simply saying that a Lord of the Rings RPG isn't a "Christian" RPG, it's a "Lord of the Rings" RPG. The same thing with Narnia.Well it sounds like you are saying narnia and LotrR are barely if at all Christian.And how is that any different than Tolkien (who led C.S. Lewis to Christ and wrote the Lord of the Rings with the same purpose).what about one based on narniaThat wouldn't be any more of a Christian RPG than a Lord of the Rings RPG.
You would be right............except that The Chronicles of Narnia are written by CHRISTIAN author C.S. Lewis who based his books upon biblical stories, for example Aslan representing Jesus and his perfect sacrifice on the cross in The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe.QuoteThere is good Christian Music. Newsboys, Kutless, Mae, DC Talk, Chris Tomlin, Third Day...etc. There is some lame stuff (but what genre doesn't have lame stuff?)See, many of us think that to be lame stuff.
And who is "many of us"?
well there are also many of us who like it.There are also many people who like the Jonas Brothers.