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This is my first real attempt at T2 and will hopefully get all the cards I need for it in RL by the summer so SK and the gang can have some fresh blood down south.

Cards in deck: 127
Lost Souls: 17
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (punisher)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (same reference)
   Lost Soul (same reference)
   Lost Soul (shame)
   Lost Soul (shame)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 9
   Headquarters at Riblah
   Headquarters at Riblah
   Obadiah's Caves
   Obadiah's Caves
   Raiders' Camp
   Storehouse
   Storehouse
   Wall of Protection
   Wall of Protection

Artifacts: 8
   Gifts of the Magi
   Gifts of the Magi
   Hidden Treasures
   Hidden Treasures
   Priestly Breastplate
   Priestly Breastplate
   Unholy Writ
   Unholy Writ

White Covenant Cards: 4
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Go Into Captivity (Crimson)
   Go Into Captivity (Crimson)
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)

Blue Covenant Cards: 3
   Covenant of Noah
   Covenant of Noah
   Covenant of Noah

Multi-Color Heroes: 2
   Jeremiah (Green/Teal)
   Zechariah (green/teal)

Green Heroes: 15
   Aaron
   Aaron
   Habakkuk
   Habakkuk
   Hur
   Hur
   Joel
   Joel
   Micah
   Micah
   Midwives
   Miriam
   Nahum
   Nathan
   Obadiah

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 2
   Trumpet Blast (Teal)
   Trumpet Blast (Teal)

Green Hero Enhancements: 18
   Habakkuk Stands Watch
   Habakkuk Stands Watch
   Increasing Numbers
   Increasing Numbers
   Plague of Frogs
   Plague of Frogs
   Plague of Frogs
   Plague of Frogs
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Search
   Search
   Swords into Plowshares
   Swords into Plowshares
   Two Bears
   Two Bears
   Visions
   Visions

Crimson Evil Characters: 19
   Arioch
   Ashpenaz
   Ashpenaz
   Babylonian Forces
   Babylonian Forces
   Babylonian Forces
   King Evil-merodach
   King Merodach-baladan
   King Merodach-baladan
   Nebuchadnezzar
   Nebuchadnezzar
   Nebushasban
   Nebuzaradan
   Nergalsharezer
   Nergalsharezer
   Prophets of Baal
   Prophets of Baal
   The Imperial Guard
   The Imperial Guard

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 21
   Axe
   Axe
   Carried into Exile
   Carried into Exile
   Carried into Exile
   Desecrate the Temple
   Desecrate the Temple
   Head of Gold
   Head of Gold
   Head of Gold
   Head of Gold
   Imitating Evil
   Imitating Evil
   Nebuchadnezzar's Pride
   Nebuchadnezzar's Pride
   Nebuchadnezzar's Pride
   Set Fire
   Set Fire
   Swift Horses
   Swift Horses
   Swift Horses

God Bless

1) Priestly Breastplate might work out for you, but one of the best strategies in Green/Teal is to use Jeremiah or Zechariah with Hidden Treasures, then use Burning Incense. To use Zechariah, you either need HoH or Altar of Incense up so it isn't negated. Altar of Incense makes BI CBN, so it would get around Priestly Breastplate.

That's true.  I was going over Bubbleboy's T2 post and read that ignores are a big thing (which is why I wanted a high priest to put the breastplate on).

2) In T2, you can have up to five of any character or enhancement in a deck of any size, except multicolor, and you can have three of any Artifact, Curse, Covenant, or Fortress. 1 per 50 only applies to SA Sites and LS's.

Sweet .  I guess I misread that rule as the same duplicate rule as T1.  I'll lower the deck when I have time this week.

3) I'm not a type 2 player myself, but I'm pretty sure the deck is way too big to be competitive. Also, think of all the cards you have just one of. With only two searches, you will rarely if ever draw those cards. Go for smaller, and more streamlined deck construction. Most T2 players I know adhere to the philosophy that you have 3-5 different enhancements, and between 2-5 copies of each of them, for offense and defense.

I know they recommend being in the lower hundreds.  I will be lowering it as soon as I get some free time.

Thanks for the advise.

Overall (knowing that my main strategy is shuffling and capturing), any advise?






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I am in the process of cutting it down to 127 (cutting cards has always been my weak point ).  I will probably add either another Hur or another gifts (since I do have multiple searches and Midwives).

The main reasons I wanted to splash a little teal in is to have Z temp for an extra artifact slot and Trumpet Blast to discard evil fortresses.  I was thinking of a combo with Ezra and all my captures but probably will take him out in the end.  As of right now, I do have Haggai to search for Z temp (if I don't use one of my searches) and Zechariah/Jeremiah as the two heroes that can use teal (only have Trumpet Blast and Burning Incense (since my green Aaron can hold Priestly Breastplate and I could have Alter Of Incense in Z temp).  Should I just completely ditch Z temp?

MY defense will mainly be capture with reaccurance (Imitating Evil) and enough fortress destroyers to be able to take care of protection forts (a couple of set ires and a couple of axes (so I should draw one of them quick enough).

Does that sound good?  I will try to finish it this week so I can post an updated deck.

Thanks for the help.

No one wants to give any advise? 

I am not well versed in a T2 green offense but I do know that Provisions is amazing.  Jeremiah and Habakkuk make it even better because they get around one of it's counters, KotW.

On defense I'd use more Swift Horses.  The one Apprehended should be another Carried Into Exile or Head of Gold.

I took out one Two Bears and one Search to add two provisions.  I also took out Apprehended for one more swift horse (since I already have four HOG and three carried).

While starting to morph my T1 deck into T2, I noticed that I still had Altar Of Incense in my T2 deck.  I only had it in to se with Z Temp.  I switch both of them out for two Unholy Writ.

Thanks for the advise.

Anymore advise?

If you really want to get the Hur + Gifts combo, you probably need at least one more Hur, otherwise you'll likely not draw him very often.

Funny you should mention that.  While I was going through my cards this morning to see which cards I need to trade for, I notice that I left Haggai in (he was for my Z-temp support that was taken out when I reduced the deck size).  I switch him out for another Hur.  Thanks .

Any other advice?  How do my artifacts/curses/covenants look?

Are you going to be using Captured Ark as an enhancement or an artifact? If the latter, you may want to add another to help guarantee you'll get the effect sometime during your games.

I never use curses/covenants as enhancements.  I was thinking of adding another one to help against Blue Tassel but wasn't sure what to take out?  Do you think I should only have two Go Into Captivities so I could add another CA?

I'd suggest some artifact destruction. 1 blue tassels hurts your defense really bad.

That is one of my two major weaknesses (the other one is a strong angel offense).

I do have two Desecrate the Temple, DON, and a CA (soon to be two once I figure out what I want to sacrifice for it) to take care of active Blue Tassels (and have three Neb pride in case I can't get past their protection from capture).  I also have two The Imperial Guard to have a chance to discard an inactive BT.

What would you recommend I add to take care of Blue Tassel?

Congrats!  Well done!  It looks like all your hard work to prep your deck paid off.