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For some they may not want to buy 50 more sleeves to accommodate 5 more slots.

Kirk

But you should buy those sleeves anyway, because some of them will eventually break.

Quote from: The Guardian on June 27, 2013, 01:52:40 PM

For those who prefer 100, what is your thought process behind not including those last 5 cards?

I value both speed and power to accomplish my strategy. I've built plenty of 105 card decks for T2. Almost always, my 100 card decks out perform my 105 card decks. Part of the reason might be because they're more fine tuned. Part of it might be that there are less cards that don't accomplish my specific plan for victory. While there are more cards that a person can deck that might help any given strategy. I'm a firm believer that you don't need more than the minimum # required per deck to reach victory. Part of the reason this works best for me might just be my play style.

So you will risk disqualification then?(Get hint?)

Basic math:
Chance of drawing 1 card out of 100 when drawing only 1 card: 1%
Chance of drawing 1 card out of 105 when drawing only 1 card: 0.95%

So you have one half of a percent better chance of getting your Son of God when you attack with Peter if your deck is only 100 cards.

Based on all 100 cards still being in your deck, of course, which means Peter couldn't be attacking. But yeah.

I'd say not negligible but not significant overall either.

Don't forget that 100 with 2 hoppers is really an 84 card deck, compared with maybe a 105 with no hoppers (a 91 card deck).  And then after the initial D8, the percentage spread increase even more.

That's a fair point, and I can see the difference there being meaningful.

Perhaps we can post a few decks on this thread and discuss how they might perform whether they were at 105 (no Hoppers) or 100 (2 Hoppers).

For example, if Gabe posted one of his 100 card decks, there could be discussion on what the "last 5 in" would be and the degree to which adding those would make the deck stronger or weaker. I'll post one of my 105 card decks (I rarely use Hoppers in T2) and we could have a discussion on what the "first 5 out" should be.

Taking a look at Gabe's Deck I would add Magic Charms, Writ 2x, Two Thousand Horses, and Isaiah to make it 105.

Are FBTN LSs common in T2? If so, Hopper becomes less attractive.

Since T2 is played as "choose the rescuer" if there's a Lost Soul that's giving you a problem you can choose that one to rescue.

Hopper still slims your deck though. Even with fbtn soul the ability to create lost souls is so valuable that hopper should be included in every type two deck, even if you run fbtn souls yourself. The only exception to this rule is if your running sitelock.

Taking a look at Gabe's Deck I would add Magic Charms, Writ 2x, Two Thousand Horses, and Isaiah to make it 105.

The problem with the Writs is I'm pretty sure Gabe wants (and he'll correct me if I'm wrong) DD or CWD active all game. 

If I were adding 5 to Gabe's deck, I think I would add Provisions x2, Uzzah, Scattered and Holy Grail.

Provisions not only draws but if the opponent has some early LS drought, they could easily amass a defense that could hurt this offense. (Thinking Babylonians with mass capture after discarding Caves). Provisions would allow the player to choose his own Assyrian to block, and then set off PoJ which then takes out the key parts of the opponent's defense.

Uzzah ensures that the extra copies of Darius' Decree don't go to waste.

Scattered is probably a staple in T2 now.

Holy Grail for reasons similar to Provisions. If your opponent has a nasty EC like Nergal who could do serious damage to this smaller offense, whip out the Grail.

I was not suggesting that adding 5 cards would automatically improve his deck. I was wanting to discuss what cards might improve his deck by giving him some other options while only adding 5 cards. I almost couldn't come up with a 5th card because I couldn't think of a Site he needed or an Artifact he would want active other than Decree or CwD. Holy Grail seemed a good fit because you only use it twice so he's still going to have one of the others active for most of the game.

Some decks are going to perform better at 100 cards while others need those few extra cards to maximize effectiveness. I have some 105 card decks that I have literally stared at for an hour trying to think of how I could get it down to 100. I think once I managed to cut one of them down to 102. 

I will try to post a 105 deck sometime next week and people can offer their ideas for cutting it down to 100. 

I agree with others that have said it mostly comes down to playstyle, and depends somewhat on strategy. I used 105 in my Jeepers Creepers deck, simply because with 14 sites, I didn't have a lot of room for the offense or defense I needed to make sure I could win (I even had it at 112 when I took 2nd at Nats in 2011). My Panic Demons deck last year also had 112. Recently I have been trying to keep decks at the minimum, but it is often very difficult to balance necessary speed with necessary power.