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T2 Sitelock
« on: August 30, 2009, 11:51:58 PM »
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This is the second T2 deck I've built now. I don't know how popular sitelock is in T2, but I thought I'd give it a stab, and it looks like it would be pretty effective if I could get it perfect. I'm interested in hearing comments and suggestions about this. :)

Cards in deck: 119 (41/39/39)

Neutrals: 41
Lost Souls: 16
   Lost Soul (1st round) x2
   Lost Soul (Anti-burial)
   Lost Soul (Anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (Female Only) x2
   Lost Soul (N.T. only) x2
   Lost Soul (Punisher)
   Lost Soul (Site doubler) x2
   Lost Soul (Speed Bump)
   Lost Soul (Thorns) x2
   Lost Souls (3-line) x2

Sites: 16
   Ashdod x2
   Babylon x5
   Babylonian Banquet Hall x2
   Banks of the Nile/Pharaoh’s Court
   Hormah x2
   Kir x2
   Pergamum x2

Artifacts: 9
   Chariot of Fire
   Darius' Decree x3
   Golden Calf x2
   Samaritan Water Jar x3

Good Cards: 39
Gold Heroes: 8
   Martha x2
   Simeon
   The Generous Widow
   The Thankful Leper
   The Woman at the Well x3

Gold Hero Enhancements: 9
   Meeting the Messiah x5
   Repentance and Restitution x2
   Vengeance of Eternal Fire x2

Silver Heroes: 6
   Angel of the Harvest
   Angel of Warning
   Atteding Angel
   Captain of the Host
   Gabriel
   Michael

Silver Hero Enhancements: 5
   Protection of Angels
   Striking Herod x2
   The Book of Life x2

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 1
   The Stars

Covenants: 2
   I am Holy x2

Good Fortresses: 5
   Chamber of Angels x2
   House in Bethany x2
   Wall of Protection

Lamb Dominants: 3
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Son of God

Evil Cards: 39
Black Evil Characters: 8
   Fallen Warrior x2
   Greek Philosophers x2
   Philistine Armor Bearer x2
   Philistine Garrison
   Philistine Priests

Black Evil Enhancements: 12
   Abomination of Desolation x3
   Danites Attack x4
   Land Dispute x3
   Wrath of Satan x2

Brown Evil Characters: 3
   Uzzah x3

Brown Evil Enhancements: 3
   Land Purchase x3

Multi-Color Evil Characters: 2
   Antiouchus IV Epiphanes
   The Winged Leopard

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Lying Unto God

Curses: 4
   Captured Ark (Crimson) x2
   Carcasses (Black)
   Confusion of Mind (Pale Green)

Evil Fortresses: 4
   High Places x3
   Kingdoms of the World

Grim Reaper Dominants: 2
   Burial
   Destruction of Nehushtan
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 08:33:48 PM by BubbleBoy »
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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 11:56:39 PM »
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Trust me, Green sites are so not the way to go. Prophets are fiercely popular in Type 2 (IMO) Gold or Red sites are much better. I played a 105 -35/35/35 at Natz this year with Gold sites and placed 6th, I lost to speed camp and an ANB shuffle deck. (Ironically enough the first and second place decks)
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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2009, 12:00:31 AM »
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Well I didn't think Gold was the way to go, because out of the five T2 games I've played so far, two of them have had Luke offenses. I think Gold is becoming much more popular now because of TxP. Also, if you'll notice, I do have red sites. ;)
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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2009, 12:05:51 AM »
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Right sorry I'm tired I saw the Babylonian Banquet halls and completely ignored the fact that you had Babylons' to make them work ;) Eh, TexP was good for Gold, but they still don't have a really reliable battle winner. They have really nice cards, but they're missing something still, Do I think they're viable, yes, do I think that you should worry, no. I think my defense last year could have held off a Gold Offence fairly well, mainly because Gold doesn't have a Cannot be Negated battle winner of any significance. Also, in the 13 or so games that I played with that deck last year I didn't see a single Gold offence ;)
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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2009, 12:16:45 AM »
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You need counters to demons.  House in Bethany is decidedly *Bleh*.  You need to Three nails x 2 or 3  or you need to use your angels to counter the demons with some "Victory" or other cards tat target demons.  On the gold side some Furnace's might be good.  Plus you need more counters to CTB offenses.  Golden Calf fixes King amazing but not much else.  One Kingdoms isnt gonna get it done.  I think Kir x 2 would be a good addition or another kingdoms or a Darkness.

you dont have any search cards that I can tell and not much speed power so you might want to ditch NJ because you probably wont ever get the chance to play them together in the same game.  Unless I am playing a search deck I never play with NJ, or Guardian.

and no philly outpost with all those Philistines?  tsk tsk tsk


But aside from that it is a GREAT idea.  You dont mind if I hijack this deck and make my own version of it do ya  ;)
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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2009, 12:44:24 AM »
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Sites: 14
   Babylon x12
   Babylonian Banquet Hall x2

1) You have a problem here.  In T2 you can have no more than five of any one card. That includes sites.

Of course I managed to play with a deck with Kir x14 for a year or so, before a check in judge pointed that out. Long story short--if you keep 12 Babylon, don't have Sir Nobody check your deck. ;)

2) You are going to have difficulties stopping artifact-based site access.

3) 11 EC's strike me as very light.  Especially given the lack of Philistine Outpost (crustpope is right about that) and Unknown Nation.

Just my thoughts about what could shape up to be a very nice deck.

Site lock used to be difficult to pull off in T2--much harder than in T1 IMHO--because a lot of the time you never got to use your evil mess-with-their-access enhancements. High Places removes that difficulty.

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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 12:47:13 AM »
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Of course I managed to play with a deck with Kir x14 for a year or so, before a check in judge pointed that out. Long story short--if you keep 12 Babylon, don't have Sir Nobody check your deck.

Yeah, I got owned by that at natz... I only had 10 Kir's though.... so I switched five to Jerusalem, Dangerous way and a Tree of Knowledge.
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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 04:55:08 AM »
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mainly because Gold doesn't have a Cannot be Negated battle winner of any significance.

 Egad!: Repentance and Restitution, Convincing Miracle, Thankful Leper! ...and Meeting the Messiah is good b/c territory class enhance are hard to negate.

..admittedly the last 2 are probably tough in a T2 game. but still... those are some pretty good cbns.  :)

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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 09:20:15 AM »
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You need counters to demons.  House in Bethany is decidedly *Bleh*.  You need to Three nails x 2 or 3  or you need to use your angels to counter the demons with some "Victory" or other cards tat target demons.  On the gold side some Furnace's might be good.  Plus you need more counters to CTB offenses.  Golden Calf fixes King amazing but not much else.  One Kingdoms isnt gonna get it done.  I think Kir x 2 would be a good addition or another kingdoms or a Darkness.

you dont have any search cards that I can tell and not much speed power so you might want to ditch NJ because you probably wont ever get the chance to play them together in the same game.  Unless I am playing a search deck I never play with NJ, or Guardian.

and no philly outpost with all those Philistines?  tsk tsk tsk


But aside from that it is a GREAT idea.  You dont mind if I hijack this deck and make my own version of it do ya  ;)
Right now, my big defense against demons is The Book of Life. Are that and Abom not enough? Thanks for the tips on NJ and Philly Outpost; I'll see if I can come up with an arrangement for those. And yes, you can hijack this if you want. :) (Just don't win against me with it or I'll be mad. :P)

Sites: 14
   Babylon x12
   Babylonian Banquet Hall x2

1) You have a problem here.  In T2 you can have no more than five of any one card. That includes sites.

Of course I managed to play with a deck with Kir x14 for a year or so, before a check in judge pointed that out. Long story short--if you keep 12 Babylon, don't have Sir Nobody check your deck. ;)

2) You are going to have difficulties stopping artifact-based site access.

3) 11 EC's strike me as very light.  Especially given the lack of Philistine Outpost (crustpope is right about that) and Unknown Nation.

Just my thoughts about what could shape up to be a very nice deck.

Site lock used to be difficult to pull off in T2--much harder than in T1 IMHO--because a lot of the time you never got to use your evil mess-with-their-access enhancements. High Places removes that difficulty.
1) Ah...crud. I thought I might have forgotten something like that. How many BBH's can I have then?
2) I was very worried about this, as I realized you can have up to three of every access art in T2. I was thinking if I could get some auto-block guys, Abom would take care of the rest, but I ended up not having enough room. ...I was thinking of bumping this deck up to make room for some Uzzahs and Land Purchases (and then would replace some Babylons with Ashdods).
3) I know, but I can't get rid of any of my EE's...

Thanks for the advice everyone! I will update later today, once I process all this.
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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 09:47:56 AM »
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1) Ah...crud. I thought I might have forgotten something like that. How many BBH's can I have then?
2) I was very worried about this, as I realized you can have up to three of every access art in T2. I was thinking if I could get some auto-block guys, Abom would take care of the rest, but I ended up not having enough room. ...I was thinking of bumping this deck up to make room for some Uzzahs and Land Purchases (and then would replace some Babylons with Ashdods).
3) I know, but I can't get rid of any of my EE's...

Thanks for the advice everyone! I will update later today, once I process all this.

1) LS and sites with a special ability are at the 1 per 50 rule so you can only have 2 BBH in your deck at this level.  Ashdod is a great addition and so it the new Kir x2 to prevent Choose the Blocker.  Pergamum x2 might be a good addition to prevent dragon raid and maybe Hormah x2 (but Hormah wont work if you add the Philly outpost so I would either put in one or the other)  Other sites I like are Jericho (teal) or Mildewed House.

2) uzzah would be good but if you go with anothe color defense your anti-ignore LS wont work.
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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 04:58:10 PM »
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No Vengeance of Eternal Fire? I would swap those out for Taking Wealth.

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Re: T2 Sitelock
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 08:34:51 PM »
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Deck Updated. Thanks for the advice everyone, I think it helped considerably. :)
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