Redemption Community Deck/T2 Infini-block combos

[Isildur]

The best way is to use Rehoboam, who cares about CSA because Rehoboam pops regardless of initiatve, then select Joseph and play DS+Stillness (later jubilee to recur stillness). That's probably the best way to infinite unless I missed something.

DS?

[The Guardian]

Drawn Sword--the one card that lets a Hero directly discard another Hero...

[Prof Underwood]

So our current infiniblocks are:

1 - Holy of Holies + Wandering Spirit + Trembling Demon + Gates of Hell [only works on heroes with numbers 7/4 or greater]
2 - Holy of Holies + Gomer + Scribe + Gib Trick (brown) + Proud Pharisee [more pharisees can be added to increase numbers]
3 - Holy of Holies + Book of the Law + Temple + Rehoboam + Placer Hero + Drawn Sword + Nehemiah [only works on single heroes]
4 - King Amon + King Manasseh (in discard pile) + Scattered [only works on banded heroes]
5 - Holy of Holies + Rehoboam + Joseph + Drawn Sword + Jubilee + Stillness [also only works on single heroes]

[Josh]

Drawn Sword--the one card that lets a Hero directly discard another Hero [anywhere in the Field of Battle]...

FTFY.  Razor could discard a hero in a sidebattle between two heroes.

[Mr.Hiatus]

It's great to have infini blocks, but I find a simpler quicker method to be most efficient. Rehobaum with Ezekiel, his enhancements, visions of Iddo, CSA and Imitating Evil to stall plenty of time for you to win, in theory that is. My deck now uses search and I use Forest Fire to hit their territory in a side battle, play DS or Visions and get back everything I just played. Now I still have battle winners for next turn and only need to recur a visions. So Ezekiel/Micah are your main heroes. Micah to constantly shuffle Visions and Ezekiel for obvious reasons. ProfU- although Micah does not get it directly back The offense usually has a Search in hand that you can pre block play, play in battle, or side battle Rehobaum to get that visions and use Micah again to get another. There are plenty of counters, but it is a simple way to infiniblock if one would want to.

[Prof Underwood]

ProfU- although Micah does not get it directly back The offense usually has a Search in hand that you can pre block play, play in battle, or side battle Rehobaum to get that visions and use Micah again to get another. There are plenty of counters, but it is a simple way to infiniblock if one would want to.

How do you get initiative to pull this off?
The first part is easy.  Block with Rehoboam while Holy of Holies is active to create the side battle.

But the second part is tricky (especially throwing in Forest Fire).
1 - Micah (8/2) + Search (2/1) = 10 attack.  How do you play FF & Visions of Iddo?
2 - Ezekiel (7/4) + Search (2/1) = 11 attack.  How do you play FF & Drawn Sword?

I assume that you put them in the side battle first (your control), and then put in another hero for your opponent to control who has an attack of at least 3 (for Micah) or 5 (for Ezekiel).  But how does Ezekiel survive the side battle if you use DS to target the hero in the main battle?  What does Micah do if your opponent interrupts VoI?

[Gabe]

Mark, Darius' Decree is a staple for every T2 deck. If you have that active your opponent cannot play any GE's in the side battle. As long as it's mutual destruction, you have initiative to keep playing.

Tyler is using Visions of Iddo the Seer after his "battle winners" to recur everything.

[Prof Underwood]

Mark, Darius' Decree is a staple for every T2 deck. If you have that active your opponent cannot play any GE's in the side battle. As long as it's mutual destruction, you have initiative to keep playing.

Ah, that was the missing piece.  Thanks.

So now our current infiniblocks are:

1 - Holy of Holies + Wandering Spirit + Trembling Demon + Gates of Hell [only works on heroes with numbers 7/4 or greater]
2 - Holy of Holies + Gomer + Scribe + Gib Trick (brown) + Proud Pharisee [more pharisees can be added to increase numbers]
3 - Holy of Holies + Book of the Law + Temple + Rehoboam + Placer Hero + Drawn Sword + Nehemiah [only works on single heroes]
4 - King Amon + King Manasseh (in discard pile) + Scattered [only works on banded heroes]
5 - Holy of Holies + Rehoboam + Joseph + Drawn Sword + Jubilee + Stillness [also only works on single heroes]
6 - Holy of Holies + Temple + Darius Decree + Rehoboam + Ezekiel + Search + Drawn Sword + Visions of Iddo [single heroes again]

[Mr.Hiatus]

You do not need HoH and A Temple to for block, that just stops the btn hero, which you could do on your RA so I would not use that, I like to keep the count low. Also Visions says all heroes so it's a block against a band too. Also I give them my Nathan and I use Micah to play whatever I want. Like I said, there are numerous stalls and counters, but the beauty of the Ezekiel cards are that they usually work against them.

[The Guardian]

Visions does not return Heroes in the main battle unless we changed the ruling about "in battle" only referring to cards in the side battle. Visions would need to say "Field of Battle" in order to return all the Heroes in the main battle, right?

[TheJaylor]

Mark, Darius' Decree is a staple for every T2 deck. If you have that active your opponent cannot play any GE's in the side battle. As long as it's mutual destruction, you have initiative to keep playing.

Ah, that was the missing piece.  Thanks.

So now our current infiniblocks are:

1 - Holy of Holies + Wandering Spirit + Trembling Demon + Gates of Hell [only works on heroes with numbers 7/4 or greater]
2 - Holy of Holies + Gomer + Scribe + Gib Trick (brown) + Proud Pharisee [more pharisees can be added to increase numbers]
3 - Holy of Holies + Book of the Law + Temple + Rehoboam + Placer Hero + Drawn Sword + Nehemiah [only works on single heroes]
4 - King Amon + King Manasseh (in discard pile) + Scattered [only works on banded heroes]
5 - Holy of Holies + Rehoboam + Joseph + Drawn Sword + Jubilee + Stillness [also only works on single heroes]
6 - Holy of Holies + Temple + Darius Decree + Rehoboam + Ezekiel + Search + Drawn Sword + Visions of Iddo [single heroes again]

We should have 6 people build these decks and play a double-elimination tourney and see who wins.

[TheHobbit13]

In 5 you don't need hoh because irl you just plot, trick, or infinite scattered everything that is BTN. If you absolutely needed a block you can still use part of the combo since Rehoboam is cbn with his fort and Drawn Sword is CBP.

In 1 you really need crown of thorns and temple or you can't really block much.

[Gabe]

Visions does not return Heroes in the main battle unless we changed the ruling about "in battle" only referring to cards in the side battle. Visions would need to say "Field of Battle" in order to return all the Heroes in the main battle, right?

Correct. I believe DS is for the main battle.

[TheJaylor]

In 5 you don't need hoh because irl you just plot, trick, or infinite scattered everything that is BTN. If you absolutely needed a block you can still use part of the combo since Rehoboam is cbn with his fort and Drawn Sword is CBP.

In 1 you really need crown of thorns and temple or you can't really block much.

I believe he'd be using the crimson Rehoboam since it would fit better with Babylonians which are required for DS if you're not expecting to have to have one of the 2 copies of Ezekiel in your deck out. It also makes Drawn Sword a lot more useful since you can play it defensively. I agree, HoH isn't entirely necessary because if you have Drawn Sword to begin with you should be okay but you can't use plot or trick.

[Josh]

I believe he'd be using the crimson Rehoboam since it would fit better with Babylonians which are required for DS if you're not expecting to have to have one of the 2 copies of Ezekiel in your deck out. It also makes Drawn Sword a lot more useful since you can play it defensively. I agree, HoH isn't entirely necessary because if you have Drawn Sword to begin with you should be okay but you can't use plot or trick.

In which case CBP LS x2 (staple anyways...), Invoking Terror x2, Nergalsharezer x a few, and even Asherah Pole/Queen Maachah would all help against FBTN.  Plus Queen Maachah banded to Rehoboam is a D2 instead of a D1 when GoJ is in play.   

[Alex_Olijar]

How is Gates of Jerusalem + Household Idols + King Rehoboam + Gabriel + In the Clouds + Hero 10/10 or high not on the list yet?

[The Guardian]

All these theoretical "infiniblock" combos, but yet no one trusted them enough to run at Nationals... 

[Mr.Hiatus]

I would have ran crimson green but it was not made yet. I do not trust decks that place a heavy reliance on setting up. And for Visions, I use Christian Suing Another, not Rehobaum for that.

[Noah]

How is Gates of Jerusalem + Household Idols + King Rehoboam + Gabriel + In the Clouds + Hero 10/10 or high not on the list yet?

As of right now this is the only one that's six cards, includes Gates, and works without having to have another combo to stop multiple heroes. With all the other combos on the list that use Rehoboam you would have to add another card to make him CBN. I think it's easier to set this up because you can use Angelic Guidance to get half the cards, and you can see what counters they might be keeping in their hand as an added bonus.

Also note that using HoH in any of the other Infinite Blocks from the list won't stop cards like Daniel or Isaiah's Call from negating Rehoboam and Amon. It would probably be better if you added Gates of Jerusalem to numbers 3, 5, and 6.

[Prof Underwood]

It would probably be better if you added Gates of Jerusalem to numbers 3, 5, and 6.

The problem is that without HoH, the enhancements won't work in those combos.  But you are right that really GoJ should be added to all these combos to deal with heroes like Daniel and "called" Isaiah.

So now our current infiniblocks are:

1 - Holy of Holies + Wandering Spirit + Trembling Demon + Gates of Hell [only works on heroes with numbers 7/4 or greater]
2 - Holy of Holies + Gomer + Scribe + Gib Trick (brown) + Proud Pharisee [more pharisees can be added to increase numbers]
3 - Holy of Holies + Book of the Law + Temple + Rehoboam + Placer Hero + Drawn Sword + Nehemiah [only works on single heroes]
4 - King Amon + King Manasseh (in discard pile) + Scattered [only works on banded heroes]
5 - Holy of Holies + Rehoboam + Joseph + Drawn Sword + Jubilee + Stillness [also only works on single heroes]
6 - Holy of Holies + Temple + Darius Decree + Rehoboam + Ezekiel + Search + Drawn Sword + Visions of Iddo [single heroes again]
7 - Holy of Holies + Temple + Household Idols + King Rehoboam + Gabriel + In the Clouds + Hero 10/10 or higher