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A big question I have, though, is what are some ways for gold to get around demons (besides three nails)?

Cards in deck: 119

Good: 43
Evil: 43
Neutral: 33

Lost Souls: 16
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (Color Guard)
   Lost Soul (Color Guard)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (same reference)
   Lost Soul (same reference)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 9
   High Places
   High Places
   House in Bethany
   House in Bethany
   Philistine Outpost
   Philistine Outpost
   Philistine Outpost
   Wall of Protection
   Wall of Protection

Purple Sites: 2
   Pergamum
   Pergamum

Artifacts: 15
   Darius' Decree
   Darius' Decree
   Gifts of the Magi
   Gifts of the Magi
   Household Idols
   Household Idols
   Samaritan Water Jar
   Samaritan Water Jar
   Samaritan Water Jar
   Three Nails
   Three Nails
   Three Nails
   Unholy Writ
   Unholy Writ
   Unholy Writ

White Covenant Cards: 3
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)

Gold Heroes: 16
   Elisabeth
   Elisabeth
   Good Samaritan
   Good Samaritan
   Good Samaritan
   Martha
   Martha
   Mary of Bethany
   Mary of Bethany
   The Generous Widow
   The Generous Widow
   The Thankful Leper
   The Woman at the Well
   The Woman at the Well
   Zaccheus
   Zaccheus

Gold Hero Enhancements: 18
   Ambush the City
   Ambush the City
   Battle Prayer
   Battle Prayer
   Convincing Miracle
   Convincing Miracle
   Furnace of God's Wrath
   Furnace of God's Wrath
   Furnace of God's Wrath
   Furnace of God's Wrath
   Highway
   Highway
   Meeting the Messiah
   Meeting the Messiah
   Meeting the Messiah
   Meeting the Messiah
   Repentance and Restitution
   Repentance and Restitution

Multi Evil Characters:  2
        Antiochus IV Epiphanes
        The Winged Leopard

Black Evil Characters: 13
   Greek Philosophers
   Greek Philosophers
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Garrison
   Philistine Garrison
   Philistine Garrison
   Philistine Garrison
   Philistine Priests
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Black Evil Enhancements: 16
   Abomination of Desolation
   Abomination of Desolation
   Bringing Fear
   Bringing Fear
   Bringing Fear
   Joseph in Prison
   Joseph in Prison
   Land Dispute
   Land Dispute
   Overwhelmed by Philistines
   Overwhelmed by Philistines
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Reckless Endangerment
   Reckless Endangerment

Demons are a tough cookie to crack. I use to run a demon defense, and even if my opponent had 3 nails it helped them maybe once, beings I had 5x Seven Sons of Sceva, 3x Captured Ark, and DON.

I found that demon defenses are character heavy (atleast mine was, I had 20 ECs lol). They don't have the greatest battle winners: Sinning Hand (easily stopped), an 0/3 "end the battle CBN", and then some negateable stuff. Splashing in a second color would work very well. Prophets seem to do pretty well beings they shuffle your opponent's deck, and demon users want their demons on the bottom of their deck.

So is splash basically the only way? Aren't there any gold cards that hurt demons?

Furnace is the only one I can think of to discard a demon.

I personally like using the white TGT ladies with the gold ladies for some serious damage from He is Risen, plus there's A Child is Born, and many recursion possibilities.  But Two Bears is very tempting...

I am trying to keep it one good brigade. I found a nice way to kill off a lot of demons for quite a few turns (plent of furnaces and high way (cost me a RA but would hurt them).

The temple is not only good in case they do have capture, but I cab have altar of dagon in it to be cannon fodder for CA.

As for a pole and HI, those will go out when I have a chance to change it.

Just watch out for Judas Iscariot if you are going to use an all gold offense. If you run into him you are done for.

Thats what Ambush the City is for.

Kirk

Breaking it down line by line

OUT

House in Bethany (helps against demons, but won't really help win a battle)

Every little bit helps (plus it's a mini Goshen for my heroes)

Wall of Protection (most CtB decks will use their own ECs to block and none of your characters really need protected too much)

I have WOP to stop them banding to my peeps.  Might take it out later.

Temple of Dagon (no one really captures evil characters)
A-Pole (you will never really get a chance to use this, most OT heroes use pre-block abilities)

Took them both out.

Household Idols (can be good, but Darius' Decree is much, much better)

HHI really helps Philistine Garrison

Most of the Gold enhancements except Meeting the messiah and a few Rep. and Rests (You need to splash in another offensive color)

As I mentioned afterwards, I'm going to keep it one brigade

Philly priests and Goliath (Not really that useful... add in more armor bearers)

Took out Goliath and added an armor bearer.  The priests I would like to keep for their second ability.

Overwhelmed by Phillistines (too situational with phillys)

Discard all heroes in battle is too situational?!?!?!  If you mean the CBN if purple hero is in battle, I'm planning on using this deck against decks I know uses purple.

Philly Chariots and Horses (initiative really doesnt help Phillys)

Why?

Reckless Endangerement (not needed)

Since I have high places in my deck for Abom, I figure I will add something else to use the fortress (and negating peeps like ET sounds like fun to me )

IN

Darius Decree x3

Added two

Bronze Laver x2

Maybe but I'm not bought on it yet

More Meeting the Messiah (probably 4 or 5)
More Armor Bearers

Done

Another Good Brigade

Nope

I would take out 2 converts for 2 Ambush the City's. Orange usually blocks you with a big band, you ambush the band and re attack. I would switch out Reckless Endangerment x2 for Devourer x2. I think you have too many fortresses, I would try to get the deck down to 112. You also have way too few EC's, especially for a 119, I play no less than 15, for a 100-105 card deck.

you have 1 card that isn't doubled that can be doubled. sigh...