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My first ever T2 deck! Yay!
« on: August 07, 2009, 01:26:32 PM »
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I decided I might as well try out T2, if nothing else on RTS for now. I’m a T2 n00b, so I would appreciate any advice at all. (I'm not even sure if I have all the deck building rules right.) :P Anyway, here’s what I have so far; feel free to bang it up as much as you feel necessary:

105 cards
41/41/23

Offense: 41

GC's: 15
Benaiah x2
Habakkuk
Hur
Joel
Micah x2
Midwives
Miriam
Nahum x2
Nathan
Saint Patrick

Jeremiah
Zechariah

GE's: 18
Abel's Sacrifice
Benaiah Snatches a Spear x3
Habakkuk Stands Watch x4
Plague of Frogs x2
Provisions x2
Search x3
Two Bears x2

Spiritual Warfare

Good Fortresses: 4
Goshen
Obadiah’s Caves x2
Wall of Protection

Good Dominants: 4
Angel of the Lord
Grapes of Wrath
New Jerusalem
Son of God

Defense: 41

EC's: 15
Fallen Warrior x2
Lot’s Wife
Philistine Armor Bearer x5
Philistine Garrison x3
Philistine Priests x2
The Twelve-Fingered Giant x2

EE's: 15
Bringing Fear x2
Land Dispute x3
Overwhelmed by Philistines x4
Philistine Chariot and Horses x3
Wrath of Satan x3

Curses: 3
Carcasses x2
Captured Ark

Evil Fortresses: 4
Kingdoms of the World x2
Philistine Outpost x2

Evil Dominants: 4
Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away

Neutrals: 23

Artifacts: 9
Chariot of Fire
Darius’ Decree x2
Gifts of the Magi
Hidden Treasures x3
Unholy Writ x2

Lost Souls: 14
Anti-Ignore x2
3-Liner x2
Female x2
Punisher
Shuffler x2
Exchanger x2
Speed Bump
NT x2
« Last Edit: August 22, 2009, 09:51:08 AM by BubbleBoy »
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Re: My first ever T2 deck! Yay!
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2009, 03:08:20 PM »
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Just looking over it quickly you may want to consider adding more site access...
I think you have 2 access heroes (nahum), 1 kinda access enh-habakk stands watch, 1 access site, and 1 access art. A dedicated type 2 sitelock will have few problems taking care of that. The habakk stands watch is a cool one, though. Since you're playing phillies you could throw in the land dispute to grab access to sites as well, plus more habakk stands watch.

king amon/manassah-cool combo but with only 2 cards out of 105, not likely to show up, plus doesn't go with the phillies. Both are fairly useless by themselves. I would consider subbing them out for more phillies. If you are using them to spur on the philly outpost, I would consider doubling them both (amon x2, man x2) so you will get that going sooner. You may want to consider replacing lots wife, but she's immediately useful and female, so that is good. Playtesting should tell you if it's worth it. In a sadducee deck I had her in, but eventually took her out for another sadd because the "specific country enhancements" like high priests plot were useless on her. You may run into the same problem with many of your philly specific enhancements.

AOC's will be plentiful and can cause (any) defense problems w/o protect forts, which your phillies will be vulnerable to. I would consider getting more counters to this (darius decree is good, but you only have 1, and arts are vulnerable to cap ark x3).

Lurking is a cool card, but can only be used once. I would consider putting in kingdoms of this world x2 to counter the many choose the blocker offenses and place 2 phillies in there and you're set vs the garden tomb as well.

Hope this was helpful.  :)

« Last Edit: August 07, 2009, 03:24:24 PM by slugfencer »

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2009, 03:24:42 PM »
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Advice taken, and deck updated. :) I didn't know how popular Site Lockout was, so I didn't take it into account too much.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2009, 03:28:38 PM »
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Advice taken, and deck updated. :) I didn't know how popular Site Lockout was, so I didn't take it into account too much.

Cool-I updated my post w/more suggestions after looking at it (didn't know I could update my own posts!).
Yea, site lockout may not be very popular, but you're bound to run into it and when you do and aren't prepared, it's trouble.  ;)

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 03:33:51 PM »
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Ah, yes, indeed. Deck updated again. :)
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 03:59:28 PM »
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Hmmm...
I would also consider replacing hunger and pride o simon (good cards) with more useful nasty philly enhancements. Recursion is powerful in t1, but less so and less needed in t2 since you get to throw in multiples of powerful cards (unless you're spamming up I am holy-that's fun).  :)

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 04:22:27 PM »
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I was thinking the same thing, but I guess I was too used to T1. :P Well, updated again. Anyone else have any advice? ::)
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Re: My first ever T2 deck! Yay!
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2009, 12:20:42 PM »
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fallen warrior is a good add
defence looks strong

needs more on offence:
it seems green is just hard to punch through for me sometimes
hidden treasures x3
tears for a friend or abel sacrifice xmore
provisions+shuffle your own guy is helpful especially if you got alot of unique guys on defence

definitely more darius decree

can you recover from your own ANB? does it help the overall deck any?
#s on benaiah being 4/5 with spears and bears is big too...

obadiahs cave is nice to have here good job overall
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 06:16:02 AM »
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/agree with Clift
I would take out A New Beginning, Sword of the Lord, David's Music, and Abel's Sacrifice x2 and put in Plague of Frogs x2, Repentance x2, and an extra Provisions. Just like Clift said, Provisions your guy, make them block with your Philistine Garrison, then you play Search and Plague of Frogs or Two Bears to shuffle him back in so that you still get a Lost Soul.

I would take out a Chariot of Fire for another Unholy Writ. You have 2 Midwives already so it shouldn't be a problem.

However, what is a problem is the fact that you have only 13 ECs. I would take out a Fortress and a Curse for 2 Fallen Warriors. That way you're up to 15 characters which will always help. I would also try and fit some Joseph in Prisons in if possible, but I don't know what to take out for them right now.

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 02:03:16 PM »
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Alright, thanks for the advice everyone; I appreciate it. :) I updated my deck, so see what you think now.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 02:06:53 PM »
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i am healing.

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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 02:22:29 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2009, 02:23:02 PM »
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ha u need that. then u dont loose ur heroes when u wrathamatizethem.

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2009, 03:12:04 PM »
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No, he doesn't need I Am Healing. One, he doesn't have any Gold heroes to play it on as an enhancement. Two, he has other artifacts that need to be active (Carcasses). And three, he has Chariot of Fire plus Midwives x2. That is plenty to keep his Heroes alive.

However, I think you only need 2x Obadiah's Caves/Philistine Outpost. They will still usually come out, but once they do, you don't need the extras. I know you can get rid of the Outpost to get another Philistine, but typically, you're going to discard a different one.

By taking the Caves out, I would put in another Swords to Plowshares. Extra protection against weapons and you only have 1 right now.
By taking the Outpost out, I would put in another Lot's Wife. Extra banding plus another Evil Character is never a bad thing.

I would like to see some more evil enhancements like some Joseph in Prisons, but right now, you don't have any more room.
Otherwise, looks pretty good.

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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2009, 03:48:49 PM »
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By taking the Caves out, I would put in another Swords to Plowshares.
The thing about SiP is that I don't want to lose my Philistine Chariots. I was considering even getting rid of the one I have. Are you sure about that?
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2009, 10:45:54 PM »
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I was thinking about that, but you only have 3 Chariots. If you want, you could take out the Swords to Plowshares for I Am Grace and take out an Obadiah's Caves and Abel's Sacrifice for 2x Plague of Frogs. That way it gives a battle winner for Midwives and Saint Patrick (since they aren't prophets).

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2009, 10:52:57 PM »
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That way it gives a battle winner for Midwives and Saint Patrick (since they aren't prophets).

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Actually, that is not quite right...but since you have been off the boards for a while I will forgive your ignorance.

Earlier in the year, gabe brought up a point about St patrick having prophetic visions that came true  so stp patty is a priest and prophet.
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2009, 02:50:55 AM »
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I check the REG before I posted that, that's why I said that.
I guess that's yet another error entry there.

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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2009, 08:13:55 AM »
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Deck updated a little. I'm feeling better about this deck, but I'm still not too confident.
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2009, 06:55:29 PM »
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Well the other GA type 2 guys posted so I have too.
GC's: 14
Benaiah-need more of him
Habakkuk
Hur-one out for benny
Joel
Micah x2
Midwives x2
Miriam x2-one out for benny
Nahum x2-Jeremiah
Nathan
Saint Patrick-Zechariah

GE's: 19-too much, do 18 enhs and add GOYS since you have search.
Abel’s Sacrifice x3-once you play this you will lose iniative i'd do more negates
Benaiah Snatches a Spear x2-  ^
Habakkuk Stands Watch x4-why 4? I would do 0.
Plague of Frogs x2-two more of these for Habakkuk Stands Watch
Provisions x2-2 more for Hababakkubbakkkukk
Search x3
Two Bears x2
Spiritual Warfare

Good Fortresses: 4
Obadiah’s Caves x2
Wall of Protection x2-you don't need 2 of these, maybe one at most. Take one out for storehouse or take this out and an evil card to make the deck smaller

Good Dominants: 4
Angel of the Lord
Grapes of Wrath
New Jerusalem
Son of God

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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2009, 02:20:02 PM »
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I took most of your advice except for a few small things, like I kept the Habakkuk Stands Watch's because they are my only site access.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2009, 07:45:12 PM »
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Update on this deck: I have the current version on RTS, and I just played my first T2 game ever with Slugfencer! ;D He had to leave, so we didn't get to finish, but I don't think his offense had a chance of breaking through my defense, and I had gotten rid of all his battle-winners and Philly Chariots with Harvest Time, so I probably would have trounced him, although he might have been able to lock me out with sites; I don't know how many he had. Anyway, I think I'm getting the hang of T2, and I'd like to play a few games with the regulars to get into the swing of things. :)
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2009, 09:54:37 AM »
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Deck Updated just a little.
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2009, 01:53:18 PM »
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Update on this deck: I have the current version on RTS, and I just played my first T2 game ever with Slugfencer! ;D He had to leave, so we didn't get to finish, but I don't think his offense had a chance of breaking through my defense, and I had gotten rid of all his battle-winners and Philly Chariots with Harvest Time, so I probably would have trounced him, although he might have been able to lock me out with sites; I don't know how many he had. Anyway, I think I'm getting the hang of T2, and I'd like to play a few games with the regulars to get into the swing of things. :)

Sorry I had to go, and you woulda beaten me easily no thanks to hidden treasures!  :P
That was fun and glad you like T2!  :)

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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2009, 02:12:30 PM »
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It really is just a more epic version of T1. The only thing I really don't like is having to choose which LS you rescue. Burial and SoG are even more awesome in T2, which is uncool because they were already OP in T1. :P
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