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Zeb abuse
« on: December 17, 2019, 02:24:38 PM »
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I know new set is coming, but wordering if anyone has used the Zeb-Joe-Goshen combo and how it worked.  Every card in the deck can be played immeadity, saying there is a character to play it on and there are no counters out.  Went for speed over anything else while trying to put at least a few blocks in there.  Advice welocme, thanks

LS:
Hopper
Covet
Orphans
Prosperity
Exile
Hunter
Remnant
Humble


Dom:
SoG
TSC
3W
Guardian
DoN
CM
Mayhem

Arts/forts/sites:
Goshen
Storehouse
Ark of salvation
Bable
Gates of hell
Egypt
Treacherous lands
Tree of knowledge
Book of cov
Endless tresasure
Blindness

DAC:
7 years plenty
2 by 2
Delivered
Forbidden fruit

Heroes:
Zeb
Joseph
Judah
Melchzidec PoC
Mid slaves
Enoch
3 visitors

GE:
Offering your son
Rev and awe
Faith
Faith of sarah

EC:
Deceiver
Red dragon
Abaddon the destroyer
Fallen star
Kot poc
The gods of this world
Messenger of satan
Serpent

EE:
Wages of sin

Reserve:
Cov noah
Cov adam
Faith issac
Abe decendants
Lacking prophecy
7 sons of scevia
Foreign wives
Damsel
Locust from the pit
Locust from the pit

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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2019, 02:48:50 PM »
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More CwD counters I am prett sure i came up with this combo and the problem i came against was CwD and delivered seems good too
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2019, 02:57:14 PM »
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Added treasures of war and delivered
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2019, 03:07:38 PM »
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 :)
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2019, 03:53:44 PM »
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No AotL?

And I’d highly suggest Ark of Salvation to protect Joseph and Zeb.
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2019, 04:17:58 PM »
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What is there to use angel on? I really want to fit ark, but unsure what to take out, either delivered or 2 by 2 or forbidden fruit...
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2019, 04:24:46 PM »
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Isn't it possible to block from hand with any Evil Character since the ignore is only targeting cards in play?
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2019, 04:41:42 PM »
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the evil character will still be ignored but the onl change would be that u can block so uh huh u can but u still have a disadvantage

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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2019, 04:43:17 PM »
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btw forbidden fruit sould be taken out for ark
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2019, 04:44:04 PM »
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another card to put in is fall of man
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2019, 04:49:21 PM »
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I figured i would end up holding angel most of the game or wasting it, sure an ec could enter battle but they are still cbn ignored, would rather have mayhem for a d6.

Took out fruit for ark and ends for enoch to better play delivered
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2019, 05:53:36 PM »
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Since you’re running unity Genesis heroes you definitely need Joe’s Silver Cup (PoC). And to get the set up (Joseph, Zeb, Ark) consider adding/substituting Faith of Noah (instead of Rev and Awe; can also be used as a battle winner and can target Storehouse too), Cov of Eden, AotW.

Also, what do you do to help protect souls from your opponent since you’re giving him unlimited initiative?  Consider adding Orphans soul instead of Prosperity, and new Melchizedek.
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2019, 06:49:51 PM »
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Quote from: Watchman on December 17, 2019, 05:53:36 PM
Since you’re running unity Genesis heroes you definitely need Joe’s Silver Cup (PoC). And to get the set up (Joseph, Zeb, Ark) consider adding/substituting Faith of Noah (instead of Rev and Awe; can also be used as a battle winner and can target Storehouse too), Cov of Eden, AotW.

Also, what do you do to help protect souls from your opponent since you’re giving him unlimited initiative?  Consider adding Orphans soul instead of Prosperity, and new Melchizedek.


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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2019, 08:59:41 PM »
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yeah this seems like a chump block defenses dream to block all day with

it also seems highly dependent on few heroes which means little hero removal on their side sets you way back..

not sure this is a problem offense or even top tier kind of cool i guess

ps doesn't rubble and dust/shipwreck/like almost any hero removal nuke this?
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2019, 10:23:02 PM »
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Babel/Coliseum/Fall of Man/Lacking Prophecy especially are musts
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2019, 07:07:26 AM »
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Added orphans and melchzidek and changed up reserve

Why fall of man? Just as a battle winner? Already have lacking prophecy and dont need to worry about doms in battle as joe protects zeb and goshen.  Would do joes cup but already have lots of other arts i would want up more like book and lacking prophecy

To block, they have to block from hand or from territory and not get killed by cov adam somehow and then block in a way thats not stopped by guardian, bable, orphans, or melchizdek.  Sure there are ways to stop it, but with how fast it moves and how hard it is to stop i think its a solid gimic deck.  Sure rubble and dust kills this or a few well timed doms before counters get up, but if they are using rubble and dust you have probably already won 😁 plus faith and faith of sarah can get them back, and abe decendants can get those cards back
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Re: Zeb abuse
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2019, 12:39:38 PM »
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Changed the defence, last one made no blocks and basicasly couldnt enter battle once cov adam was up.  Also found this offence needs maybe 2 to 3 turns to set up, so going with orange give me more powerful ec and gets around the conversion problem that would kill zeb.  Added forbidden fruit and tree of knowledge to get access to cov noah and adam faster, and can use it as a kill card on defense.  Would like to fit in more enhancements, like did God really say, hyprocrites proselytize, and destructive sin, along with the winged lepord and envy.  Also would like stone pillar at bethal to get more access to DoN now that i have fewer artifact killers and CwD, darius decree, and golden calf kill this deck.  Also, has anyone found locusts to be worth it? Figured it would be easy to get them out with abaddon and treacherous lands + gates and they can kill some low numbered ecs that give zeb trouble.  Advice welcome
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