Author Topic: Z-Temple - need it strong enough for Natz! <- Updated (again) (Read 11115 times)

Mageduckey · « **on:** March 19, 2009, 09:39:13 PM »

Total Cards: 56

Lost Souls: 8
Hopper
Revealer
Site Doubler
Site Discard
Wanderer
Shuffler
Anti-Angel
Female Only

Dominants: 5
SoG
NJ
Burial
CM
AotL

Fortresses: 3
Z-Temple
HQ at Riblah
Raider's Camp

Sites: 1
Hormah

Artifact: 2
Chariots of Fire <-- Not in yet, I need to find a card to take out for this
Priestly Crown

Curses: 2
Captured Ark
Go Into Captivity

Covenants: 2
Cov. with Phinehas
Cov. with Levi

Multi-Enh: 1
Lying Unto God

Multi-Enhancements (2 colored): 1
Renewing the Covenant

Green Hero: 1
Haggai

Gold Hero: 1
TSA <-- IF I'm able to get it from my dad

Teal Heroes: 5
Joshua the HP
Ahimaaz
Joiakim, Son of Joshua
Phniehas, Son of Eleazar
Joiada, Son of Eliashib
Eliashib the HP

Teal Enh.: 7
Jordan Interrupted
Filling Z-Temple
Burning Incense
Zeal for the Lord
Trumpet Blast
Grain Offering
Jehoiada's Strength
Sin Offering <-- Added so I can protect against hand/deck/fortress/site discard cards in my territory, as well as to wipe out their curse(s)

Crimson EC: 9
Nergalsharezer
Arioch
Red Dragon
Ashpenaz
Nebushashan
Archers of Kedar
Babylonian Forces
Gomer
King Merodach-Baladan

Crimson EE: 7
Carried Into Exile
Head of Gold
Treachery of Jezebel
Nebuchadnezzar's Dream
Belshazzar's Banquet
Swift Horses
Christian Suing Another
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*Edit: I've modified it now to have a slightly smaller defense. Please critique my deck so that it will be "Natz-ready". Thanks!

New Raven BR · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:44:30 PM »

ditch this deck and download rts and hamachi and join the Redemption Official Online Tournament

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:52:56 PM »

will you just shut up andy? That is not helpful advice. Don't just tell someone to "ditch their dec".

Now, I do say download RTS

I'll comment on your deck when I'm not on school. I like the look of it

New Raven BR · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:53:58 PM »

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on March 19, 2009, 10:52:56 PM

will you just shut up andy? That is not helpful advice. Don't just tell someone to "ditch their dec".

Now, I do say download RTS

I'll comment on your deck when I'm not on school. I like the look of it

well what do you expect me to say?! idk what's in his collection!

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:55:24 PM »

Definitely not ditch it! Make some suggestions or ideas. Not knowing his collection is no excuse for rudeness.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:57:06 PM »

i didn't say it to be rude

Captain Falcon · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2009, 11:28:25 PM »

Defense is too big. 17 cards is way too big; i'd say tune it down to 16, w/ 9 characters and 7 enhancements. Don't think of me as crazy; 9 and 7 is actually really good, when played right and w/the right cards. I've a crimson deck and, after changing my offense, i won the first tournament i played it in. As for the offense, you need chariot of fire. Why jephthah? If you can get your hands on one, you need a Joshua the high priest as well; replace him w/ jephthah. Cut down the enhancements to 8. Instead of purying the unclean, put in scapegoat, and for phinehas's spear, jordan interrupted.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2009, 07:45:14 AM »

Quote from: TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 on March 19, 2009, 11:28:25 PM

17 cards is way too big; i'd say tune it down to 16

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Red · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:05:44 AM »

make the defence bigger.

thestrongangel · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:13:55 AM »

Quote from: RED on March 20, 2009, 08:05:44 AM

make the defence bigger.

Why?

Gabe · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:33:32 AM »

I agree with TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 that your evil character/enhancement ratio is off. His suggestion of 9 characters and 7 or 8 enhancements is a good one. At least use 8 evil characters minimum. It looks like you probably have Arioch. Babylonian Forces is another decent addition. Same with Red Dragon.

If you have it or can get it Headquarters at Riblah is an importan card to use with a Babylonian defense.

A teal offense needs to have the Wanderer LS. Teal doesn't have much access to the female or NT LS so the exchange will help you make additional rescues.

Joshua the High Priest is one of the best teal characters. If you don't have one you should to try to get one. He's a relatively inexpensive rare.

Hope you find this helpful. Enjoy!

Red · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:45:52 AM »

i like defence that just it

crustpope · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:56:42 AM »

What about subbing out Raiders camp for HQ at Riblah? If could also be bait for your T-blast.

I dont like jepthah in this deck. I would sub in another z-temple priest I'd sub in altar of Insence instead of Cov of Phineas b/c it covers all your priests and haggai and not just the ones from the house of Eleazar, plus it makes burnign's incense CBN. Altar of insense up in a glorified temple (can Z-temple be glorified? I just realized that GotL says solomon's temple?) would be a nice combo.

Mageduckey · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:12:21 PM »

Quote from: TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 on March 19, 2009, 11:28:25 PM

Defense is too big. 17 cards is way too big; i'd say tune it down to 16, w/ 9 characters and 7 enhancements. Don't think of me as crazy; 9 and 7 is actually really good, when played right and w/the right cards. I've a crimson deck and, after changing my offense, i won the first tournament i played it in. As for the offense, you need chariot of fire. Why jephthah? If you can get your hands on one, you need a Joshua the high priest as well; replace him w/ jephthah. Cut down the enhancements to 8. Instead of purying the unclean, put in scapegoat, and for phinehas's spear, jordan interrupted.

I've switched PtU for JI, and have switched out Jephthah for CoF. I don't, however, have a Joshua the HP, but I might be able to get one. Who should I switch out for him?
I'm also working on the defence, but what are some good characters I should add? What are some enh. I can take out for the characters?
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Quote from: BrianGabe on March 20, 2009, 08:33:32 AM

I agree with TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 that your evil character/enhancement ratio is off. His suggestion of 9 characters and 7 or 8 enhancements is a good one. At least use 8 evil characters minimum. It looks like you probably have Arioch. Babylonian Forces is another decent addition. Same with Red Dragon.

If you have it or can get it Headquarters at Riblah is an importan card to use with a Babylonian defense.

A teal offense needs to have the Wanderer LS. Teal doesn't have much access to the female or NT LS so the exchange will help you make additional rescues.

Joshua the High Priest is one of the best teal characters. If you don't have one you should to try to get one. He's a relatively inexpensive rare.

Hope you find this helpful. Enjoy!

I don't have HQ at Riblah, or Joshua, or the Wanderer LS. I'm seeing if I can't get them from Tim at the tournament next Sat. (where I'm going to use this deck). Also, if I were to switch to a Babylonian defense, what are some good cards that I should add? What are some cards I can take away for the new cards? Thanks for the help!

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Also, wouldn't Cov. with Phin. be better than Altar of Incense? I ask because AoI protects all priests, but only from evil enhancement discards, where as Cov. w/Phin. only protects priests from the HoE, but it's from all evil cards, including dominants. So, which is better to have in this deck?

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2009, 03:04:43 PM »

Cov with Phin is my personal choice. Although Altar of Incense makes Buring Incense CBN, you are correct about Cov with Phin. It is the best IMO.

I would definitely try to get Joshua. He IMO is one of the best heroes in the game.

Mageduckey · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2009, 06:31:42 PM »

Question, though - is Burning Incense an offering? If so, then AoI would be better, since I can recur it with Joiada. So, is Burning Incense an offering or not? I would look it up in the REG, but my computer can't get to REG for some reason...

Thanks!

Gabe · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2009, 06:38:24 PM »

Burning Incense is not an offering.

Mageduckey · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2009, 06:42:28 PM »

That stinks. I guess I'll stay with Cov. with Phin. then. So, what else should I change to make it better (i.e., how should I change the defense)?

Captain Falcon · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2009, 07:21:39 PM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on March 20, 2009, 07:45:14 AM

Quote from: TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 on March 19, 2009, 11:28:25 PM
17 cards is way too big; i'd say tune it down to 16
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I mean, cut out one card out of the defense

Mageduckey · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:57:32 PM »

Which defense would be best for a Z-Temple deck (Babylonian, Egyptian, etc.)?

I guess I'm simply asking because I want to make sure I win.

Though, for the defense, what if I played a Brown defense w/site lockout? Or would that take too many cards? If possible, I MIGHT want to do a site lockout defense, just because it usually seems to work.

Again, thanks for all the advice!

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:08:14 AM »

Quote from: TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 on March 20, 2009, 07:21:39 PM

Quote from: BubbleBoy on March 20, 2009, 07:45:14 AM
Quote from: TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 on March 19, 2009, 11:28:25 PM
17 cards is way too big; i'd say tune it down to 16
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I mean, cut out one card out of the defense

Well, if 17 cards was way too big, you would want to take out more than just one card.

OMGOSH, TAHT EES SOOOOOO BIG! - *ding* - kk dat better.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:21:56 AM »

Quote from: Mageduckey on March 20, 2009, 10:57:32 PM

Which defense would be best for a Z-Temple deck (Babylonian, Egyptian, etc.)?

I guess I'm simply asking because I want to make sure I win.

Though, for the defense, what if I played a Brown defense w/site lockout? Or would that take too many cards? If possible, I MIGHT want to do a site lockout defense, just because it usually seems to work.

Again, thanks for all the advice!

nah.
i'd say stick with a simple deck with one color offense and one color defense cause you seem to be in-experianced

thestrongangel · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:36:06 AM »

You're inexperienced, Ravan -_-

New Raven BR · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:38:12 AM »

Quote from: Rrulez4theSA on March 21, 2009, 11:36:06 AM

i'm inexperienced, Ravan -_-

is that right? how sad

thestrongangel · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:40:03 AM »

I actually am inexperienced. But quit putting other people down so much saying things like, "don't try that cuz yur inexpeirienced."

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