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I would probably go up to 70 cards. You do not need AotL, and I would use GoW, FA, GoYs, and Burial.

Something anti-speed would help, IMO, like maybe DD, Cov. with Death, G-Calf, or RBD.

I agree, maybe a Speed Bump or a Punisher Ls.

I would probably go up to 70 cards. You do not need AotL, and I would use GoW, FA, GoYs, and Burial.

In a deck this big are Falling Away and Guardian that use full? I can add Burial but I don't have any more Grapes of Wrath.

Quote from: Nameless on February 24, 2012, 02:42:08 PM

Quote from: Red Wing on February 24, 2012, 02:39:09 PM

Something anti-speed would help, IMO, like maybe DD, Cov. with Death, G-Calf, or RBD.

I agree, maybe a Speed Bump or a Punisher Ls.

Or perhaps a Pigs LS. However, that would stop GoJ's draw.

I'll go with the speed bump. I don't want to have to many artifacts.

What should I add to get it up to 70?

FA is a good choices, but you definitely don't need GoyS.

I agree. FA is always nice, because if you draw it before your opponent's GoYS, that's one more rescue that he needs to make, but if you don't you can use it as fodder for Jezebel or The Bronze Laver. Speaking of which, you shouldn't use a defensive heavy deck without Laver.

Mono Brown is hard to pull off for a turtle as it only has two good battle winners (Plot and Trick).

I disagree. Aside from the fact that Plot is the best evil enhancement in the game (in T1), Wickedness of the Tenants functions as a superb CBP ITB battle winner, Desolate Gateways is brutal in turtle decks like this in the mid-to-late game, especially when paired with Plagued with Diseases and Broken Cisterns, both of which are disgustingly good ways to win games all on their own. In general though, mono brown doesn't need enhancements (despite having some strong ones) to form a strong turtle deck. It relies on decrease manipulation to limit the opponent, and that's not even counting what GoS can do.

Well that's just it, 4/6 of most standalone defenses is brown. Clearly brown has some auto-blocks (Uzzah, Plot, A Slave, Gomer [in a pinch]), often enough to set up a more expansive defense. Don't get me wrong, I use a pale green splash in my brown turtle deck, but brown can definitely work fine solo.

Updated

Out with,

New Jerusalem
Nazareth
Captured Ark
Confusion of Mind
Faithful Servant
Ahimaaz
Benedictus
Complainers
King Joram

In With,

Grapes of Wrath
Falling Away
Speed Bump
Golgotha
Hezekiah's Signet Ring
The Bronze Laver
Golden Calf
King Amaziah
King Jeroboam I
King Nadab
Assyrian Siege Army
Assyrian Archer
Assyrian Survivor
Death of Unrighteous
Two Thousand Horses
Forgotten History


Updated Version


Cards in Deck 70

Doms 6

Grapes of Wrath
Son of God
Angel of the Lord
Destruction of Nehushtan
Christian Martyr
Falling Away

Lost Souls 9

Female Only
N.T. Only
Exchanger
Matthew 8:34
Far Country
Site Doubler
Hand Discarder
Site Guard
Speed Bump

Sites 8

The Ends of the Earth
Golgotha
Samaria x6

Forts 5

Herod's Temple
Gates of Samaria
Gates of Jerusalem
Haman's Gallows
High Places

Arts/Covs/Curses 8

Lampstand of the Sanctuary
Book of the Covenant
The New Covenant
Josiah's Covenant
Hezekiah's Signet Ring
The Bronze Laver
Golden Calf
Plagued with Diseases


Heroes 2

Watchful Servant
King Amiziah

Good Enhancements 2

Resurrection
Lifting the Curse


Evil Characters 15

King Ahab
King Jehoash
King Omri
King Jeroboam I
King Nadab
Jezebel
King Manasseh
King Amon
Haman
The Amalekites' Slave
Gomer
Uzzah
Assyrian Siege Army
Assyrian Archer
Assyrian Survivor

Evil Enhancements 15

Death of Unrighteous
Two Thousand Horses
Forgotten History
Land Purchase
Threatened Lives
Broken Cisterns
Desolate Gateways
Breaking Jerusalem's Wall
Taking Naboth's Vineyard
Wickedness of the Tenants
Haman's Plot
Korah's Rebellion
Stiff-Necked
Gibeonite Trickery
Shimei's Malicious Curse

Why Golgotha without any NT ECs?

It's for EE recursion with Death of Unrighteous and Threatened Lives.