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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: Noah on February 24, 2012, 11:39:38 AM
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Cards in Deck 63
Doms 5
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of the Lord
Destruction of Nehushtan
Christian Martyr
Lost Souls 8
Female Only
N.T. Only
Exchanger
Matthew 8:34
Far Country
Site Doubler
Hand Discarder
Site Guard
Sites 8
The Ends of the Earth
Nazareth
Samaria x6
Forts 5
Herod's Temple
Gates of Samaria
Gates of Jerusalem
Haman's Gallows
High Places
Arts/Covs/Curses 7
Lampstand of the Sanctuary
Book of the Covenant
The New Covenant
Josiah's Covenant
Captured Ark
Plagued with Diseases
Confusion of Mind
Heroes 3
Watchful Servant
Faithful Servant
Ahimaaz
Good Enhancements 3
Resurrection
Lifting the Curse
Benedictus
Evil Characters 12
King Ahab
King Jehoash
King Omri
Jezebel
King Joram
King Manasseh
King Amon
Complainers
Haman
The Amalekites' Slave
Gomer
Uzzah
Evil Enhancements 12
Land Purchase
Threatened Lives
Broken Cisterns
Desolate Gateways
Breaking Jerusalem's Wall
Taking Naboth's Vineyard
Wickedness of the Tenants
Haman's Plot
Korah's Rebellion
Stiff-Necked
Gibeonite Trickery
Shimei's Malicious Curse
This deck is fun to play but I want to try and make it more competitive. Advice is Welcome. :)
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I would probably go up to 70 cards. You do not need AotL, and I would use GoW, FA, GoYs, and Burial.
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Something anti-speed would help, IMO, like maybe DD, Cov. with Death, G-Calf, or RBD.
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Something anti-speed would help, IMO, like maybe DD, Cov. with Death, G-Calf, or RBD.
I agree, maybe a Speed Bump or a Punisher Ls.
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Something anti-speed would help, IMO, like maybe DD, Cov. with Death, G-Calf, or RBD.
I agree, maybe a Speed Bump or a Punisher Ls.
Or perhaps a Pigs LS. However, that would stop GoJ's draw.
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I would probably go up to 70 cards. You do not need AotL, and I would use GoW, FA, GoYs, and Burial.
In a deck this big are Falling Away and Guardian that use full? I can add Burial but I don't have any more Grapes of Wrath.
Something anti-speed would help, IMO, like maybe DD, Cov. with Death, G-Calf, or RBD.
I agree, maybe a Speed Bump or a Punisher Ls.
Or perhaps a Pigs LS. However, that would stop GoJ's draw.
I'll go with the speed bump. I don't want to have to many artifacts.
What should I add to get it up to 70?
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FA is a good choices, but you definitely don't need GoyS.
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FA is a good choices, but you definitely don't need GoyS.
I agree. FA is always nice, because if you draw it before your opponent's GoYS, that's one more rescue that he needs to make, but if you don't you can use it as fodder for Jezebel or The Bronze Laver. Speaking of which, you shouldn't use a defensive heavy deck without Laver.
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Mono Brown is hard to pull off for a turtle as it only has two good battle winners (Plot and Trick).
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Mono Brown is hard to pull off for a turtle as it only has two good battle winners (Plot and Trick).
I disagree. Aside from the fact that Plot is the best evil enhancement in the game (in T1), Wickedness of the Tenants functions as a superb CBP ITB battle winner, Desolate Gateways is brutal in turtle decks like this in the mid-to-late game, especially when paired with Plagued with Diseases and Broken Cisterns, both of which are disgustingly good ways to win games all on their own. In general though, mono brown doesn't need enhancements (despite having some strong ones) to form a strong turtle deck. It relies on decrease manipulation to limit the opponent, and that's not even counting what GoS can do.
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The problem is, in turtles, you are going to need some early effective blocks to get those choke cards set up. So why not diversify, save the trees, and use the choke cards to finish them off? I didn't mean to come off like, "This deck will never win." I just ment it's a difficult defense to set up, but hey if he's playing turtle chances are he wants a good challenge anyways.
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Well that's just it, 4/6 of most standalone defenses is brown. Clearly brown has some auto-blocks (Uzzah, Plot, A Slave, Gomer [in a pinch]), often enough to set up a more expansive defense. Don't get me wrong, I use a pale green splash in my brown turtle deck, but brown can definitely work fine solo.
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Having played a 56-card Watchful Servant deck last year (smaller than yours here), I can tell you that Angel of the Lord is worth the slot. You never know what you are going to face, and if your opponent has one character that can stop WS, it will be worth it. I'd drop NJ, since you will need as many EEs in your hand as possible.
Is Benedictus for getting around Golgotha one time? I don't see a way to take Golgotha from the opponent when you play it, unless I don't remember what those Brown EEs do.
In case you later decide to, don't use Pigs LS. If your opponent has a Bronze Lavar in deck, they can keep cards in their deck to block WS forever.
I'd use Golden Calf instead of Confusion of Mind. King Amon can recur it too.
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Updated
Out with,
New Jerusalem
Nazareth
Captured Ark
Confusion of Mind
Faithful Servant
Ahimaaz
Benedictus
Complainers
King Joram
In With,
Grapes of Wrath
Falling Away
Speed Bump
Golgotha
Hezekiah's Signet Ring
The Bronze Laver
Golden Calf
King Amaziah
King Jeroboam I
King Nadab
Assyrian Siege Army
Assyrian Archer
Assyrian Survivor
Death of Unrighteous
Two Thousand Horses
Forgotten History
Updated Version
Cards in Deck 70
Doms 6
Grapes of Wrath
Son of God
Angel of the Lord
Destruction of Nehushtan
Christian Martyr
Falling Away
Lost Souls 9
Female Only
N.T. Only
Exchanger
Matthew 8:34
Far Country
Site Doubler
Hand Discarder
Site Guard
Speed Bump
Sites 8
The Ends of the Earth
Golgotha
Samaria x6
Forts 5
Herod's Temple
Gates of Samaria
Gates of Jerusalem
Haman's Gallows
High Places
Arts/Covs/Curses 8
Lampstand of the Sanctuary
Book of the Covenant
The New Covenant
Josiah's Covenant
Hezekiah's Signet Ring
The Bronze Laver
Golden Calf
Plagued with Diseases
Heroes 2
Watchful Servant
King Amiziah
Good Enhancements 2
Resurrection
Lifting the Curse
Evil Characters 15
King Ahab
King Jehoash
King Omri
King Jeroboam I
King Nadab
Jezebel
King Manasseh
King Amon
Haman
The Amalekites' Slave
Gomer
Uzzah
Assyrian Siege Army
Assyrian Archer
Assyrian Survivor
Evil Enhancements 15
Death of Unrighteous
Two Thousand Horses
Forgotten History
Land Purchase
Threatened Lives
Broken Cisterns
Desolate Gateways
Breaking Jerusalem's Wall
Taking Naboth's Vineyard
Wickedness of the Tenants
Haman's Plot
Korah's Rebellion
Stiff-Necked
Gibeonite Trickery
Shimei's Malicious Curse
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Why Golgotha without any NT ECs?
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Why Golgotha without any NT ECs?
It's for EE recursion with Death of Unrighteous and Threatened Lives.