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Judges/Philly Deck
« on: March 19, 2012, 09:09:15 PM »
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Any advice?

Cards in deck: 59
Lost Souls: 9
   Lost Soul (Anti Angel)
   Lost Soul (anti-burial)
   Lost Soul (Beggar)
   Lost Soul (Far Country)
   Lost Soul (first round)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (human)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Souls (3-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 3
   Judge's Seat
   Philistine Outpost
   Temple of Dagon

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   Dragon Raid

Artifacts: 5
   Altar of Dagon
   Chariot of Fire
   Magic Charms
   Priestly Crown
   Unholy Writ

White Covenant Cards: 1
   Captured Ark (Crimson)

Multi-Color Heroes: 1
   Samuel (Gold/Green)

Silver Heroes: 2
   Angel with the Secret Name
   The Angel Under the Oak

Gold Heroes: 4 5
Gideon
   Ibzan  Moses
   Jair
   Tola
                          Deborah

Green Heroes: 1
   David

Gold Hero Enhancements: 8
   Acts of Solomon, The
   Battle Prayer
   Deborah's Directive
   Ehud's Dagger
   Furnace of God's Wrath
   Plague of Flies
   Prayer and Fasting
   Samuel's Edict

Black Evil Characters: 7
   Fallen Warrior
   Goliath
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Garrison
   Philistine Priests
   Simon the Magician
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Black Evil Enhancements: 8
   Bringing Fear
   Denying Blame
   Devourer
   Foolish Advice  Joseph in Prison
   Land Dispute
   Overwhelmed by Philistines
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Pride of Simon
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Offline Redoubter

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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2012, 09:18:32 PM »
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Couple of things:

For Black interrupt, you should really consider Joseph In Prison to replace something else there.

As far as Magic Charms and Simon...I'm a bit confused as to how they mesh with the rest of your defense.

You should cut down on the GE, as not all of them are very helpful.  By removing some (like Bow and Arrow), you increase the chances of having a battle winner.  On that note, Ambush the City is very useful off the top of my head, especially with Angels.

In my experience, Ibzan is almost useless. His CBN Judges enhancements almost never helps, and he gets very poor initiative.  Replace him with Deborah for Female-Only LS access and another hero to play Samuel's Edict.  Also, Ehud makes a great deterrent to an opponent placing less useful EC in territory.  Finally, you need Moses in this deck.  He eats a lot of defenses (like stand-alones and self-destruct) and can get you 5 souls by himself, not to mention you can still draw with AUTO.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2012, 09:23:33 PM »
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Quote from: Redoubter on March 19, 2012, 09:18:32 PM
As far as Magic Charms and Simon...I'm a bit confused as to how they mesh with the rest of your defense.
Simon (Ap) is Black brigade, and is CBN against NT (several major offenses).  He can also hold Charms.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2012, 09:29:43 PM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on March 19, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: Redoubter on March 19, 2012, 09:18:32 PM
As far as Magic Charms and Simon...I'm a bit confused as to how they mesh with the rest of your defense.
Simon (Ap) is Black brigade, and is CBN against NT (several major offenses).  He can also hold Charms.

Without Joseph in Prisoner, Simon has little point.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2012, 09:31:54 PM »
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One thing I will say, I ran a Judges/Philly deck at my last tournament, and one thing that killed me was Nazareth. You either need to come up with a counter for that or something, cause when Nazareth was pulled, my defense was pretty much shot. And luckily for my opponent he got it out right at the beginning lol.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2012, 09:39:59 PM »
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Quote from: Tom Bombadil on March 19, 2012, 09:31:54 PM
One thing I will say, I ran a Judges/Philly deck at my last tournament, and one thing that killed me was Nazareth. You either need to come up with a counter for that or something, cause when Nazareth was pulled, my defense was pretty much shot. And luckily for my opponent he got it out right at the beginning lol.

AwSN can still exchange, as he negates sites.  In fact, a good way to stop it would be AwSN -> Joshua Promo to take Nazareth, but to be honest I wouldn't recommend adding that to deck.

The real problem you will have is Hezzy's Ring.  You need to make sure you put enough arty death in there or you will have a rather poor start to the game (mind, AUTO does care about either once you get started).
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2012, 09:46:02 PM »
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Quote from: Redoubter on March 19, 2012, 09:39:59 PM
Quote from: Tom Bombadil on March 19, 2012, 09:31:54 PM
One thing I will say, I ran a Judges/Philly deck at my last tournament, and one thing that killed me was Nazareth. You either need to come up with a counter for that or something, cause when Nazareth was pulled, my defense was pretty much shot. And luckily for my opponent he got it out right at the beginning lol.

AwSN can still exchange, as he negates sites.  In fact, a good way to stop it would be AwSN -> Joshua Promo to take Nazareth, but to be honest I wouldn't recommend adding that to deck.

The real problem you will have is Hezzy's Ring.  You need to make sure you put enough arty death in there or you will have a rather poor start to the game (mind, AUTO does care about either once you get started).
Taking Naz wouldn't help at all.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 10:00:09 PM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on March 19, 2012, 09:46:02 PM
Taking Naz wouldn't help at all.

For some reason I went back in time and wanted to put it in battle to negate it  :o

In any case, like I said, AwSN doesn't care about Nazareth, and then once you get going, AUTO just has to exchange with territory.

Your D, however...that will care.  A lot  ;D
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2012, 10:21:38 PM »
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made a few changes with all the advice.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 08:47:38 AM »
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I do not think that Tola will do you any thing. Who is he anyway.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 09:36:05 AM »
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Quote from: Nameless on March 20, 2012, 08:47:38 AM
I do not think that Tola will do you any thing. Who is he anyway.
This guy.



Altar of Dagon and Temple of Dagon are unnecessary unless everyone in your area plays WaterGarden or Luke/John.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 09:44:01 AM »
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Quote from: Redoubter on March 19, 2012, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: SomeKittens on March 19, 2012, 09:46:02 PM
Taking Naz wouldn't help at all.

For some reason I went back in time and wanted to put it in battle to negate it  :o

In any case, like I said, AwSN doesn't care about Nazareth, and then once you get going, AUTO just has to exchange with territory.

Your D, however...that will care.  A lot  ;D
That is, if anyone plays Naz.  I didn't see it at all at the top tables of last year's Nats, and now that pretty much every top deck uses search extensively, you'll only see it in anti-meta decks.  If he's facing a well-built anti-meta, then he's got other problems.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 05:35:44 PM »
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The main thing is that Naz hurts Philly Outpost, which is most of the Philly defense, in my opinion at least.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2012, 09:15:48 PM »
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Quote from: Tom Bombadil on March 20, 2012, 05:35:44 PM
The main thing is that Naz hurts Philly Outpost, which is most of the Philly defense, in my opinion at least.
Phillies have a lot more to fear in Foreign Sword than Naz.
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Re: Judges/Philly Deck
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 11:59:17 PM »
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well i lost my first game 5-1 with this deck on RTS.  only one early lS with AUTO i think.
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