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Offline Tarthan

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Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« on: September 06, 2012, 01:54:44 PM »
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Ok, here's what's New:

!.  Better Babylonians (still need Nergal)
2. Slightly better Red (very slightly)

Is the evil a lot better than it was, or just ok?

I want to focus on offense right now, so what do I need for that?

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul (Anti Angel)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (withdraw)

Lamb Dominants: 3
   Angel of the Lord
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 2
   Raiders' Camp
   Storehouse

Artifacts: 5
   Asherah Pole
   Burial Shroud
   Holy Grail
   Priestly Crown
   Temple Veil

White Covenant Cards: 1
   Go Into Captivity (Crimson)

Red Heroes: 7
   Chloe
   Epaphras
   Lot
   Naharai
   Recruiting Officer
   Tabitha
   The Centurion at Calvary

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 4
   Counsel of Abigail (Purple/Red)
   Drawn Sword (Green/Crimson)
   Foreign Sword (Red/Black)
   Forest Fire (Green/Crimson)

Red Hero Enhancements: 7
   A Soldier's Prayer
   Authority of Peter
   Baggage
   Caleb's Sword
   Counsel of Abigail
   Freedom!
   Power of the Cross

Crimson Evil Characters: 7
   Ashpenaz
   Babylonian Forces
   Babylonian Soldiers
   King Belshazzar
   Nebuchadnezzar
   Nebushasban
   Sapphira

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 8
   Belshazzar's Banquet
   Carried into Exile
   Coliseum Lions
   Deceit of Sapphira
   Head of Gold
   Imitating Evil
   Swift Horses
   Treachery of Jezebel
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 02:06:30 PM »
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The defense is looking pretty solid.
   A couple of notes on D that are my personal preference:
           Dream   (because I love to draw more cards)
           King Zimri    (used to be a solid autoblock...not as guaranteed any more but he is worth considering)

On offense, it is important to note that I don't play a lot of Red (so I'm hazy on some of the names), but there are much better Red heroes.
Several of them are in the new Tins
     1. The 3 Canaanite heroes boost Foreign Sword (seriously..Foreign Sword is a crazy awesome card)
     2. Jephthah is a good way to squirm past defenses if you are willing to gamble with his cost.
     3. Asahel (TeP) is great...he bands or CtB
     4. There is another Red hero that bands from the Kings set...drawing a blank on his name...he is helpful.
     5. Fun ninja move is Feast of Passover (I am pretty sure that's the name of the set aside that buries ECs when attacking)
     6. Warrior's Spear is a great annoyance card to use against opponents
     7. Spy is useful to keep track of your opponent's cards.

I hope that helps you get started.  Again, I'm not an expert on the Red brigade.
    Another common use of Red is FBTN banding, check out complete decks for this year's National champion...he incorporated red.
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 04:51:46 PM »
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Dream is definitely good. Zimri is solid if FbtNB is prevalent in your meta, not that great otherwise.

1. Agree, although I would not use Uriah.
2. I would not use Jephthah. his ability is nice, but his lack of WC makes him a weak attack.
3. Absolutely. No red offense should lack Asahel.
4. Overkill on the banding once you add Asahel.
5. It's Passover and Unleavened Bread. An ok card, but I probably wouldn't use it outside its combo.
6. The best thing to do is to have a banding chain where you can get Foreign Sword in before Warrior's Spear. Put their card on top and summarily Discard it. I believe the most recent Natz champion used this in one of his decks to great effect.
7. I would not use Spy. While hand peeking is nice, it's not worth a weak attack.
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 05:12:52 PM »
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I actually really like Spy. He's the best initiative character Red has (Naharai dies too easily due to his own ability), and his hand peeking strategy and the Spy+Warrior's Spear combo are nifty.

I agree with all of Pol's other points though.
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 05:52:31 PM »
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Needs more nergalsharezer.  He's absolutely necessary for any babs defense.  Also, the character to enhancement ratio is off on the offense.  If you're going to have in 18 offensive cards, I would make it 9:9 or 10:8.
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 07:36:04 PM »
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Quote from: TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 on September 06, 2012, 05:52:31 PM
Needs more nergalsharezer.  He's absolutely necessary for any babs defense.  Also, the character to enhancement ratio is off on the offense.  If you're going to have in 18 offensive cards, I would make it 9:9 or 10:8.

I use babs as well and I agree that nerg is a must.  Nerg + CBN + swift + interrupt+play next = awesome!!!!  I mean Nerg can use minute enhancements and make them CBN....like Coliseum Lions.  Plus I like using Desecrate the Temple on Nerg too to try and take out SOG which will make NJ useless.
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 08:05:59 PM »
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I'd have to agree, Spy is often times quite useful. I'd suggest getting more Warriors for the Deck still.

Coliseum Lions cannot be made CBN by Negal, he only affects OT Enhancements. This is why people don't use Lions.
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 10:28:14 PM »
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Abishai is the banding hero from kings. I would suggest adding David, Uriah (inish, and cbn discard.) and Ahimelek. Only use Ishmiah if you have Abishai/Asahel/Heldai to band to him for the draw. Authority of peter can go for Holy ground or Battle is the Lord's.
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2012, 01:19:10 AM »
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Absolutely not. Ishmiah is an auto-include. He draws, negates Uzzah (among others), bands himself, and makes full use of Foreign Sword.
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Re: Red/Babylonian 2nd Attempt
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2012, 12:22:51 PM »
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 +1 You need Ishmaiah.  Absolutely need ishmaiah. 
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