Author Topic: toss disciples (Read 3904 times)

jbeers285 · « **on:** January 13, 2015, 11:40:14 AM »

Hero's 9
1   James, son of Alphaeus
1   John (I)
1   Matthew (Levi) (Di)
1   Philip (Di)
1   Thomas (Di)
1   Thaddeus
1   Bartholomew
1   Matthias (EC)
1   Peter (EC)

GE's 7 with 3 fruits
1   Coming of the Spirit
1   Faithfulness
1   Gentleness (EC)
1   Peace (EC)
1   Preaching at Pentecost
1   My Lord and My God
1   Authority of Christ (Promo)

EC's 8
1   The Sanhedrin
1   The Entrapping Pharisees
1   Scribe
1   Proud Pharisee
1   Lot's Wife
1   Foreign Wives
1   Disbelieving Sadducees
1   Goliath (Promo)

EE's 6
3 gray and 4 black tenants plays on 2 black EC's
1   Scattered
1   Balaam's Disobedience
1   Tenants Kill the Son
1   Abandonment (EC)
1   Stone of Thebez (RoA)
1   Joseph in Prison

DAE 1
1   Gamaliel's Speech

Fortresses 2
1   Herod's Temple (Di)
1   The Garden Tomb

Arts 4
1   Holy Grail
1   Four-Drachma Coin
1   Lampstand of the Sanctuary
1 Crown of Thorns

sites 3
1   Damascus (EC)
1   Caesarea Philippi
1   The Ends of the Earth

doms 8
1   Angel of the Lord (I)
1   Son of God (I)
1   New Jerusalem (Wa)
1   Grapes of Wrath
1   Christian Martyr (I)
1   Shipwreck (EC)
1   Vain Philosophy (J)
1   The Holy Spirit

lost souls 9
1   Lost Soul Ezekiel 34:6 (Exchanger)
1   Lost Soul Jeremiah 7:18 (Female Only) (H)
1   Lost Soul Jeremiah 11:8 (CBP)
1   Lost Soul II Chronicles 28:13 (Hopper)
1   Lost Soul Psalm 30:3 (Retriever)
1   Lost Soul Ecclesiastes 10:3 (Anti Miller)
1   Lost Soul Romans 3:23 (Revealer)
1   Lost Soul Jeremiah 3:25 (Set Aside)
1   Lost Soul Luke 16:20-21 (Beggar)

if i was gonna cut to 50 what would you cut? any other suggestions?

Redoubter · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2015, 01:03:31 PM »

I think the defense is too spread out personally and could be slimmed (probably wrong there, this is T1 after all and we all know how I am with that), but with the dom cap this is probably a deck that would run well above 56 (preferably at 57).

However...if this is a Toss deck...wherefore is the Passover Hymn? Also, Reassuring Angels would go well to be able to use people besides Matthias and Peter to Toss with.

jbeers285 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2015, 01:10:41 PM »

Quote from: Redoubter on January 13, 2015, 01:03:31 PM

I think the defense is too spread out personally and could be slimmed (probably wrong there, this is T1 after all and we all know how I am with that), but with the dom cap this is probably a deck that would run well above 56 (preferably at 57).

However...if this is a Toss deck...wherefore is the Passover Hymn? Also, Reassuring Angels would go well to be able to use people besides Matthias and Peter to Toss with.

I like passover hymn but am not sure if it is more valuable then crown of thorns for thad and toss . . . also coming of the spirit gives clay to a disciple so i have 3 clays theoretically. not sure maybe i should drop something else for for passover hymn

the defense actually does ok 3 characters are able to play black and gray and lots wife can band to proud giving access to black gray there as well.

LukeChips · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2015, 02:19:24 PM »

You should switch The ends of the Earth with Dragon Raid (promo).

jbeers285 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2015, 02:53:53 PM »

Quote from: LukeChips on January 13, 2015, 02:19:24 PM

You should switch The ends of the Earth with Dragon Raid (promo).

no techs for the ends of the earth but a site lock deck will play pergamum to stop dragon raid

Gabe · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2015, 03:07:34 PM »

Purple decks need not fear Pergamum because they can rescue the LS held there. The Site is only active while occupied.

LukeChips · « **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2015, 03:22:43 PM »

By Peter and Matthias (EC) do you mean "The Early Church"?

The Guardian · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2015, 08:14:12 PM »

I would cut one of the Sites to add in Passover Hymn.

Reth · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2015, 12:03:08 PM »

Isn't there a max. of 7 doms allowed only?

jbeers285 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2015, 12:20:27 PM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on January 13, 2015, 11:40:14 AM

Hero's 9
1   James, son of Alphaeus
1   John (I)
1   Matthew (Levi) (Di)
1   Philip (Di)
1   Thomas (Di)
1   Thaddeus
1   Bartholomew
1   Matthias (EC)
1   Peter (EC)

GE's 7 with 2fruits
1   Coming of the Spirit
1   Faithfulness
1   Peace (EC)
1   Preaching at Pentecost
1   My Lord and My God
1   Authority of Christ (Promo)
1 Passover Hymn

EC's 5
1   The Sanhedrin
1   The Entrapping Pharisees
1   Scribe
1   Proud Pharisee
1   Saul/Paul

EE's 5
1   Scattered
1   Balaam's Disobedience
1   Tenants Kill the Son
1 Pretension
1 Sorrow of Mary

DAE 1
1   Gamaliel's Speech

Fortresses 2
1   Herod's Temple (Di)
1   The Garden Tomb

Arts 4
1   Holy Grail
1   Four-Drachma Coin
1   Lampstand of the Sanctuary
1 Crown of Thorns

sites 2
1   Damascus (EC)
1   Dragon Raid (p)

doms 7
1   Angel of the Lord (I)
1   Son of God (I)
1   New Jerusalem (Wa)
1   Grapes of Wrath
1   Christian Martyr (I)
1   Vain Philosophy (J)
1   The Holy Spirit

lost souls 8
1   Lost Soul Ezekiel 34:6 (Exchanger)
1   Lost Soul Jeremiah 7:18 (Female Only) (H)
1   Lost Soul Jeremiah 11:8 (CBP)
1   Lost Soul II Chronicles 28:13 (Hopper)
1   Lost Soul Psalm 30:3 (Retriever)
1   Lost Soul Ecclesiastes 10:3 (Anti Miller)
1   Lost Soul Romans 3:23 (Revealer)
1   Lost Soul Jeremiah 3:25 (Set Aside)

Updated version at 50

@reth the soul cap is based on the number of souls on your deck (excluding hopper).

So at 57 cards your required to have 8 souls and 8 doms
64 you must 9 souls and may have upto 9 doms
71 is 10/10
And so on

Master Q · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2015, 02:09:14 PM »

Honestly, you'd probably be better off just running Disciples on offense, taking out the Holy Spirit and Toss stuff and adding more defense and battle winners. This deck looks similar to one I tried- http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/type-1-deck-advice/tombtoss/. After comparison, I found that regular Disciples performed better more consistently.

If you do decide to stick with this build, I would do the following:

Out:
Matthias
Crown o' Thorns
The Ends o' the Earth

In:
Reassuring Angel
Emperor Tiberius
Dragon Raid (p)

jbeers285 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2015, 02:11:20 PM »

Quote from: Master Q on January 18, 2015, 02:09:14 PM

Honestly, you'd probably be better off just running Disciples on offense, taking out the Holy Spirit and Toss stuff and adding more defense and battle winners. This deck looks similar to one I tried- http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/type-1-deck-advice/tombtoss/. After comparison, I found that regular Disciples performed better more consistently.

If you do decide to stick with this build, I would do the following:

Out:
Matthias
Crown o' Thorns
The Ends o' the Earth

In:
Reassuring Angel
Emperor Tiberius
Dragon Raid (p)

Crown is too good with toss, Thad and TGT to drop

I swapped in dragon raid (p)

Master Q · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2015, 02:27:49 PM »

I'd still try to fit in another EC, but if 5 works for you, then more power to you. Is the Coming o' the Spirit the one that draws, or the 2nd print one?

jbeers285 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 18, 2015, 03:17:05 PM »

Quote from: Master Q on January 18, 2015, 02:27:49 PM

I'd still try to fit in another EC, but if 5 works for you, then more power to you. Is the Coming o' the Spirit the one that draws, or the 2nd print one?

It is the one that grants clay to whoever it is placed on. It may need an additional EC im just not convinced that crown is the right card to get rid of.

LukeChips · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2015, 09:54:31 AM »

You already have a lot of EC's why do you need more?

jbeers285 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2015, 02:06:33 PM »

Quote from: LukeChips on January 19, 2015, 09:54:31 AM

You already have a lot of EC's why do you need more?

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Adding an additional EC is based on the quoted list that I edited.

LukeChips · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2015, 02:18:20 PM »

Ok, I usually use 8 as well.

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