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Quote from: Red on January 10, 2012, 12:05:34 PM

I haven't seen a teal/gold/green Samuel deck yet. Even so red/purple has to be better.

I would be inclined to agree with Red here, but I guess I could be proven wrong.

I haven't seen a teal/gold/green Samuel deck yet. Even so red/purple has to be better.

I am tempted to post my deck now to get your thoughts. I have no doubt in my mind that my version of Sam is better than a standard Red/Purple, but I can understand why the community wouldn't think so (since no one has really talked about that combo until this thread).

My favorite Sam-I-Am deck used Gold, Green, Purple, Red, Silver and Teal. No White or Blue though.

Sounds interesting. Must have been fun to try to fit any defense into it

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on January 10, 2012, 12:32:08 PM

Finally, can someone please explain what the big deal about regular TGT (mostly white, with Peter and John splashed in) is? It's not that fast, they only have three viable battle winners (four when you recur He is Risen via Consider the Lilies), and I just don't see what puts it on the same level as Sam, Gardensciples, Disciples, or even Genesis. This could just be by own ignorance and I'm not getting something here, so please enlighten me.

It's like Tim Tebow. It's pretty bad, but it just wins.

Just kidding. I don't think it should be that high either.

I'd be ok with TGT in top of B tier.

Quote from: Professoralstad on January 10, 2012, 12:12:45 PM

Quote from: Red on January 10, 2012, 12:05:34 PM

I haven't seen a teal/gold/green Samuel deck yet. Even so red/purple has to be better.

I would be inclined to agree with Red here, but I guess I could be proven wrong.

Quote from: Red on January 10, 2012, 12:05:34 PM

I haven't seen a teal/gold/green Samuel deck yet. Even so red/purple has to be better.

I am tempted to post my deck now to get your thoughts. I have no doubt in my mind that my version of Sam is better than a standard Red/Purple, but I can understand why the community wouldn't think so (since no one has really talked about that combo until this thread).

I've mentioned it several times before, and posted on in the TEAMS decks forum, but nobody goes there...
PM me though? I'd like to see it and how it's different than my old one.

Why didn't FBTNB even show up on the list? They should be A tier.

Because it counters the meta too perfectly and I don't want people knowing about it...

Okay, how about this:

A Tier
Samuel (all variants)
Gardenciples
FBTNB
Disciples

B Tier
Genesis
TGT
Prophets

C Tier
Mono-Red
Judges
Royalty

Move Sam and Gardensciples up to S Tier, put FBTNB, Genesis, TGT, and Disciples in A tier.

I agree. I think Genesis should be the top of A tier. FBTNB should probably be second. TGT third. Disciples there just because of Thad.

Disciples > TGT.

That's just me though.

Maybe if people actually played defense.

Judges are not C tier.  Bottom of B at least.  Bullet proof gideon need not be ignored.

I'm actually inclined to agree. Put Judges below Isaiah and Zeke. We need to figure out where a good Green/Teal deck would fit too.

Above Zeke.  Zeke's too slow, Judges have Samuel, Oak, Jair. Eli's sound advice, and defense drawing. In addition judges have more CBN firepower than Zeke.

Above Zeke.  Zeke's too slow, Judges have Samuel, Oak, Jair. Eli's sound advice, and defense drawing. In addition judges have more CBN firepower than Zeke.

Recursion of Forest Fire is, in my opinion, stronger than anything Judges have to offer.

TGT (Just because Susie won March Madness)
Disciples (Just because Thad lost March Madness...)

Couldn't miss an opportunity to rub salt in that particular wound, could you....

Disciples also have Phil/Bart, which win battles just by existing.  A first turn Phil can be *almost* as bad as a FTM.

Disciples' best heroes are John, Philip/Bart, and Matthew. Thad is WAY overrated.

TGT doesn't even give your opponent a chance to block though. Plus, with a 4 character CBN chain, you'd have to pull off Writ, Charms, and CM. And then you just discard from hand and deck to make sure you still get that rescue.

Actually, Mark Underwood's FBTNB deck placed fourth.

It's a new year. Last year, Phillies (the most popular defense) wrecked FBTNB.

Strictly speaking, nobody should be using regular TGT anyway. Gardensciples uses all the best parts of TGT and does it better.