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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #75 on: May 13, 2011, 11:49:52 PM »
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Watchful Servant has been moved down to B Tier. I support moving CTB to C Tier.


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« Reply #76 on: May 13, 2011, 11:53:34 PM »
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Genesis and Red should both get moved up a spot.
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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2011, 12:49:31 AM »
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CtB is excellent. I ran one in RooT for awhile to great success. The problem it has it there is no good defensive pairing for it (but we aren't thinking about defense, so that's irrelevant). It's around 12-15 cards (average size), can use TGT (via blue/green ladies), and isn't countered often.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2011, 03:02:43 AM »
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CTB is definitely B tier at least, and I'd even support it being A tier. I'd say Genesis is B tier as well.
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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #79 on: May 14, 2011, 10:58:37 AM »
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I honestly think that TGT and Disciples should be alone in A tier.  They are really the only two offenses deserving of it.
B tier should then include NT Prophets, FBTN banding, Watchful Servant, Z temple, and CTB.  Probably in that order.  I think Genesis would be a top C tier offense, so I guess I wouldn't mind them in C, but they really aren't on par with most of these.
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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #80 on: May 14, 2011, 08:22:26 PM »
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Disciples and TGT should go to S tier

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #81 on: May 14, 2011, 08:39:47 PM »
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I support Disciples and TGT for S tier. They are clearly the best two, so it does make sense to seperate them.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2011, 08:51:45 PM »
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the only reason i wouldnt move disciples to s-tier is because this tournament season isnt over yet, but im 99% sure they will prove themselves all the way to nationals. that is the only reason i think tgt should be alone in s-tier for now, and because tgt is still so strong after so many years and has proven itself too many times.
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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2011, 09:20:23 PM »
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the only reason i wouldnt move disciples to s-tier is because this tournament season isnt over yet, but im 99% sure they will prove themselves all the way to nationals. that is the only reason i think tgt should be alone in s-tier for now, and because tgt is still so strong after so many years and has proven itself too many times.

I strongly hold Disciples won't win Nationals of any category, but that's only because any serious deck will pack a little bit of anti-Disciples just in case.

Also, "S Tier" has, as far as tier lists like this go, never meant good, at all. S tier has always traditionally meant the worst tier.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2011, 09:38:58 PM »
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S tier on all boards I have been on has been the top tier (largely due to it being the max weapon proficiency in Fire Emblem games). I figured since someone else brought it up first, it'd be ok to reference.

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« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2011, 09:48:24 PM »
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Ah, I forgot JRPGs. It's usually considered good for JRPGs, but on tiers I look at (for instance, Brawl), S tier is the lowest, and I'm sure you can figure out what it stands for.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2011, 09:52:28 PM »
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...what? s-tier has ALWAYS meant the best of the best.

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Tier_list

unless of course meta knight got nerfed overnight. s-tier is always reserved for the best (usually broken) characters in all fighting game franchises, as well as any other tier list.
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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #87 on: May 14, 2011, 10:02:07 PM »
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Boy, now I'm trying to remember which game would have had S as bad. I seem to have been misinformed...

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #88 on: August 10, 2011, 01:24:07 AM »
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Bump with new set release to be considered. Here's my initial reaction for the offense:

S Tier
Red Warriors

A Tier
Judges/Silver
Prophets
Fight by the Numbers Banding

B Tier
Genesis
Royalty
The Garden Tomb
Choose the Blocker

C Tier
Watchful Servant
Teal
Job

D Tier
Silver
Luke
« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 01:49:59 AM by Ring Wraith »

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #89 on: August 10, 2011, 07:43:30 AM »
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You forgot Disciples in A tier. TGT is still A tier. Judges/Angels is B tier. Isaiah is B tier.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #90 on: August 10, 2011, 07:44:10 AM »
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Heh someone didn't read the spoiler. Discples got killed.
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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #91 on: August 10, 2011, 07:45:51 AM »
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Disciples didn't get killed unto the majority of people actually use the counters in competetive play. If counters killed decks, speed was killed around priests.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #92 on: August 10, 2011, 08:03:01 AM »
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Here's the thing:Some of the counters are the best cards or serve a dual role.
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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #93 on: August 10, 2011, 08:16:33 AM »
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Here's the thing:Some of the counters are the best cards or serve a dual role.

Here's the thing: There's at least 3 counters to Thad in the game now that are easy to use, yet no one uses them. Hmmm.


If the counter get used, Disciples get downgraded. But, Redemption history says they won't get used.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #94 on: August 10, 2011, 08:53:50 AM »
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Well i'm going to run anti thad measures.
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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2011, 09:07:17 AM »
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Well i'm going to run anti thad measures.

Why? With Thad being so thoroughly countered, no one will use him.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2011, 09:21:14 AM »
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I'm not so sure TGT should stay A Tier. I'm guessing the beginning of this year we'll see a lot of the counter cards while some people are still behind and playing their decks from this year.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2011, 09:23:58 AM »
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I'm not so sure TGT should stay A Tier. I'm guessing the beginning of this year we'll see a lot of the counter cards while some people are still behind and playing their decks from this year.

I'm not really sure why it wouldn't be A tier other than not being as good as prophets or warriors.

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #98 on: August 10, 2011, 09:25:34 AM »
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Should I divide Isaiah from Prophets?

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Re: Tier Lists (T1)
« Reply #99 on: August 10, 2011, 09:26:22 AM »
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Should I divide Isaiah from Prophets?

Absolutely. He works better without other prophets getting in his way and competing for deck space. Isaiah will be a popular herolite strategy.

 


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