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Watchful Servant has been moved down to B Tier. I support moving CTB to C Tier.

CtB is excellent. I ran one in RooT for awhile to great success. The problem it has it there is no good defensive pairing for it (but we aren't thinking about defense, so that's irrelevant). It's around 12-15 cards (average size), can use TGT (via blue/green ladies), and isn't countered often.

I honestly think that TGT and Disciples should be alone in A tier.  They are really the only two offenses deserving of it.
B tier should then include NT Prophets, FBTN banding, Watchful Servant, Z temple, and CTB.  Probably in that order.  I think Genesis would be a top C tier offense, so I guess I wouldn't mind them in C, but they really aren't on par with most of these.

I support Disciples and TGT for S tier. They are clearly the best two, so it does make sense to seperate them.

the only reason i wouldnt move disciples to s-tier is because this tournament season isnt over yet, but im 99% sure they will prove themselves all the way to nationals. that is the only reason i think tgt should be alone in s-tier for now, and because tgt is still so strong after so many years and has proven itself too many times.

I strongly hold Disciples won't win Nationals of any category, but that's only because any serious deck will pack a little bit of anti-Disciples just in case.

Also, "S Tier" has, as far as tier lists like this go, never meant good, at all. S tier has always traditionally meant the worst tier.

Ah, I forgot JRPGs. It's usually considered good for JRPGs, but on tiers I look at (for instance, Brawl), S tier is the lowest, and I'm sure you can figure out what it stands for.

Hint: It's Shark.

Boy, now I'm trying to remember which game would have had S as bad. I seem to have been misinformed...

My bad.

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You forgot Disciples in A tier. TGT is still A tier. Judges/Angels is B tier. Isaiah is B tier.

Disciples didn't get killed unto the majority of people actually use the counters in competetive play. If counters killed decks, speed was killed around priests.

Here's the thing:Some of the counters are the best cards or serve a dual role.

Here's the thing: There's at least 3 counters to Thad in the game now that are easy to use, yet no one uses them. Hmmm.


If the counter get used, Disciples get downgraded. But, Redemption history says they won't get used.

Well i'm going to run anti thad measures.

Why? With Thad being so thoroughly countered, no one will use him.

I'm not so sure TGT should stay A Tier. I'm guessing the beginning of this year we'll see a lot of the counter cards while some people are still behind and playing their decks from this year.

I'm not really sure why it wouldn't be A tier other than not being as good as prophets or warriors.

Should I divide Isaiah from Prophets?

Absolutely. He works better without other prophets getting in his way and competing for deck space. Isaiah will be a popular herolite strategy.