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Hi there,

since I like O.T. themes I tried to build a deck around one (well somehow). While not entirely focussing on the biblical context I tried to create something deck discard related (not to its fullest extend) and own rescues without opponents souls by getting Moses into territory by Shiprah and equipping him with Faith of Enoch in order to penetrate opponent to discard him for a rescue. Similar for Prisoner. He shell go to opponent's LoB in order to be rescued by Lamb's R. later on.

It is fun to play but unfortunately deck is still quite slow. So your ideas, opinions, hints, tips and thoughts are highly welcome! 

Any chance to get something like this a little bit more competitive?

So here we go:

Support Cards:
Book of the Covenant (PoC)
Hezekiah's Signet Ring
House of Prayer
Pithom
Given Over to Egypt

DACs:
Prisoner at Gaza
Pharaoh's Daughter (FoM)

Heroes:
Moses' Parents
The Shunammite Woman
Shiphrah
Hur (PoC)
Moses (CoW)
Indentured Servant
Aaron (Di)
The Destroyer (PoC)

GEs:
Faith of Moses Parents
Death of Firstborn (PoC)
Faith
Faith of Moses
Words of Encouragement (Ki)
Cymbals of the Levites
Plague of Blood (PoC)
"I AM" Has Sent Me

ECs
Queen Tahpenes
Taskmaster (FoM)
The Hard Hearted Pharaoh (CoW)
The Murdering Pharaoh
Egyptian Magicians
Egyptian Wise Men (FoM)
Potiphar's Wife (PoC)

EEs:
Egyptian Horses
Evicted
Reclaimed by Egypt
Ruthless
Turn to Egypt
Swift Horses (D)
Abandonment (EC)

Dominants:
Grapes of Wrath
The Second Coming
Three Woes (RoJ)
Christian Martyr (J)
Falling Away (CoW)
Angel of the Lord (J)
Son of God (J)

Lost Souls:
Lost Soul (Gain)
Lost Soul (Darkness)
Lost Soul (Dull)
Lost Soul (Imitate)
Lost Soul (Lawless)
Lost Soul (Vindicated)
Lost Soul (Wicked)


Reserve:
You Will Remain
Unknown Nation (PoC)
Foreign Wives
Faith of Enoch
Covenant with Moses (PoC)
Jacob (Israel) (CoW)
Lamb's Righteousness (RoJ)
Wonders Forgotten
Faith of Samuel
Jephthah (J)

Bye

Adding the Genesis Egyptians (Magicians, Cupbearer, Dreaming Pharoah) will help with the speed. Musical stuff (Miriam, Music Leaders, Hannah) would help as well.

Thanks for your hints: Any suggestion what to cut for them?

Why are Jephthah and Jacob (Israel) in reserve?

Jepth is in for Prisoner in order to reduce defense from territory. Jacob is in since hand and deck seem to be increasing targets these days. 

I wish I had spoiled The Exodus, Moses’ Staff, Passover, Pharaoh’s Servants, Grain Tenders and Summoned to Interpret. Those could all work so well in this deck! I’ll try to get a spoiler article sent to LoR ASAP.

Well, it seems my idea of adding Jephthah's Daughter for some White/Gold, musician, add Jephthah from deck, discard or Reserve and choose a human in opponents territory to block him might be a little underwhelming in consideration of the above to be spoiled options.   

Godspeed,
Mike

Ok, copied over my post from here:

Honestly I do not see the deck DC option as a valid one anymore due to too much protection around getting its coronation by the new storehouse. So maybe other Egyptians might fit better now in defense (which would make a nearly "pure" exodus theme a harder task then).
For the drawing Egyptians I might have a look again - so far I could "only" find some drawing you one card when pushed into battle while not having so much synergies with better characters (in terms of SA).

Keep in mind that Pithom not only has a deck d/c ability, but also the ability to underdeck good cards from an opponent's territory, which would include Storehouse.

Resurrecting this one: Latest with LoC IMO deck DCing is not a good option anymore since I do not see any potential to get a defense set up supporting this concept while still be able to withstand all these overwhelming battle winning SAs on Heroes, GEs + supporting cards which came already with PoC but now even more with LoC!

Those Egyptians who wreck decks cannot stand against all this IMO. What do you think?

And in addition: Regarding what was mentioned as spoilers back then - how best integrate Passover, Pharaoh’s Servants, Grain Tenders with CoW Moses around? Latest if he goes into battle or will return from it they get deactivated. Is there a way around it?

Thank you. Yes, with LoC I also recognised that there will be some good support for this deck (and not only for this one  ).

Any suggestions regarding defense? Since defense is a Achilles' heel in this deck (maybe next to not always be able to win battles). Also not getting opponent's Storehouse negated or disposed quick enough will make your live harder.

Hi there,

since I like O.T. themes I tried to build a deck around one (well somehow). While not entirely focussing on the biblical context I tried to create something deck discard related (not to its fullest extend) and own rescues without opponents souls by getting Moses into territory by Shiprah and equipping him with Faith of Enoch in order to penetrate opponent to discard him for a rescue. Similar for Prisoner. He shell go to opponent's LoB in order to be rescued by Lamb's R. later on.

It is fun to play but unfortunately deck is still quite slow. So your ideas, opinions, hints, tips and thoughts are highly welcome! 

Any chance to get something like this a little bit more competitive?

So here we go:

Support Cards:
Book of the Covenant (PoC)
Hezekiah's Signet Ring Manna (Must for deck dc)
House of Prayer Storehouse (I would rather the deck and hand protection here)
Pithom
Given Over to Egypt
Egypt (I play this for another deck discard with deck discard LS. Plus you can get your Exodus/Genesis forts out...i.e. Storehouse and Pithom, or you EC's).

DACs:
Prisoner at Gaza Slaves in Egypt (Keeps to the Exodus theme)
Pharaoh's Daughter (FoM)

Heroes:
Moses' Parents
The Shunammite Woman
Shiphrah
Hur (PoC)
Moses (CoW) in reserve
Indentured Servant
Aaron (Di)
The Destroyer (PoC)

GEs:
Faith of Moses Parents
Death of Firstborn (PoC) Plague of Darkness
Faith Plague of Locusts (Another deck dc plus play another enhance. CBP)
Faith of Moses
Words of Encouragement (Ki)
Cymbals of the Levites Love Righteousness (Helps to get your white Heroes out quicker)
Plague of Blood (PoC)
"I AM" Has Sent Me

ECs
Queen Tahpenes The Outcasts (It's better and slows opponent down and gives them hand clog which forces them to put characters down to trigger the dc from TO)
Taskmaster (FoM)
The Hard Hearted Pharaoh (CoW)
The Murdering Pharaoh Egyptian Army (It's just better)
Egyptian Magicians
Egyptian Wise Men (FoM) Jambres (FoM) (You can reveal bottom and take if it's an Exodus card. More than likely it will be....)
Potiphar's Wife (PoC) The Deceiver (I run this to get an EC from Reserve. And I think it's a bit better than PW anyway)

EEs:
Egyptian Horses
Evicted
Reclaimed by Egypt No Straw! (Just because....it's better and grants CBN. Battle winner!)
Ruthless Wonders Forgotten (Better and battle winner or stalemate to deny soul gain)
Turn to Egypt
Swift Horses (D) Beheaded (Quick deck dc...plus you have enough with horses)
Abandonment (EC) The Wages of Sin (FoM) (Easy way to get all your deck discard stuff and play on deceiver)

Dominants:
Grapes of Wrath I would replace with Shipwreck. I think it's better with all the Fort placements you will face.
The Second Coming
Three Woes (RoJ)
Christian Martyr (J)
Falling Away (CoW)
Angel of the Lord (J)
Son of God (J)

Lost Souls:
Lost Soul (Gain) Replace with Exiles
Lost Soul (Darkness)
Lost Soul (Dull) I would change out with Deck DC to place in egypt.
Lost Soul (Imitate) I would use Humble to make everything CBP
Lost Soul (Lawless)
Lost Soul (Vindicated)
Lost Soul (Wicked)
Lost Soul (Hopper) (I would play with the Hopper for an added soul gen)


Reserve:
You Will Remain
Unknown Nation (PoC) Magic Charms
Foreign Wives
Faith of Enoch Plague of Blood
Covenant with Moses (PoC)
Jacob (Israel) (CoW) Outsiders (Just cause it's better)
Lamb's Righteousness (RoJ) Sin and Justice (Because it's sooooo good)
Wonders Forgotten The Exodus (Great game winner with all the deck Dcing going on)
Faith of Samuel Sun Worship (territory class deck dc to opponent who draws and/or searches)
Jephthah (J) Moses (wait til end game to get him)

Bye

Here's my suggestions....but they are only suggestions! HOpe it helps! Blessings!