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TGT...on RTS
« on: May 11, 2012, 08:47:07 PM »
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Hey guys, I was trying to build a Garden Tomb deck on RTS today.  Any suggestions as to what defense I should use?  I was thinking Pharisees and Sadducees to kind of keep the theme going. 
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 09:40:52 PM »
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Ha, defense in type I. err sorry. hmm anyway.  Sadducees are pretty weak, so I would go with just pharisees if I was going with one of those defenses.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 11:29:39 PM »
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hmmm ok thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 11:52:18 PM »
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It really depends. Most of the stronger TGT decks tend to use a splashed theme (Disciples and/or NT Gold, generally), which doesn't often leave much room for defense. Pharisees are decent, smallish, and may add some much-needed speed to a TGT deck, especially if it's not using Disciples beyond John and Peter. Gardensciples tends to be slightly bigger, and doesn't need the speed as much, so a traditional standalone might be better in that case.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2012, 12:18:38 AM »
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Uzzah Gomer KOT Haman's Plot, maybe a sabbath breaker. seems about right.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2012, 12:20:20 AM »
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You're forgetting Slave.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2012, 08:06:51 PM »
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So Pharisees, Gomer, KoT, Uzzah, Sabbath Breaker, and Ammy's Slave for defense?
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2012, 08:27:53 PM »
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Vitellus > Breaker in todays meta.

Or use both.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2012, 08:28:03 PM »
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Quote from: dermo4christ on May 13, 2012, 08:06:51 PM
So Pharisees, Gomer, KoT, Uzzah, Sabbath Breaker, and Ammy's Slave for defense?
They were actually suggesting just Gomer, KoT, Uzzah, Haman's Plot, Sabbath Breaker, and A Slave.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2012, 08:39:16 PM »
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k....now i just need to find some good gray enhancements for sabbath and vitellius.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2012, 08:44:17 PM »
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Quote from: dermo4christ on May 13, 2012, 08:39:16 PM
k....now i just need to find some good gray enhancements for sabbath and vitellius.

People don't use enhancements with them, they just use them to draw.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2012, 08:47:22 PM »
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Balaams Disobediance is solid. But you probably won't get inish with Vitellus anyways, so no use using enhancements.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2012, 08:49:00 PM »
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true...since Vitellius #'s are fairly high. Not sure if I have Disobedience.  I'll have to check.  If so, I can use him with Breaker.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2012, 08:53:42 PM »
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A lot of people will pass to Vittles unless they want to keep their hero alive, assuming that there's nothing to play. Balaam's Disobedience might be a good choice if you plan on using both Vittles and Sabbath Breaker.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2012, 08:59:15 PM »
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The chances of a Hero not having anything to win a rescue is extremely slim. Balaams D will be a dead draw if only using Breaker and Vitellus.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2012, 09:01:31 PM »
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Quote from: Master KChief on May 13, 2012, 08:59:15 PM
The chances of a Hero not having anything to win a rescue is extremely slim. Balaams D will be a dead draw if only using Breaker and Vitellus.

Yeah, now I'm thinking more towards if one uses a couple magicians, to use Balaam.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2012, 09:07:23 PM »
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Or User of Curious Arts, which gives him access to the Plot as well.
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2012, 12:36:29 AM »
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ok all here is my deck for TGT

Cards in Deck: 63

Lost Souls: 8 w/Hopper
Revealer
NT Only
Hopper
Female only
First Round
Thorns
3-Liner
Beggar

Doms: 7

SoG/NJ
Guardian
AoTL
Burial
Mayhem
CM

Arts/Curses/Covenants: 8
Charms
FDC
Shroud
New Covenant (Bread and Wine)
Writ
30 Pieces
Temple Veil
RBD

Forts: 1
Garden Tomb

White heroes: 6
Joanna
Salome
Nicodemus
Joe of Arim.
Mary Mag
Mary james' Mom

Purple Heroes: 1
John

Red Heroes: 1
Peter

Silver heroes: 1
Angel of the harvest

White Enhances: 5
Consider the lilies
He is Risen
Holy priesthood
No need for spices
Words of Encouragement

Purple Enhances: 2
AoC Promo
Reach of Desperation

Red Enhances: 2
Battle Cry
Walking on Water

Multi Enhances: 4
Faith in Our high priest
Benedictus
Faith as a Mustard Seed
Pentecost

Crimson EC: 1
Judas Iscariot

Brown EC: 2
Gomer
Uzzah

pale green EC: 2
Balaam
UOCA

Gray EC: 2
Vitellius
Breaker

Orange EC: 1
KoT

Multi EC: 1
Slave

Crimson Enhances: 1
Judas' Plot

Brown Enhances: 1
Haman's Plot

Gray Enhances: 1
Balaams Disobedience

Pale Green Enhances: 1
Death of Unrighteous

Multi Evil Enhances: 4
Magician's Snakes
Arrest in Gethsemane
Satan Enters Judas
Expelling the Jews


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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2012, 12:58:20 AM »
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Realistically a TGT deck needs to be 50-56 cards.  So here's what I would cut.

Quote from: dermo4christ on May 14, 2012, 12:36:29 AM
ok all here is my deck for TGT

Cards in Deck: 63 51

Lost Souls: 8 w/Hopper
Revealer
NT Only
Hopper
Female only
First Round
Thorns
3-Liner
Beggar

Doms: 7

SoG/NJ
Guardian
AoTL
Burial
Mayhem
CM

Arts/Curses/Covenants:8 5
Charms
FDC
Shroud
New Covenant (Bread and Wine)
Writ
30 Pieces
Temple Veil
RBD
Blue Tassels
Grail

Forts: 1
Garden Tomb

White heroes: 6
Joanna
Salome
Nicodemus
Joe of Arim.
Mary Mag
Mary james' Mom
Susie
Lydia

Purple Heroes: 1 3
John
Phil
Bart

Red Heroes: 1
Peter

Silver heroes: 1
Angel of the harvest


White Enhances: 5 3
Consider the lilies
He is Risen
Holy priesthood
No need for spices
Words of Encouragement

Purple Enhances: 2
AoC Promo
Reach of Desperation


Red Enhances: 2
Battle Cry
Walking on Water

Multi Enhances: 4 3
Faith in Our high priest
Benedictus
Faith as a Mustard Seed
Pentecost
First Fruits

Crimson EC: 1
Judas Iscariot

Brown EC: 2
Gomer
Uzzah

pale green EC: 2
Balaam
UOCA

Gray EC: 2
Vitellius
Breaker

Orange EC: 1
KoT

Multi EC: 1
Slave

Crimson Enhances: 1
Judas' Plot

Brown Enhances: 1
Haman's Plot

Gray Enhances: 1
Balaams Disobedience

Pale Green Enhances: 1
Death of Unrighteous

Multi Evil Enhances: 4
Magician's Snakes
Arrest in Gethsemane
Satan Enters Judas
Expelling the Jews

You have a lot of extra enhancements in here so I cut a bunch of them out.  I added in Susannah and Lydia since they are great for TGT decks.  I also added Phil and Bart for CBN protected banding and more characters to get off AoCp with.  I also switched out some arts, TGT doesn't have much protection from capture so Tassels is a must (and it stops soul-gen too) as is Grail to help you use the pre-block ignore on TGT.  Basically the changes I made help to streamline your deck a bit more by cutting down on fluff and centering it more on the power of TGT.   
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Re: TGT...on RTS
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2012, 11:42:17 AM »
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k updated....thx!
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