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Teal powerhouse/defenseless
« on: December 05, 2008, 08:54:22 PM »
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Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (anti-burial)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   Harvest Time
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 2
   Storehouse
   Zerubbabel's Temple

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   Dragon Raid

Red Sites: 3
   Babylon
   Babylon
   Babylon

Green Sites: 1
   Babylonian Banquet Hall

Artifacts: 6
   Burial Shroud
   Chariot of Fire
   Gifts of the Magi
   Priestly Crown
   The Silver Trumpets
   Urim and Thummim

White Covenant Cards: 2
   Covenant with Levi (Teal)
   Covenant with Phinehas (Teal)

Red Covenant Cards: 1
   I am Creator

Multi-Color Heroes: 8
   Abiathar (Teal)
   Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
   Joiakim, Son of Joshua (Teal)
   Joshua the High Priest (Teal)
   Melchizedek (purple/teal)
   Phinehas, son of Eleazar (Teal)
   Seraiah the High Priest (Teal)
   Zechariah (green/teal)

Green Heroes: 2
   Haggai
   Hur

Purple Heroes: 1
   Ethiopian Treasurer

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 9
   Burning Incense (Teal)
   Filling Zerubbabel's Temple (Teal)
   Holy unto the Lord (Teal)
   Jehoiada's Strength (Teal)
   Jordan Interrupted (Teal)
   Pentecost
   Scapegoat (Teal)
   Trumpet Blast (Teal)
   Zeal for the Lord (Teal)

Green Hero Enhancements: 2
   Plague of Frogs
   Search

Purple Hero Enhancements: 1
   Authority of Christ
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2008, 09:04:48 PM »
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Speed fails! Naw but seriously. This looks more teal, less speed.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 10:37:26 PM »
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That was my first thought; expand your purple, and add at least a little defense (Ex: 4 cards - KoT, PotW, PotA, & Red Dragon). Also, where are Hopper & Harvest Time? It needs some tweaking.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 11:06:44 PM »
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+1

I would take out P Spear, and PP.  I would also add Hopper and HT.

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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2008, 01:49:57 AM »
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That was my first thought; expand your purple, and add at least a little defense (Ex: 4 cards - KoT, PotW, PotA, & Red Dragon). Also, where are Hopper & Harvest Time? It needs some tweaking.

I would use a different "little" defense. King of Tyrus, Uzzah (2 characters that can successfully block), Sabbath Breaker (draw more? yes please), and either The Amalekites Slave (Put a LS in their territory) or 12Fingered Giant (stops banding, which beats KOT fbn).

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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2008, 07:23:39 AM »
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I was just jotting something down; I don't really care what he puts for the defense, I just think he needs one, and it should probably be small.

12Fingered Giant (stops banding, which beats KOT fbn).
Are you kidding me? You would rather have someone who negates banding than someone who negates everything (and has significantly higher offense numbers)?
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2008, 05:14:16 PM »
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Hmm, maybe that wasn't worded correctly. I said he should have in KOT, I was just noting that against a FBN banding chain though, 12 Fingered Giant is better than KOT because 10/12 won't beat a 16/15 (Jacob + Captain) or higher and 12 Fingered Giant can.

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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2008, 06:03:08 PM »
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This looks like a not too shaby Teal deck, but not at all a speed deck.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2008, 08:24:40 PM »
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Yes, that's true, but if you're choosing between the two, I'd definitely choose KoT.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 08:40:22 PM »
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actually its beend drawing exceptionally well one game i drew my full deck in 5 turns

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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 08:22:27 AM »
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Hey, isn't this the deck you played against me and I beat you, like, 5-1? (By the way, sorry for that connection failure in the "rematch.")
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2008, 11:59:31 AM »
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yup but i was locked out thats the only reason

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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 02:21:39 PM »
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Also, you had absolutely no defense, so pretty much any time I made a rescue, you just gave me a Lost Soul. YOU NEED SOME DEFENSE! Here's a sample of one you could use:

14 cards:

EC's (7)
King of Tyrus
Prince of the Air
Prince of this World
Red Dragon
Seven Sons of Sceva
Seven Wicked Spirits
Trembling Demon

Enhancements (4)
Deafening Spirit
Lying Unto God
Torment
Worshipping Demons

Supporting Cards (3)
Holy of Holies (ironically - for TD)
Household Idols (for Prince and Worshipping Demons)
KotW (obviously, for protection, especially from your own AoC - works well with SWS)

I use defenses like this a lot, and they work pretty well, besides being quite small. This is just a rough draft, and you could trim it if you wanted. Or, you know, you could just add sites. :dunno:
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2008, 05:33:02 PM »
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updatde and i like my no defense thing>.>

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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2008, 05:35:21 PM »
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im still confused by your characters but the deck looks faster
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 08:18:57 AM »
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You need parmenas and aoc.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2008, 09:16:20 AM »
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im still confused by your characters but the deck looks faster
explain pleasse
@Red Parmenas would be a waste to me since I will have a huge hand more than likely and AoCP is'nt realy what I want in here

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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2008, 01:35:36 PM »
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Sabbath Breaker and False Peace, might not block, but go get one of those much needed dominants.  I will take two please.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2008, 02:21:39 PM »
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Drop Book of Hozai for First Fruits.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2008, 04:11:55 PM »
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Awww no more defenseless :(
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2008, 04:25:15 PM »
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How do you play words of encouragement or book of hozai? I'd take them out for more stuff, but since you only have teal heroes, you're pretty limited. IT's really not speed, it's a "fast" teal deck. And any heavy defense/heroless would easily swat it down. You don't have that many battle winners, and if they just kill Mel, then you lost your best one of all.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 04:59:38 PM »
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im still confused by your characters but the deck looks faster
explain pleasse
Well...it isn't speed, frankly.This deck is just a teal deck with no defense and a few drawing cards....It's weird! o_O
This looks more teal, less speed.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2008, 05:18:54 PM »
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How do you play words of encouragement or book of hozai?

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However, I agree with everyone else that this isn't really a speed deck.
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2008, 07:19:40 PM »
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From what I've picked up about Speed, I think you need a lot of drawing, and with certain combos so that you can draw your entire deck in just a turn or two. Cards like Joiada (with Pentecost) help, but he also makes you lose a turn in which you could have made a rescue attempt. Although I haven't played too many speed decks myself, I'm pretty sure most of the successful ones are purple brigade (maybe with some mix)....Come to think of it, though, I have never seen a dissected Speed deck before....Could someone point me in the right direction?
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Re: Well look whose made the speed deck
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2008, 09:17:05 PM »
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Cards like Joiada (with Pentecost) help, but he also makes you lose a turn in which you could have made a rescue attempt.

You don't have to play Pentecost immediately... you can RA with Joiada and play Pentecost at the end of your turn.
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