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Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« on: September 06, 2008, 07:55:22 PM »
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Okay, so I'm experimenting with a style of play that I've never tried but have always found really interesting - Site Lock. Any comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Cards: 56
Lost Souls:
Site Guard (RoA)
Color Guard
Site Discard
Site Doubler
Evicter
Shame (RoA)
First-Round Protect

Dominants:
Son of God
Angel of the Lord
New Jerusalem
Harvest Time
Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away

Artifacts:
+Confusion of Mind
Covenant of Noah
Asherah Pole

Sites:
Lion's Den x4
Pergamum
Hormah
Promised Land

Heroes:
Jacob
Simeon
Levi
Dan
Benjamin
Asher
Zebulun
Rebekah

Good Enhancements:
Reuben's Torn Clothes
Jacob Buries the Foreign Gods
Laughter
Abraham's Servant to Ur
Baptism
Paying Tribute
Jubilee
Answer to Prayer
Jacob's Dream

Evil Characters:
King of Tyrus
The Bear
+Foul Spirit
+Zimri, son of Salu
+Lot's Wife
Persian Presidents
King Nadab
King Jeroboam I
King Zedekiah
The Jeering Youths

Evil Enhancements:
Haman's Plot
Dungeon of Malchiah
Korah's Rebellion
Ignorance
Land Purchase
Stiff-Necked
Taking Naboth's Vineyard
+Jeroboam's Idolatry
+Shimei's Malicious Curse
Zeresh Advises Haman
Chemosh

I'm trying to work in Zimri, son of Salu, Lot's Wife, and Hunger, but I'm a little stuck as to what to take out. I know I'm missing Face of Death and Plagued with Diseases as well, but again, I can't decide what to pull. Any help?
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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 08:01:40 PM »
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You have very very few artifacts. Covenant of Noah is a one-time use and Asherah Pole you won't want up all the time. Consider Stone Pillar at Bethel, Unknown Nation, or Confusion of Mind. Laughter can easily go for Obedience of Noah as well.

On the defense, I am amazed to see a post-RoA brown defense without Jeroboam's Idolatry. I think Zeresh Advises Haman might be able to leave for that.
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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 08:04:13 PM »
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Lost Souls:
Site Guard (RoA)
Color Guard
Site Discard
Site Doubler
Evicter
Shame (RoA)
First-Round Protect

Dominants:
Son of God
Angel of the Lord
New Jerusalem
Harvest Time
Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away

Artifacts:
Covenant of Noah
Asherah Pole

Sites:
Lion's Den x4
Pergamum
Hormah
Promised Land

Heroes:
Jacob
Simeon
Levi
Dan
Benjamin
Asher
Zebulun
Rebekah

Good Enhancements:
Reuben's Torn Clothes
Jacob Buries the Foreign Gods
Laughter (Numerous as Stars)
Abraham's Servant to Ur
Baptism(Lamenting Jepthah's Daughter)
Paying Tribute (Sarah)
Jubilee
Answer to Prayer
Jacob's Dream

Evil Characters:
King of Tyrus (Foul Spirit)
The Bear (Lot's Wife)
Persian Presidents (Zimri, son of Salu)
King Nadab
King Jeroboam I
King Zedekiah
The Jeering Youths

Evil Enhancements:
Haman's Plot
Dungeon of Malchiah
Korah's Rebellion (Hunger)
Ignorance
Land Purchase (Plagued with Diseases)
Taking Naboth's Vineyard
Stiff-Necked
Zeresh Advises Haman (Weakness)
Chemosh


Here's my suggestions. They take the deck towards decrease, if you don't mind that.

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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 12:51:18 AM »
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You have very very few artifacts. Covenant of Noah is a one-time use and Asherah Pole you won't want up all the time. Consider Stone Pillar at Bethel, Unknown Nation, or Confusion of Mind. Laughter can easily go for Obedience of Noah as well.

I have yet to see the power of Stone Pillar at Bethel, because I'm hesitant to discard a useful enhancements just to search my deck for a hero or enhancement, especially when I already have Answer to Prayer for that. CoM and Unknown Nation are great ideas, I just need to figure out what to take out. As for Obedience of Noah, I don't know that I have enough evil characters to spare for it, but I think it's definitely a better choice than Laughter.

Anyway, thank you! :)

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On the defense, I am amazed to see a post-RoA brown defense without Jeroboam's Idolatry. I think Zeresh Advises Haman might be able to leave for that.

Yeah, I put Zeresh Advises Haman in because I was really enamored with the ability to discard multiple characters and an artifact, almost unnegatably. However, I realized the other day that I see more decks with just one good brigade than two or more, so I'm not so sure about that. It will probably eventually go out for Jeroboam's Idolatry.
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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2008, 12:58:27 AM »
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Janissary;

I'm hesitant to take out Land Purchase and Korah's Rebellion, because they help with the site theme. Persian Presidents I like because of the synergy with Lion's Den and the Shame LS, but capture is a little weird in a site deck, so I may pull it along with Bear. Harvest Time is probably a good choice to pull as well. However, King of Tyrus is just an awesome block, and it works very well with the Site Guard LS.  As for the offense, I'm not sure that trading two battle winners for Lamenting is worth it, but I will think about it; Baptism and Paying Tribute aren't Genesis enhancements, so Asher isn't as versatile.

Thanks for the input! :)
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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2008, 01:24:54 AM »
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Okay, updated. Still need to free up a space; any different suggestions?
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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2008, 12:39:39 PM »
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Having played Brown sitelock exclusively since about January, I can say that Foul Spirit>KoT in almost every scenario. I would vote you switch him in, and then add Shimei's Malicious curse. You also might want to consider adding in Abner and his spear; excellent against FBTN.

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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2008, 12:47:32 PM »
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Losing cards to Stone Pillar isn't so bad considering Asher and Jubilee are around as well. There are definitely times when you won't need Jacob's Dream as much as Angel of the Lord or New Jerusalem.
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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2008, 12:48:36 PM »
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Oh, and yeah, I agree with Tim. Stone Pillar is always the best artifact in a Genesis deck IMO.

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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2008, 02:15:10 PM »
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No Waselands to make them place a site beneath their deck?

I would agree that Foul Spirit would probably be more useful than KoT in this style of deck. He is FbtN with a good possibility of getting inish to play Haman's Plot.

On defense I would go either Sitelock or Poison/Disease. When blending the 2, you lose the power punch of each as a standalone. At least that is my experience with blending them.
I would pull either Chemosh or Ignorance and put in Wickedness Abounds, to allow you to draw 4 and play next. Half the battle is getting you deck into your hand so you can play it.
You might consider pulling the First Round Protect and put in the new RoA Deck Discard LS. Double whammy with Site Discard and Deck Discard in there, making your opponent get rid of cards.
Priestly Crown should be considered as an alternate for site access in case Promised Land gets used up or something.


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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2008, 05:13:45 PM »
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Updated!

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No Waselands to make them place a site beneath their deck?

I'd rather steal their access site with Taking Naboth's Vineyard or Jacob's Dream than delay its use with Wastelands. :)
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Re: Genesis/Brown - looking for suggestions!
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2008, 08:33:22 PM »
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Delay can be the stepping stone to victory.


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