Author Topic: Sitelock/Judges (Read 4903 times)

Minister Polarius · « **on:** August 24, 2009, 06:21:18 PM »

Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (Color Guard)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Soul (site guard)
   Lost Soul (site remove)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan

Fortresses: 3
   Judge's Seat
   Kerith Ravine
   Philistine Outpost

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   New Jerusalem (site)

Red Sites: 2
   Ashdod
   Babylon

Gold Sites: 1
   Kir

Green Sites: 1
   Babylonian Banquet Hall

Blue Sites: 1
   Hormah

Purple Sites: 1
   Pergamum

Artifacts: 3
   Darius' Decree
   Miraculous Handkerchiefs
   Three Nails

Curses: 2
   Flee from Enemies (Black)
   Wasting Disease (Brown)

Red Heroes: 4
   Barak
   Jahaziel, son of Zechariah
   Jephthah
   The Centurion at Capernaum

Gold Heroes: 4
   Agur
   Deborah
   Ehud
   Moses

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 1
   Capturing Canaan (red/gold)

Red Hero Enhancements: 3
   A Soldier's Prayer
   Battle Cry
   The Battle is the Lord's

Gold Hero Enhancements: 5
   Ambush the City
   Battle Prayer
   Samson's Sacrifice
   Sword against Sword
   Vengeance of Eternal Fire

Black Evil Characters: 3
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Garrison
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Gray Evil Characters: 2
   Emperor Nero
   Emperor Otho

Orange Evil Characters: 1
Prince of Greece

Multi-Color Evil Characters: 1
Winged Leopard

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 3
   Destructive Sin (Orange)
   Lying Unto God
   Romans Destroy Jerusalem

Black Evil Enhancements: 2
   Land Dispute
   Wrath of Satan

Gray Evil Enhancements: 3
   Gold Shield
   Heavy Taxes
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses

adamfincher · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:32:32 PM »

problem #1 needs ehuds dagger. problem #2. garden tomb would own this.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:37:16 PM »

I don't see the draw in Ehud's Dagger. It's pretty limited.

Garden Tomb is what the site lockout is for.

Master KChief · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:38:33 PM »

site lock poops on tgt.

nice deck, i like it. can you explain some of your combos and card interactions here?

adamfincher · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:06:26 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 24, 2009, 07:37:16 PM

I don't see the draw in Ehud's Dagger. It's pretty limited.

Garden Tomb is what the site lockout is for.

ehuds dagger is why ehud was invinted

choose someone, give urself nish and kill them.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #5 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:14:43 PM »

And if they don't have a King, it's a wasted card slot.

That's basically what the idea behind this deck is: nothing is wasted. Kereth Ravine is both an easy way to place Enhancements from Discard and a way to Protect a Hero from my own Wrath (or Centurion from RDJ). All of my Sites except the one extra Babylon are both for sitelock and their own abilities (stopping CTB, letting my Philistines play Grey, protecting me from AoCP). The Artifacts are all generally useful in addition to serving their specific purpose in this deck (I switched CoF for MH). The list goes on. Basically, nothing in this deck is ever wasted.

adamfincher · « **Reply #6 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:19:10 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 24, 2009, 08:14:43 PM

And if they don't have a King, it's a wasted card slot.

and if they dont have any enhancments

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #7 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:22:12 PM »

Who plays with Enhancements that can be Negated? And before you say anything, Wrath is mostly meant to be played in a side-battle.

Master KChief · « **Reply #8 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:36:36 PM »

the centurion cannot go into kerith ravine.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #9 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:50:44 PM »

Oh dear, never noticed that before. Doesn't matter, though, I can stand losing one Hero to play that card.

Master KChief · « **Reply #10 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:53:17 PM »

what about stronghold in the desert or the new goshen? would those maybe work better?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #11 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:55:50 PM »

Neither of those are set-aside (or if Goshen is, it still doesn't work). Jahaziel needs someone set aside to do his magic.

Master KChief · « **Reply #12 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:58:52 PM »

ah, i see. what kind of abuse do you do with jahaziel and his special ability?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #13 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:00:34 PM »

It's very situational. Last game, I used it to put Sword against Sword on someone over and over. I also put Battle Cry on someone, and a CBN Samson's Sacrifice is always nice.

browarod · « **Reply #14 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:49:49 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 24, 2009, 11:00:34 PM

and a CBN Samson's Sacrifice is always nice.

According to the thread regarding Samson's Sacrifice, here, SS already CBN

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2009, 12:01:06 AM »

According to that, SS cannot be interrupted.

And I think I should have said "unstoppable" instead of "CBN." There's literally no way you can stop it from hitting you unless you Martyr my Hero in between the time it takes me to get him out of Ravine and when I put him in battle. Unless you play Unsuccessful as an Art

Ironica · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2009, 12:50:58 AM »

1) why do you have a guy who gives access to all sites in your site-lock deck and no WOP to stop others from abusing him?

2) Why do you have capture in a site-lock deck?

3) Why have Judges seat when only one hero would be of use in it (while the other two are too high to do much damage)?

3b) Why also have it when it will be nuked by RDJ?

4) Why do you not have one site per LS (BBH is not always a guarantee)?

5) Why a multi-color site?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2009, 01:50:32 AM »

1. Because I have 12FG.

2. Because when I use it, it's either because my defense is set up to where I won't be letting them through anyway, or it's endgame and I'm using it to walk in by sniping 3 EC's per turn.

3. The only things my offense is weak against is KoT and PotW. Judges Seat takes care of that, and it scares people into keeping EC's in their hand and playing other cards they maybe shouldn't.

3b. I've never missed it when I nuked it and never nuked it when I needed it.

4. Because I also have SoG, NJ and Burial. This is also why I can afford Capture.

5. To use the site-guard LS on, or in case I run into another Sitelock.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2009, 01:54:53 AM »

The Color Guard only works in a single color site, additionally I wouldn't worry about another site-lock as you can use your site-stealer's to nab a site and gain access using it.

The Guardian · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2009, 02:01:55 AM »

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additionally I wouldn't worry about another site-lock as you can use your site-stealer's to nab a site and gain access using it.

Until they steal it back...

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2009, 02:24:56 AM »

Site guard, not color guard.

Master KChief · « **Reply #21 on:** August 25, 2009, 03:35:09 AM »

i agree, capturing might not be a good idea for a site deck.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #22 on:** August 25, 2009, 04:05:31 AM »

I have ONE capture enhancement that's only used to 1. get me a soul or 2. snipe the last of the EC's endgame to get me all the souls I need. Offensive capture is more justifiable than defensive.

The Guardian · « **Reply #23 on:** August 25, 2009, 01:41:19 PM »

I'm not sure what you would take out, but I'm a big fan of Bringing Fear. One thing to not forget about sitelock is you need some ways to deal with Site access characters.

Ironica · « **Reply #24 on:** August 25, 2009, 03:45:58 PM »

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1. Because I have 12FG.

Relying on one EC to stop people abusing you own hero is not always a wise thing.

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2. Because when I use it, it's either because my defense is set up to where I won't be letting them through anyway, or it's endgame and I'm using it to walk in by sniping 3 EC's per turn.

However, it's not always a garuntee that you will get all the cards needed to help against having more LS in your territory

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3. The only things my offense is weak against is KoT and PotW. Judges Seat takes care of that, and it scares people into keeping EC's in their hand and playing other cards they maybe shouldn't.

True

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4. Because I also have SoG, NJ and Burial. This is also why I can afford Capture.

but you will not always have them when needed (especially if you draw more LS than sites at first)

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5. To use the site-guard LS on, or in case I run into another Sitelock.

Another site lock deck would laugh at your one access site and one hero.

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Author Topic: Sitelock/Judges (Read 4903 times)

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