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« on: October 03, 2011, 04:54:33 PM »
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I do not have Mayhem or King David or they'd already be in here  :'( I'd love to fit in a Provisions, but I'm not sure what to take out.

52 cards

LSs 7
Revealer
3-liner
Shuffles NT LS
Wanderer
Anti-burial
Female only
Anti-Angel

Doms 10
SoG
AoTL
NJ
HT
GoYS
Grapes
DoN
CM
Burial
FA

Arts 3
CoF
Writ
Charms

Forts 1
TToD

Heroes 11
King Solomon
Armourbearer or Israelite archer which one?
David (red)
David (green)
Ismaiah
Ahimelek
King Amazing
Abby
Samuel 8)
Gideon
Angel under the Oak

Good Enhancements

Purple 2
Unified Kingdom
Valley of Salt

Yellow 2
Sammy's Edict
Deb's Directive

Red 2
Bravery of David
A soldiers Prayer

Red/Purple 1
Counsel of Abby

Neutral 1
Foreign Sword

Sites 1
DR

ECs 10
King Saul
Users of Curious Arts
Assyrian Survivor
Egyptian Magicians
Astrologers
Manny (pending a trade)
Balaam (pending a trade)
Damsel
Ammy's Slave
Women as Snares

EEs 9
Divination
Magicians Snakes
Two Thousand Horses
Words of Discouragement
Forgotten History
DoU
Achan's Sin
Confusion
Invoking Terror
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2011, 05:05:17 PM »
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Why 52?
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2011, 05:08:36 PM »
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Why 52?

I'm not sure what to take out to get it to 50, but I wanted it to be fast, so I didnt want it to be 56
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2011, 05:18:47 PM »
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52 is in the same statistical parameters as 50 (53 is when the turn jump happens), just two cards skewed towards slower. But if you want 50, I'd suggest:

Out:
Breaking Jerusalem's Wall OR IoJ
Samuel's Edict (you don't want to be attacking with Sam by himself)
The Battle is the Lord's
Dugeon of Malchiah (not CBN without Zedekiah, and you have a lot of other soul generation)

In:
Haman's Plot (too good not to use)
Peace Treaty (CBN battlewinner off TToD with Ahimelek, plus extra drawing with Ishmiah)
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2011, 05:32:03 PM »
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52 is in the same statistical parameters as 50 (53 is when the turn jump happens), just two cards skewed towards slower. But if you want 50, I'd suggest:

Out:
Breaking Jerusalem's Wall OR IoJ
Samuel's Edict (you don't want to be attacking with Sam by himself)
The Battle is the Lord's
Dugeon of Malchiah (not CBN without Zedekiah, and you have a lot of other soul generation)

In:
Haman's Plot (too good not to use)
Peace Treaty (CBN battlewinner off TToD with Ahimelek, plus extra drawing with Ishmiah)

I'll need it at 51 because of the Plot. King David would destroy the defense with IoJ and I really like Breaking J's wall. I will take out Sammy's Edict, DoM, The Battle is the Lord's. Edited.
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 04:02:49 PM »
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I'm now considering green David and Provisions. I could probably take out DD, but I dont know what else. Any suggestions?
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 04:05:17 PM »
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Why not King David? Then you benefit from the Throne of David.
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2011, 04:06:21 PM »
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Why not King David? Then you benefit from the Throne of David.

I dont have him  :'(
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 04:08:10 PM »
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That's a good reason.  ;) I'd recommend Unified Kingdom instead of Peace Treaty. You're probably going to be using the band more than the ignore anyways, and using Unified Kingdom can get you Ishmaiah AND Abby AND Ahimelek in battle, which is a great situation.
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2011, 04:22:48 PM »
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That's a good reason.  ;) I'd recommend Unified Kingdom instead of Peace Treaty. You're probably going to be using the band more than the ignore anyways, and using Unified Kingdom can get you Ishmaiah AND Abby AND Ahimelek in battle, which is a great situation.

Yeah, I'll try that, but the reason I was using Peace Treaty is it can be a battle winner off TToD.
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2011, 04:24:16 PM »
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Off TToD, UK is also a battlewinner with Ahimelek.
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2011, 03:08:36 PM »
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Of TToD, UK is also a battlewinner with Ahimelek.

I'll try that. Edited
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 09:21:51 AM »
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Edited  :bump:
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2011, 07:04:48 PM »
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Mega update! :bump:
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2011, 07:20:12 PM »
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I'll need it at 51 because of the Plot.

Why do you need 51 because of Haman's Plot? I'm guessing because of the ripping factor. But, what if you have Haman's Gallows? Can you then have a 50 card deck with plot?
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2011, 07:21:55 PM »
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I'll need it at 51 because of the Plot.

Why do you need 51 because of Haman's Plot? I'm guessing because of the ripping factor. But, what if you have Haman's Gallows? Can you then have a 50 card deck with plot?

If you rip a plot in a 50 card deck, then it is no longer legal. But if you had Gallows, then you wouldn't rip it, and the deck would remain legal. 
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Re: Sam/Kings
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2011, 11:57:18 PM »
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I'll need it at 51 because of the Plot.

Why do you need 51 because of Haman's Plot? I'm guessing because of the ripping factor. But, what if you have Haman's Gallows? Can you then have a 50 card deck with plot?
I don't think that Haman's Gallows would be worth the slot in this deck. But yes it would have to be 51 because if you ripped it then your deck would be 49 cards in a tournament.

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Re: MagicSam
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2011, 05:13:03 AM »
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51 without gallows is better than 50 with. Gallows is mostly a dead card whose only purpose is allowing you to play Plot (which you won't be able to play until you get Gallows). Doing 51 with no Gallows nets you 2 useful cards and the ability to play Plot whenever you need to.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: MagicSam
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2011, 09:20:32 AM »
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Guys, try to stay on the topic. this thread is about my deck, not HP and Gallows
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Re: MagicSam
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2011, 10:42:53 AM »
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Guys, try to stay on the topic. this thread is about my deck, not HP and Gallows
Guys look at the decklist, he doesn't have Gallows anymore.

Looks like a fun deck. Pretty solid.
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Re: MagicSam
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2011, 01:52:19 PM »
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Guys, try to stay on the topic. this thread is about my deck, not HP and Gallows
Guys look at the decklist, he doesn't have Gallows anymore.

Looks like a fun deck. Pretty solid.

Yeah I hope so. I'm not sure I have the mix the right. I'll probably exchange a little defense for more offense once I test it. I dont know if 5 battle winners is enough.
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Re: MagicSam
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2011, 05:03:58 PM »
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5 should be enough, plus SoG/NJ for the win.
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