Author Topic: Rate my Type I deck please? (Read 8159 times)

johnall4god · « **on:** January 19, 2009, 11:49:38 AM »

Alright, I have a Type I with 105 cards in it. I think it's good. I have a total my totals are that 29 of 75 "fighters" i guess you'd call it are either evil or heroes, with the remaining 46 being enhancements. All my evil characters are pink and black brigade and all my heroes are silver and yellow brigade, with some multicolored enhancements thrown in. Is this a good balance? Let me know. Thanks!

***Updated***
Cards in deck: 54

Lost Souls: 7
Lost Soul (Place Soul Beneath)
Lost Soul (Protected Women and SoG)
Lost Soul
Lost Soul
Lost Soul
Lost Soul
Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 3
Angel of the Lord
New Jerusalem
Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 2
Burial
Christian Martyr

Fortresses: 1
Solomon's Temple

Sites: 3
Samaria
Tree of Knowledge
Garden of Eden

Artifacts: 2
Altar of Ahaz
Temple Veil

Multi-color Hero Enhancements: 4
Shoes of Peace
Pillar of a Cloud
Pillar of Fire
Fountains of Living Water

Bi-Colored Hero Enhancements: 1
Godspeed (Gold/Silver)

Silver Heroes: 4
Swift
Reassuring Angel
Angel of Revelation
Liberating Angel

Silver Hero Enhancements: 4
Sword of the Fighter
Angelic News
War in Heaven
The Sixth Seal

Gold Heroes: 3
Luke
Obed-Edom the Gittite
Apollos

Gold Hero Enhancements: 3
Fear of the Lord
Faith as Children
Love of Jesus

Pink Evil Characters: 4
King Merodachbaladan
Red Dragon
Alexander the Coopersmith
Whore of Babylon

Pink Evil Enhancements: 5
Selfish Ambition
Going to their Deaths
Peter's Lie
Stormy Seas
Coliseum Lions

Black Evil Characters: 4
Goliath
Strong Demon
High Priest Caiaphas
Herod the Great

Black Evil Enhancements: 4
Three Crosses
Ferocious Attack
Knocked to the Ground
Ancient Evil

michael/michaelssword · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:39:23 PM »

horid make it 56 card deck 7 souls 7 heroes 7 Evil Characters 7 good enhancements 7 Evil enhancements 7 Doms (Gaurdian of your souls,,Son of God,New Jerusalem,Christian Martyr,Falling Away,Burial,Destrustion of Nehushtan)7 sites 7 Artifacts

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:44:05 PM »

Ignore Caleb's negativity and cookie-cutter deck. You can make your deck however you like, especially as a new player. Could you break down the numbers of characters and enhancements a little more (like by brigade)? Any specifics about names would be helpful.

We'll get you where you need to be in no time.

michael/michaelssword · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:45:15 PM »

what about holders heroes (or whatever that site is) everyone new follows that

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:46:12 PM »

Quote from: xCaLeBx on January 19, 2009, 12:45:15 PM

what about holders heroes (or whatever that site is) everyone new follows that

As long as they know where to look....

Perhaps you could provide a link.

johnall4god · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:11:36 PM »

11 Pink Skull Enhancements
6 Pink Evil Characters

7 Black Evil Characters
9 Black Skull Enhancements

6 Silver Heroes
10 Silver Bible Enhancements

9 Gold (or Yellow) Heroes
11 Gold (or Yellow) Bible Enhancements

13 Lost Souls (one is a double lost soul)
4 Sites
2 Fortresses
1 Silver/Yellow Bible Enhancement
5 Dominants
2 Artifacts
3 Multicolored Brigade Enhancements

I only have 104 and I'm missing a card somewhere, but this is a general outline though

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:33:18 PM »

Some advice:

Try not to make your deck bigger than maybe 70 cards at first.

Your enhancements ratio is currently around 2 enhancements per character. You want to bring that down a little. Most "good" decks tend to have an almost equal number of characters and enhancements.

Good luck! Oh and try this for some help

www.holderheroes.com

johnall4god · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:37:46 PM »

I have a question. Aren't you supposed to have lots of enhancements for your characters, that way they can win?

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:00:25 PM »

yes, but it really stinks when you have a lot of enhancements with no characters to play them on.

I also agree that smaller decks are good. I would recommend 56, but 63 works ok too. The reason smaller decks work best is because you draw your best cards faster. Especially as a newer player, you don't have a huge collection of great cards. Why not draw them 90% of the time instead of 50% of the time and instead drawing not so great cards.

Slightly off topic, but how long has it been since a deck >56 won Nats?

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by pink. There isn't a pink brigade (yet). Also, the double lost soul counts only as 1 lost soul when you build your deck.

Have fun!
Cameron

johnall4god · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:04:50 PM »

Well that makes sense. And hey, I happened to buy about 70 booster packs, so I think I have some good cards

Well for the brigade color, isn't there red and pink? Or is it just red and light red?

michael/michaelssword · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:16:29 PM »

crimson is what he means

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:22:51 PM »

ah, Caleb gi. Red is the good brigade, and crimson is the evil brigade.

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And hey, I happened to buy about 70 booster packs, so I think I have some good cards

Sweet! That's great.

One helpful thing to do now IMO is to post the entire deck. Here is an example of what a posted deck looks like:
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=13952.0

This allows everyone to comment on your deck and suggest cards to put in/take out. This really helps your deck progress. You can see from the link I posted how that happened on my deck.

Probably the easiest way to do this is to use RTS (redemption table simulator) In the deck editor, you can create a deck summary that works pretty well (unfortunately, i sometimes messes up however). That will pre-format a deck summary you can post here if you want.
Cameron

johnall4god · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:30:54 PM »

Sounds good. I tried downloading the simulator before and it said it had an error and had to close. I'll try fixing my deck now.

(Oh, and thanks for letting me know pink is crimson. lol. I always wondered why cards said "crimson" brigade. lol)

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:35:00 PM »

RTS is definitely not a error free program. However, this guide should help:
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=12218.0

Cameron

johnall4god · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:44:06 PM »

I'll check it out then. I just cut my deck down about 25 cards. lol. Uff, I still need more taken out. lol

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:45:29 PM »

You have about 80 cards then? That's a good start. Getting it down to 50-70 will help immensely.

johnall4god · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2009, 03:00:06 PM »

Alright, I have it down to 50 cards. I'll post them now.

johnall4god · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2009, 03:26:58 PM »

Check first post

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2009, 03:30:36 PM »

I rate it illegal. You can only have 56 cards with 7 ls.

Honestly though, it seems you are pretty new so I am going to let you in a secret. Numbers usually don't win battles, but special abilities always do. Unless you have some awesome scheme I am not seeing.

michael/michaelssword · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2009, 03:33:13 PM »

mebbe he could start of with some FBTN and some multi-color enhs

johnall4god · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2009, 03:34:41 PM »

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on January 19, 2009, 03:30:36 PM

I rate it illegal. You can only have 56 cards with 7 ls.

Honestly though, it seems you are pretty new so I am going to let you in a secret. Numbers usually don't win battles, but special abilities always do. Unless you have some awesome scheme I am not seeing.

Oh, oops, sorry didn't see that. Well, how would that not work? It could win any battle.

JSB23 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2009, 04:50:38 PM »

If you have big numbers your opponent can play anything they want and yo can't stop them

johnall4god · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2009, 04:54:15 PM »

Oh, I see. Good point. So should there be a mix of really strong and sorta weak.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #23 on:** January 19, 2009, 05:34:53 PM »

Hi John, and welcome to the forum (a bit late).

I see that you are a new player and you have really jumped in (getting on the forum, buying a bunch of booster packs, and already seeking advice). You have the makings of a great player.

Let me take you through a typical progression of players.

Stage 1 - "the bigger the better" Players quickly learn that the bigger guy wins the battle so they make decks with as many big guys as they can and as many big enhancements that they can. (example: Angel decks)

Stage 2 - "the pen is mightier than the sword" Players learn that their huge 10/10 character can be instantly killed by a 1/1 character with an enhancement that says to "discard" him. So they make either add a bunch of "negating" enhancements in their decks to stop those from killing their big guys, or they make decks with all little guys so that they can play the "discarding" cards first. (example: FBN decks)

Stage 3 - "you can't touch this" Players learn that there are some cards and characters that make those "discard" type abilities so that they can't be negated. So they make decks with little characters and those so that they can't be stopped. (example: Splash decks)

Stage 4 - "homey don't play dat" Players learn that if they can ignore someone before the battle begins or be protected, that the other player has to just sit and watch them take lost souls. (example: The Garden Tomb and Z-temple decks)

Stage 5 - "the best of all possible worlds" Players learn to assimilate parts of each of these into a cohesive whole which is greater than the sum of its parts. At this point they are ready to win at all levels and inspire all those who play them. (example: Gabe decks)

johnall4god · « **Reply #24 on:** January 19, 2009, 05:41:54 PM »

wow. that's very helpful! Thanks!

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