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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: browarod on July 21, 2011, 06:02:59 PM
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Just looking for some last minute advice before taking this deck to nationals.
The only issue I've really faced with this is if I don't draw characters (or if the ones I have get discarded/shuffled) then I'm screwed. I'm thinking of adding the covenant/curse that search for characters, but I don't know what to take out to put either/both in. I'd also like to find room for Harvest Time if possible. Notes on individual cards in italics.
Cards in Deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
Shut Door
1st round
Female-only
Deck discard
Beggar
Wanderer
Revealer
Sites: 4
Golgotha
CP
Herod's Dungeon
Ends of the Earth (never really need in my playgroup)
Dominants: 8
Grapes
AotL
GoYS
SoG
NJ
CM
DoN
FA
Fortresses: 2
Herod's Temple
Obadiah's Caves
Artifacts: 5
Lampstand
Chariot of Fire
Unholy Writ
Hidden Treasures
Gifts
Heroes: 8
Hur
Simeon
John the Baptist
Anna
Habakkuk
Micah
Seraph
Gabriel (Di)
Good Enhancements: 8
Search
Baptism of Jesus
Two Bears
Provisions
Plague of Frogs
Birth Foretold
Striking Herod
Gabriel meets Zecharias
Evil Characters: 7
Herodias
Salome
Herod Philip II
Herod the Great
Archelaus
Herod Agrippa II
KoT (gold)
Evil Enhancements: 7
Beheaded
Escape to Egypt
Swift Horses
Wonders Forgotten
Moses kills Egyptian
Imprisoned
Herod's Treachery
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Deck Discard LS is always good because it makes your opponent +1 closer to drawing a soul to rescue. Instead of hand discard and site doubler, I'd use Site Guard and Female Only. I'd also use First Round or Pigs instead of Shuffler since you plan on having souls in sites and lack 2-line.
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I don't have the shuffler, I have the one from Disciples that shuffles a NT LS when it's rescued, sorry for the confusion.
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It would be good to fit in Burial and Doubler. The doubler is just to good of a block to not put in and can really punish people for droping the big two early.
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I don't have the shuffler, I have the one from Disciples that shuffles a NT LS when it's rescued, sorry for the confusion.
That's either the shut door or the beggar. Look at the art to tell, I can't remember offhand.
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beggar.
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Not that it really matters this much, I fixed the decklist. Can we move to suggestions now? lol
I can definitely put the 2-liner in, though in the case of Burial I left it out since I usually have Lampstand up all the time (also why I don't use Mayhem in here anymore) and getting rid of 1 Lost Soul wouldn't really have helped me other than maybe once as long as I've been using this deck.
I'll look into doing the LS swap that Pol suggested as well.
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UPDATE bump.
Swapped the Lost Souls a little as well as exchanged an evil enhancement for a good one. Still not sure about the Souls since I have 2 sites, no 2/3-liner, no shuffler, etc.
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It doesn't seem to me like you have enough heroes. If anything, I would make the hero to enhancement ratio 8:8 instead of 7:9
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Do you have a suggestion for who to add? The only other hero I've thought about for this deck is Nathan, so I guess I could think about adding him back in, though not sure what to take out.
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I would add two hero. Habakkuk and TSA. TSA is just an all around good hero and with striking herod he is really good. Habakkuk is a nice because it can get around chump blocks like uzzah, kill nasty ECs (Goliath, Garrison, and Nergal come to mind), and it can get around KOTW so you can use provisions. You can take out Spiritual 4square and Gabrial meets zach.
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I would add two hero. Habakkuk and TSA. TSA is just an all around good hero and with striking herod he is really good. Habakkuk is a nice because it can get around chump blocks like uzzah, kill nasty ECs (Goliath, Garrison, and Nergal come to mind), and it can get around KOTW so you can use provisions. You can take out Spiritual 4square and Gabrial meets zach.
The federal commission of TH3 UNF0RG1V4BL3 approves of this post. Haha did you take my spiritual "4square" thing?
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I can't believe two of you now have suggested taking out a card that lets me pre-block ignore all human evil characters. Am I missing something?
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GoGo.
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I know it isn't exactly a standard meta, but at my playgroup I'm the only one that runs Golgotha (that I know of). Unless it's running rampant out there in every other playgroup (and, thus, at Nats) I don't think it's worth taking SW out.
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I forsee GoGo's everywhere...
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GoGo's?
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GoGo's?
Golgothas
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ohhh ok.. yeah i can see GoGo's at nats as well.
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I would add two hero. Habakkuk and TSA. TSA is just an all around good hero and with striking herod he is really good.
TSA negates Striking Herod....or do you mean just for the 7/0?
EDIT: For better or worse, I've swapped Spiritual Warfare out for Habakkuk.
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Yeah, a 17/8 btn hero will mutual almost anything.
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I only have the Kings one, is that sufficient or is the Warriors one necessary? I know the Warriors one is better for this situation, I just dunno how likely I am to get one before Nats.
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The Warriors one is better. The Kings one falls to any horses, any WC bander (mostly Archers), and the suicide Kings (and emperor, whatever).
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Side question: Is Ends of the Earth something I should keep, or will I not really have to deal with site access? In the playgroup I attend I don't think I've ever had to put EotE in battle for site access a single time since I started using this deck (2 or 3 tourneys ago).
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EotE will be needed at NATS
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There's a lot of site stall nowadays. EotE wouldn't help against a dedicated site-lock deck, but it's still useful.
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Alright so site access stays.
Had this thought earlier: am I missing A New Beginning?
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In T1, ANB can ruin some strats that require set up. It's also lots of fun in general.
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Does that mean I should try and find a place for it? lol
I'm having trouble as it is with what to take out for TSA (assuming I can get one), though it'll probably be Gabe Meets Zach. I wouldn't have any idea what to swap for ANB.
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I don't really see this deck doing well with ANB. I don't like just tossing in an ANB, but that's just me.
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I don't really see this deck doing well with ANB. I don't like just tossing in an ANB, but that's just me.
That was actually my thinking as well, so I guess I'll put ANB back in my binder. :P
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Great! Now you have to shuffle your binder!
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Great! Now you have to shuffle your binder!
UGH! I just recently finished alphabetizing my promos/ultras. :'(