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Title: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: browarod on November 29, 2009, 11:27:57 PM: This deck is just fine for the local tourneys I use it for in real life, but it just doesn't seem to cut it in ROOT games on RTS.

I needz halp.

Cards in Deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
Female-only
Anti-Burial
Revealer
Lost Souls (2-Line)
N.T.-only
Wanderer
Shuffler
Punisher

Lamb: 4
SoG
NJ
Angel
Grapes of Wrath

Reaper: 4
Martyr
Burial
Nehushtan
Falling Away

Fortresses: 2
Headquarters at Riblah
Raider's Camp

Sites: 2
Dragon Raid (Multi)
Hormah (Blue)

Artifacts: 4
Chariot of Fire
Unholy Writ
Stone Pillar at Bethel
Darius' Decree

Curses: 1
Go Into Captivity (Crimson)

Blue Heroes: 7
Zebulun
Simeon
Asher
Jacob
Benjamin
Levi
Leah

Silver Heroes: 1
Angel at Shur (Promo)

Blue Hero Enhancements: 8
Sign of the Rainbow
Abraham’s Servant to Ur
Answer to Prayer
Jacob Buries the Foreign gods
Obedience of Noah
Reuben's Torn Clothes
Numerous as the Stars
Buying Grain

Crimson Evil Characters: 9
The Imperial Guard
Nebushasban
Nebuchadnezzar
King Merodach-baladan
Nergalsharezer
Red Dragon
Babylonian Forces
Ashpenaz
Leviathan

Multicolor Evil Characters: 2
Astrologers (Crimson/Pale Green)
The Winged Lion (Crimson/Orange)

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 11
Desecrate the Temple
Head of Gold
Dream
Carried Into Exile
Nebuchadnzzar's Pride
Swift Horses
Imitating Evil
Apprehended
Midianite Attack
Set Fire
Nebuchadnezzar's Dream
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: Sean on November 29, 2009, 11:43:28 PM: It loses against higher competition because it is slow. Personally, I'd boost the defense by adding 3 Characters and 3 Enhancements with a Lost Soul. Dump Harvest Time for Darius' Decree or Hezekiah's Signet Ring (I've played a few games with this and it is surprisingly helpful against a lot of stuff).
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: browarod on November 29, 2009, 11:47:24 PM: I swapped HT for DD. Any suggestion on the EC/EH/LS?

I rather like having it at 56, but if you think 60 is the only way to make it better I suppose I can increase. I just don't see how adding more cards will make it any less slow.
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: Sean on November 30, 2009, 12:06:22 AM: You can't really make the deck faster without really changing it up IMO, that's why I think it better to beef up the D and just expect to be slow.

Babylonian Forces
Archers of Kedar
Leviathan
Midianite Attack
Set Fire
Nebuchadnezzar's Dream
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on November 30, 2009, 12:23:46 AM: Quote from: Sean on November 30, 2009, 12:06:22 AM

Babylonian Forces
~~Archers of Kedar~~ Ashpenaz
Leviathan
Midianite Attack
Set Fire
Nebuchadnezzar's Dream

He would work better he also can boost up your d a lot. He is awesome with Raider's Camp. Archers is awesome but not as good as Ashpenaz XD
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: browarod on November 30, 2009, 01:56:35 AM: Added the 7 cards, with 3-liner's substitution of Ashpenaz.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I guess playtesting will be necessary to see if it makes any difference.
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on November 30, 2009, 10:12:21 AM: Quote from: browarod on November 30, 2009, 01:56:35 AM
Added the 7 cards, with 3-liner's substitution of Ashpenaz.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I guess playtesting will be necessary to see if it makes any difference.

Leviathan is a beast in Bab decks. He is an animal, not human nor beast/demon so 3 Nails won't stop it and it can't be captured. And the 12/12 doesn't hurt much either XD
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: browarod on November 30, 2009, 10:56:59 AM: Yeah, we'll see how he works out :P

Also, the last game I played, my opponent mentioned an uncertainty of having Abram/Abraham in here. Does anyone have a suggestion for a better hero to replace him with?
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on November 30, 2009, 11:06:16 AM: Angel at Shur comes to mind - He'll speed up your deck by getting your heroes out - he's also Genesis, so he doesn't mess up Ben or Zeb.
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: browarod on November 30, 2009, 11:11:20 AM: Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on November 30, 2009, 11:06:16 AM
Angel at Shur comes to mind - He'll speed up your deck by getting your heroes out - he's also Genesis, so he doesn't mess up Ben or Zeb.
Ooh, you totally rock! I had completely forgotten about him. *adds him straight away*

I may actually just sub him in and see how that improves the speed before actually adding the 7 new defense cards to the deck.

Would the speed be better by subbing out Stone Pillar for Pentecost? I like the combo of Stone Pillar with Asher to recur what I discard, but last night showed that it only helps in some situations.
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on November 30, 2009, 11:14:51 AM: Well, I'm not sure it was so much the situation, as what you did - Stone Pillar should be used to pull out Dom's like Angel of the Lord or New Jerusalem, you don't (IMO) trash off 'Jacob Buries the Foriegn Gods' to search for 'Answer to Prayer'
Title: Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
Post by: browarod on November 30, 2009, 11:20:11 AM: Well, the problem was that I already had NJ and Angel in my hand. I guess I should have just left it deactivated.

Also, nevermind about Pentecost, I mixed up a few cards.