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Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« on: November 29, 2009, 11:27:57 PM »
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This deck is just fine for the local tourneys I use it for in real life, but it just doesn't seem to cut it in ROOT games on RTS.

I needz halp.

Cards in Deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
  Female-only
  Anti-Burial
  Revealer
  Lost Souls (2-Line)
  N.T.-only
  Wanderer
  Shuffler
  Punisher

Lamb: 4
  SoG
  NJ
  Angel
  Grapes of Wrath

Reaper: 4
  Martyr
  Burial
  Nehushtan
  Falling Away

Fortresses: 2
  Headquarters at Riblah
  Raider's Camp

Sites: 2
  Dragon Raid (Multi)
  Hormah (Blue)
 
Artifacts: 4
  Chariot of Fire
  Unholy Writ
  Stone Pillar at Bethel
  Darius' Decree

Curses: 1
  Go Into Captivity (Crimson)

Blue Heroes: 7
  Zebulun
  Simeon
  Asher
  Jacob
  Benjamin
  Levi
  Leah

Silver Heroes: 1
  Angel at Shur (Promo)

Blue Hero Enhancements: 8
  Sign of the Rainbow
  Abraham’s Servant to Ur
  Answer to Prayer
  Jacob Buries the Foreign gods
  Obedience of Noah
  Reuben's Torn Clothes
  Numerous as the Stars
  Buying Grain
 
Crimson Evil Characters: 9
  The Imperial Guard
  Nebushasban
  Nebuchadnezzar
  King Merodach-baladan
  Nergalsharezer
  Red Dragon
  Babylonian Forces
  Ashpenaz
  Leviathan

Multicolor Evil Characters: 2
  Astrologers (Crimson/Pale Green)
  The Winged Lion (Crimson/Orange)

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 11
  Desecrate the Temple
  Head of Gold
  Dream
  Carried Into Exile
  Nebuchadnzzar's Pride
  Swift Horses
  Imitating Evil
  Apprehended
  Midianite Attack
  Set Fire
  Nebuchadnezzar's Dream
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2009, 11:43:28 PM »
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It loses against higher competition because it is slow.  Personally, I'd boost the defense by adding 3 Characters and 3 Enhancements with a Lost Soul.  Dump Harvest Time for Darius' Decree or Hezekiah's Signet Ring (I've played a few games with this and it is surprisingly helpful against a lot of stuff).
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2009, 11:47:24 PM »
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I swapped HT for DD. Any suggestion on the EC/EH/LS?

I rather like having it at 56, but if you think 60 is the only way to make it better I suppose I can increase. I just don't see how adding more cards will make it any less slow.
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 12:06:22 AM »
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You can't really make the deck faster without really changing it up IMO, that's why I think it better to beef up the D and just expect to be slow.

Babylonian Forces
Archers of Kedar
Leviathan
Midianite Attack
Set Fire
Nebuchadnezzar's Dream
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2009, 12:23:46 AM »
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Quote from: Sean on November 30, 2009, 12:06:22 AM

Babylonian Forces
Archers of Kedar Ashpenaz
Leviathan
Midianite Attack
Set Fire
Nebuchadnezzar's Dream

He would work better he also can boost up your d a lot. He is awesome with Raider's Camp. Archers is awesome but not as good as Ashpenaz XD
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2009, 01:56:35 AM »
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Added the 7 cards, with 3-liner's substitution of Ashpenaz.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I guess playtesting will be necessary to see if it makes any difference.
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2009, 10:12:21 AM »
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Quote from: browarod on November 30, 2009, 01:56:35 AM
Added the 7 cards, with 3-liner's substitution of Ashpenaz.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I guess playtesting will be necessary to see if it makes any difference.

Leviathan is a beast in Bab decks. He is an animal, not human nor beast/demon so 3 Nails won't stop it and it can't  be captured. And the 12/12 doesn't hurt much either XD
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2009, 10:56:59 AM »
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Yeah, we'll see how he works out :P

Also, the last game I played, my opponent mentioned an uncertainty of having Abram/Abraham in here. Does anyone have a suggestion for a better hero to replace him with?
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 11:06:16 AM »
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Angel at Shur comes to mind - He'll speed up your deck by getting your heroes out - he's also Genesis, so he doesn't mess up Ben or Zeb.
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 11:11:20 AM »
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Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on November 30, 2009, 11:06:16 AM
Angel at Shur comes to mind - He'll speed up your deck by getting your heroes out - he's also Genesis, so he doesn't mess up Ben or Zeb.
Ooh, you totally rock! I had completely forgotten about him. *adds him straight away*

I may actually just sub him in and see how that improves the speed before actually adding the 7 new defense cards to the deck.

Would the speed be better by subbing out Stone Pillar for Pentecost? I like the combo of Stone Pillar with Asher to recur what I discard, but last night showed that it only helps in some situations.
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 11:14:51 AM »
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Well, I'm not sure it was so much the situation, as what you did - Stone Pillar should be used to pull out Dom's like Angel of the Lord or New Jerusalem, you don't (IMO) trash off 'Jacob Buries the Foriegn Gods' to search for 'Answer to Prayer'
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Re: Old Deck Needs Reevaluation
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 11:20:11 AM »
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Well, the problem was that I already had NJ and Angel in my hand. I guess I should have just left it deactivated.

Also, nevermind about Pentecost, I mixed up a few cards.
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