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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: Platinum_Angel on December 27, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
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Hello, my name is Nathan Wilson and since February of 2009 I have been off and on the message boards starting my Redemption Collection and learning the game. I have had the help of some VERY experienced players (you know who you are ;)) who have guided me in the right direction. With their support, some praying and faith in God, I have made a somewhat "starter" collection of sorts. Gabe PM'ed me last year about a kid who had remnant's of a collection that lived not to far away from me. Nathan Schiro and his parents and moved into Cheyenne, WY from back east. I contacted Nathan and not soon afterwords I purchased his collection to sponsor his mission. Thanks to Gabe for the PM!
I am going to list a deck that he used to play. Prof Underwood may remember this deck very well so i suppose he might just have a comment or two ;D. Anyway the deck is compromised of cards before RoA so it needs a little updating to include: RoA, TexP and Deciples. Feel free to comment but PLEASE keep it FUN and PROFESSIONAL!!!
Now, I know the lost souls need to be updated but I would like to keep the Red Warrior Class theme in Nathan's Honor!
The defense can be changed to a different brigade or brigades or left Grey but with better cards.
57 Cards!
Lost Soul Cards
II Chor 28:13 (Hopper)
II Chor 15:4 (*/4 or greater) Jeremiah 11:8 (can't be prevented)
Ezekiel 31:14 (shuffler)
Ezek 34:6 (exchanger)
Gal 3:13 (Anti-Burial)
Jer 7:18 (female only)
Provervs 22:14 (3-Liner)
Rom 3:23 (revealer)
Lamb Dominants
Angel of the Lord (AotL)
Guardian of Your Souls (GoyS)
Harvest Time (HT)
New Jerusalem (NJ)
Son of God (SoG)
Reaper Dominants
Burial
Christian Martyr (CM)
Falling Away (FA)
Artifacts
Chariot of Fire (CoF)
Holy Grail
Curses
Confusion of Mind
Sites
Dragon Raid
Fortresses
Raiders Camp
Red Hero’s
Abishai (ki) warrior class
Adino (ki) warrior class
Amasai the Raider (FooF) warrior class
Jephthah (pa)
Joab (p) The Centurion at Capernaum (tp) warrior class
Recruiting Officer (ki) warrior class The Centurion at Calvary (di) warrior class
Spy (ki) warrior class Asahel (tp) warrior class
Red Enhancements
Adino’s Spear (ki) warrior class
Baggage (prophets) Centurion's Proclamation (di)
Counsel of Abigail (w) David’s Mighty Men (FooF)
Freedom (f deck)
Holy Ground (f deck) A Soldier’s Prayer (TP)
Jael’s Nail (w) David's Triumph (Di)
Mustering for War (ki)
Power of the Cross (pi)
The Might of Faith (pi)
Multicolor Hero’s
Seeker of the Lost (The Salvation Army Promo)
Grey Evil Characters
Abihu (pi)
Emperor Nero (ap)
False Priests (pi)
Lying Spirit (f deck)
Naaman (FooF) warrior class
Nadab (pi)
Sabbath Breaker (pi)
Shadow (aw)
Syrian Archer (ki) warrior class
Grey Evil Enhancements
Deadly Snare (pi)
Deluge of Rain (f deck)
Demonic Snare (aw)
False Peace (prophets)
Israel Pays Tribute (ki)
Namaan’s Chariot and Horses (FooF) warrior class
Snare (unlimited)
Syrian Victory (ki)
Multicolor Evil Enhancements
Lying Unto God
Thank you ahead of time for your help and support.
Nate
P.S. Since Nathan Schiro sold his cards and moved away he was the only one I knew in the whole state of Wyoming that played. I am the only one in Casper, WY that I can find. It's a little tough to play against yourself. And since there is no card market I am having to save my money and buy what I can afford. I am hoping I can get Redemption to be known in the churches in this area so we can start a play group. Also I have to convince the local Christian store to stock a little product so the people can purchase it.
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These are some suggestions to make your red warrior class offense a bit stronger:
GC's:
Spy out, Asahel (TP) in
Recruting Officer out, The Centurion at Calvary (Di) in
Joab out, The Centurion at Capernaum (TP) in
GE's:
Baggage out, Centurion's Proclamation (Di) in
Holy Ground out, A Soldier’s Prayer (TP) in
Counsel of Abigail out, David’s Mighty Men (FF) in
Jael's Nail out, David's Triumph (Di) in
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I was thinking the same thing on the RED Hero's.
I am glad we think alike.
Thank you for your input.
What about the Lost Souls?
Are they outdated?
What are the most common played with the new environment?
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well most of them are still rather decent but the */4 and the shuffler don't see much play anymore but are definitely usable. i would say to switch the shuffler for a Speed Bump and the */4 for the CBP Ls from ROA in set XI which is nice plus set XI has good Red heroes and a pale green defense if you were thinking of trying that at all so set XI would be good for you to use.
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Thanks for the info on the RoA XI set. I will put that on my want list.
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Speed Bump almost never does anything. Keep Shuffler, and keep Spy. If you were gone for three sets, you may be happy to discover that Spy holding Warrior's Spear will now successfully topdeck.
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I am hoping I can get Redemption to be known in the churches in this area so we can start a play group. Also I have to convince the local Christian store to stock a little product so the people can purchase it.
If you are successful in starting a small playgroup, but unsuccessful with finding a store to stock product, there are plenty of people here online (myself included) that can help you out with that. Keep us posted on how it goes with starting a playgroup. :)
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I do remember this deck. Nate had 2 decks that he brought to tourneys, this one and a FBTN one. I also had 2 decks back then, my regular one, and my anti-FBTN one. When he and I met in tourneys it was always a guessing game as to which of their 2 decks the other person would play. Good times.
As for suggestions, I would trade:
GOYS for Grapes of Wrath
Falling Away for Destruction of Nehustan
Holy Grail for Captured Ark
and the Syrian grey defense for an Emperor grey defense (I'll let Pol give the details there)
I also agree with Pol that Spy should stay in there. Take out Raider's Camp to give him a spot.
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I do remember this deck. Nate had 2 decks that he brought to tourneys, this one and a FBTN one. I also had 2 decks back then, my regular one, and my anti-FBTN one. When he and I met in tourneys it was always a guessing game as to which of their 2 decks the other person would play. Good times.
As for suggestions, I would trade:
GOYS for Grapes of Wrath
Falling Away for Destruction of Nehustan
Holy Grail for Captured Ark
and the Syrian grey defense for an Emperor grey defense (I'll let Pol give the details there)
I also agree with Pol that Spy should stay in there. Take out Raider's Camp to give him a spot.
Hehehe...yeah he still had the FBTN still put together as well. I will list that deck later but it is pretty strong still.
Are you sure you want to take out Raider's Camp? I thought it was good.
So...GoyS and FA are not staples that are needed for the deck?
I already have Holy Grail and I don't have a Captured Ark. (that's Nathan's FBTN deck)
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Speed Bump almost never does anything. Keep Shuffler, and keep Spy. If you were gone for three sets, you may be happy to discover that Spy holding Warrior's Spear will now successfully topdeck.
I was thinking of Warrior's Spear...what should i take out to put it in?
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If you're going to toss in Warrior's Spear, take out Mustering for War for that and take out Might of Faith and toss back in Spy.
added: I would also encourage you to play redemption online. Below is the link on how to get started:
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24730.0;msg=390318 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24730.0;msg=390318)
p.s. Please let us know here if you have any problems/error messages when trying to install RTS because they're usually easy to figure out.
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Thanks for posting this. You have given me some ideas for my deck. I like using red in my deck too. One hero you must consider is
Abigail(womens) and Walking on Water(promo).
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HELP!!!! I would really like this deck to be finished in Nate's Honor.
Please???? More comments and suggestions?
Thanks..
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Grey Evil Characters
Emperor Nero (ap)
Emperor Galba
Emperor Vitellius
Pontious Pilate
Emperor Augustus
Terrifying Beast
Naaman
Grey Evil Enhancements
Deluge of Rain (f deck)
False Peace (prophets)
Namaan’s Chariot and Horses (FooF) warrior class
Heavy Taxes
Night Raid
Balaam's Disobedience
Multicolor Evil Enhancements
Rome Destroys Jerusalem
also add Unholy Writ and Going into captivity
I used a defense similar to this very successfully for a year or two
It makes you less dependent on capture so prophets, Z-temple and blue tassels hurts you less and it's smaller so you can get under 56
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Thanks for the advice.
Which dominants do i need to change around?
Also is Grey defense a viable brigade? I hear Herods or orange/black are great as well. Any ideas?
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Herods and Orange/Black are good but bulkier than the defense you have, another defense you could consider is bab's.
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Also is Grey defense a viable brigade? I hear Herods or orange/black are great as well. Any ideas?
Grey plays a little differently then other brigades but it works very well once you get used to it
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All Evil Brigades are near equally playable, although some you have to mix (mono-PG or Orange is tenuous, but together they're beast). Also, Brown can be added to almost any other color.
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Or you could go more hand control with this defence.
Cards in deck: 50
Needs an offence: 12 cards
Lost Souls: 7
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (discarder)
Lost Soul (first round)
Lost Soul (revealer)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (site guard)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Grim-Reaper Dominants: 4
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away
Mayhem
Fortresses: 2
High Places
Rome
White Sites: 1
Golgotha
Red Sites: 1
Caesarea Philippi
Blue Sites: 1
Roman Prison
Artifacts: 3
Chariot of Fire
Denarius
Magic Charms
White Covenant Cards: 1
Rain Becomes Dust (Gray)
Blue Covenant Cards: 1
I am Holy
Pale Green Evil Characters: 3
Messenger of Satan
Roman Jailer
User of Curious Arts
Gray Evil Characters: 4
Emperor Augustus
Emperor Galba
Emperor Vitellius
Pontius Pilate
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
Romans Destroy Jerusalem
Pale Green Evil Enhancements: 5
Death of Unrighteous
Forgotten History
Sin in the Camp
Two Thousand Horses
Words of Discouragement
Gray Evil Enhancements: 4
Balaam's Disobedience
Casting Lots
Heavy Taxes
Namaan's Chariot and Horses
I would like to maybe incorporate Scribe, Washing Hands type abilities to break site discarder ls and wrath to kill all my heros in a pinch.
On my offence, I need something that helps discard my opponents hand and can bounce back from Wrath of Satan quickly.
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Thanks for posting.
I would recomend keeping ur deck to a total of 50-52 cards.
the saying goes "The more cards in ur deck the less chance u will have in drawing the card u need when u need it!"
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Honestly, he sold you his whole collection for a good cause I would think he would want you to make your own deck. Really this isn't his deck, half the deck has been changed. I would say come up with something you enjoy and know how to use.
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Ok?????? ...that was a total buzz killer... :-[
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It shouldn't be.
I could give you a whole bunch of cheesy sayings like "Be yourself", but that wouldn't do anything.
Just make your own deck and don't try to copy his.
Don't worry about making a perfect copy of the deck because there will always be new sets and new decks.
Also, I barely know anybody who didn't receive a lot of cards to get them started.