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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: browarod on August 19, 2009, 04:29:56 PM
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I'm gonna be attending a local tournament later this month, and the Type 1 2-player and multiplayer are at the same time, so I can only choose 1. I haven't tested this deck yet (I don't have all the cards yet), so I don't know which it would do better in, so I'm kinda stuck on which to participate in.
Cards in Deck: 56
Lamb: 6
SoG
NJ
Angel
Grapes of Wrath
Guardian
Harvest Time
Reaper: 4
Martyr
Burial
Nehushtan
Falling Away
Fortresses: 2
Headquarters at Riblah
Raider's Camp
Sites: 2
Dragon Raid (Multi)
Hormah (Blue)
Artifacts: 2
David's Harp [poor man's Chariot of Fire]
Unholy Writ
Curses: 1
Go Into Captivity (Crimson)
Blue Heroes: 8
Zebulun
Abram/Abraham
Simeon
Asher
Jacob
Benjamin
Levi
Leah
Blue Hero Enhancements: 8
Sign of the Rainbow
Abraham’s Servant to Ur
Answer to Prayer
Jubilee
Book of Hozai
Jacob Buries the Foreign gods
Obedience of Noah
Reuben's Torn Clothes
Crimson Evil Characters: 7
Ashpenaz
Nebushasban
Nebuchadnezzar
King Merodach-baladan
Nergalsharezer
The Imperial Guard
Red Dragon
Multicolor Evil Characters: 1
The Winged Lion (Crimson/Orange)
Crimson Evil Enhancements: 8
Desecrate the Temple
Head of Gold
Dream
Carried Into Exile
Nebuchadnzzar's Pride
Swift Horses
Imitating Evil
Apprehended
Lost Souls: 7
Female-only
Anti-Burial
Revealer
Lost Souls (3-Line)
N.T.-only
Exchanger
Shuffler
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for basic deck building its pretty standard to have 7 characters and 7 enhancements. So work as close to that as you can.
Also I would take a close look at your sites. you have 5ish colors i think with no clear lockout or anything. If you're gonna have RC in your deck. then go with a capture defense and cut out all the extras.
cut out table of the law.
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I took out tables of the law. I'm curious where the 7:7 ratio came from. Can you enlighten me?
As for the defense, when you say cut out all the extras, do you mean not to use any sites if I'm running RC? I'm not very good at deckbuilding, so I could use some explanation :P
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i would cut it down to AT least 63 cards.
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i would cut it down to AT least 63 cards.
Do you mean at MOST 63 cards? ;)
Also, do you have suggestions for what to cut out to get to that point?
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BIG UPDATE: I totally reworked the offense completely (except for a few enhancements) and did some cutting out of the defense. I could really use some thoughts on this new build so I can get better at deckmaking :P
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You're deck looks so much better. I would keep red dragon. why'd you ditch Harvest time?
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You're deck looks so much better. I would keep red dragon. why'd you ditch Harvest time?
I had 57 (not counting the extra LS) and couldn't figure out what else to take out. I've found that I haven't used HT much anyway. I never draw it when they don't have any LS and when I do have it, they have at least one LS (that's usually the case, anyway). Do you know what I could take out to put it back in?
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Posted a new question, hopefully I can get an answer as I'm just not sure.
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Since you do have a genesis offense, I would say Leah would be better (since, if I recall correctly, IAC got nurfed).
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Since you do have a genesis offense, I would say Leah would be better (since, if I recall correctly, IAC got nurfed).
In terms of specifically Genesis, both Leah and AaS fit the bill. Also, Leah lets me get some of them, but only if Jacob is in play; whereas AaS let's me get any of them whenever. Basically, do I want to get anyone I want once (assuming that my opponent defends against AaS and I would lose as I have no silver enhancements), or possibly get up to 3 people I could use (assuming Leah and Jacob are out together and I can defend Leah at least once).
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Leah helps Simeon's ability work. Simeon can win games.
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Leah helps Simeon's ability work. Simeon can win games.
I see what you mean.
I Am Creator has been scrapped in favor of Leah. Thanks for the advice!
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As stated above, I need advice.
Would this deck do better in 2-player or multiplayer?
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2 player. Defense in multiplayer is yucky.
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2 player. Defense in multiplayer is yucky.
Er.....okay. Does that mean I built the defense crappily? :'(
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No, your defense is fine. It just slows you down in multi. Look at the past multi-player winning decks, they will always been offense heavy with a few random blocks or support EC's. Your deck is too balanced for multi player.
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2 player. Defense in multiplayer is yucky.
Er.....okay. Does that mean I built the defense crappily? :'(
He is saying that most people don't use defenses for multi-player, and just focus on offense.
My suggestions for your deck would be:
Add 2 Babylonian ECs (Nebuchadnezzar if you can get him, hes OP)
Take out: Promised Land, And one of your blue enhancements (Dove, Book of Hozai, Jubilee seem to be your weakest ones)
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My suggestions for your deck would be:
Add 2 Babylonian ECs (Nebuchadnezzar if you can get him, hes OP)
Take out: Promised Land, And one of your blue enhancements (Dove, Book of Hozai, Jubilee seem to be your weakest ones)
I already have Nebuchadnezzar, who would you suggest for the other one?
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My suggestions for your deck would be:
Add 2 Babylonian ECs (Nebuchadnezzar if you can get him, hes OP)
Take out: Promised Land, And one of your blue enhancements (Dove, Book of Hozai, Jubilee seem to be your weakest ones)
I already have Nebuchadnezzar, who would you suggest for the other one?
Nergalsharezer and The Imperial Guard, sorry I didn't see you had Nebby.
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Nergalsharezer and The Imperial Guard, sorry I didn't see you had Nebby.
Alright, I took out Dove and Promised Land and added The Imperial Guard and Nergalsharezer.
Any other suggestions?
EDIT: Also, is there a way to work Harvest Time back in (if you think the deck could use it) and is the Site Doubler LS worth it for Hormah, or should I use a different one?
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Nergalsharezer and The Imperial Guard, sorry I didn't see you had Nebby.
Alright, I took out Dove and Promised Land and added The Imperial Guard and Nergalsharezer.
Any other suggestions?
EDIT: Also, is there a way to work Harvest Time back in (if you think the deck could use it) and is the Site Doubler LS worth it for Hormah, or should I use a different one?
You could take out Wall of Protection for Harvest Time if you think theres a need for it, not alot of cards band to blue or genesis except other genesis decks.
I would suggest 1st round (or any other good) lost soul instead of site doubler, there is a very low chance you will draw both at the same time.
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I defiantly suggest adding The Exchanger Lost Soul. In my opinion, it is one of the best souls in the game because you can make it's effect help you both offensively and defensively.
The best part is it is a common card :D
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You could take out Wall of Protection for Harvest Time if you think theres a need for it, not alot of cards band to blue or genesis except other genesis decks.
I would suggest 1st round (or any other good) lost soul instead of site doubler, there is a very low chance you will draw both at the same time.
Okay, I'll look into changing those. One thing I forgot to ask earlier was whether or not Jerusalem Tower would be needed.
I defiantly suggest adding The Exchanger Lost Soul. In my opinion, it is one of the best souls in the game because you can make it's effect help you both offensively and defensively.
The best part is it is a common card :D
Ah, makes sense. I'll use that instead.
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Jerusalem's Tower is not by any means "needed". It is awesome when you have it and you get it up early against an Egyptian Deck, but most of those have Spreading Mildew to stop it.... ::)
Whenever I've used J Tower, I found it pretty much a dead card. I personally wouldn't recommend the card.
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Jerusalem's Tower is not by any means "needed". It is awesome when you have it and you get it up early against an Egyptian Deck, but most of those have Spreading Mildew to stop it.... ::)
Whenever I've used J Tower, I found it pretty much a dead card. I personally wouldn't recommend the card.
Kk, duly noted.
Alright, recent edits added. How's it look now?
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try adding helmet of brass for levi to use. i dont know what i would pitch however.
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try adding helmet of brass for levi to use. i dont know what i would pitch however.
I'm guessing you mean the Kings one? I can see how it might be helpful, but idk what to take out for it.