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Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« on: November 08, 2010, 07:25:52 AM »
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This is a very unconventional deck that I'm not sure I like the looks of, but could be quite fun. Title explains it pretty well. Take a look...

Isaac
John the Baptist
   Transfiguration

Moses
Samson
Simeon
   Deborah's Directive
   Ehud's Dagger

Attending Angel
Captain of the Host
Gabriel (Di)
   Birth Foretold
   Protection of Angels

   Gloria in Excelsis Deo
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Elymas the Sorcerer
   Divination

Seven Sons of Sceva

Evil Spawn
Seven Wicked Spirits
Spirit of Temptation
The Thief
Wandering Spirit
   Deafening Spirit
   Destructive Sin

Astrologers
Damsel with Spirit of Divination
   Lurking
   Torment
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The Bronze Laver
Chariot of Fire
Magic Charms

Captured Ark
Unknown Nation
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The Gates of Hell

New Jerusalem
Promised Land

Golgotha
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Angel of the Lord
Grapes of Wrath
Guardian of Your Souls
Harvest Time
New Jerusalem
Son of God

Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away
Mayhem
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Hopper

Thorns
Site Guard
FoOF Discarder
2-Liner
Speed Bump
Revealer
Hand Discarder

I'm sure there are a lot of changes I could make to improve this deck, and that is why I am posting this. Any input would be great. Thanks! :)
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 09:00:38 AM »
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I like this. I'd add Spirit as a Dove. CBN if John the Baptist in play...
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 09:55:09 AM »
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I don't see this offense winning 3 souls.
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2010, 12:36:35 PM »
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I have to agree with Polarius. Birth foretold can be a nice battle winner in a larger theme, but basing a T1 deck around it just isn't going to work well in my opinion. If Gabriel is at the bottom of your deck, or he dies... the entire offense is destroyed.

Other things,

Protection does not stop opponents from beating you by numbers. As it stands, you don't have much in the way of battle winners OR large numbers. Protection is only really effective if you have some battle winners to back it up.

The only hero in your deck that Deborah's Directive can band to is moses, and he negates it. (DD says "CBN by an evil card.")
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 01:27:53 PM »
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Help from Heaven could actually be a decent addition to this deck.
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 06:39:04 PM »
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Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on November 08, 2010, 12:36:35 PM
The only hero in your deck that Deborah's Directive can band to is moses, and he negates it. (DD says "CBN by an evil card.")
Well, it can band to Samson and Isaac as well, can't it? I had it in my mind that it could band in John, too, so that I could have all 3 Birth Foretold heroes in at once for power numbers and ultimate protection, but at second glance I guess it can't do that, so that decreases its usefulness significantly...

I did try to set this up so that Birth Foretold is not the only card that can win souls (PoA, Transfig, Simeon + Captain), but most of what I rely on is banding, so if my opponent can counter that effectively, I'm most likely toast.

I think I'll just scrap this deck. Something like this might work in T2, but I don't think one copy of all the key cards is enough to be considered safe.

But how about the defense? Nobody commented on that. I thought it looked fun, although maybe a bit cookie-cutter.
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2010, 06:41:51 PM »
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KING MANASSEH.
Actually, maybe not.
I rarely draw him and when I do he doesn't do much...
What could I exchange with him & Gates?
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 11:09:58 PM »
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i think the deck looks a bit scrawny
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2010, 12:28:08 AM »
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Due to the new (bad) ruling on "instead," the Elymas chain doesn't work anymore. I don't see this defense blocking more than one or two rescues.
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2010, 12:35:43 AM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on November 09, 2010, 12:28:08 AM
Due to the new (bad) ruling on "instead," the Elymas chain doesn't work anymore. I don't see this defense blocking more than one or two rescues.
Crap, that's the same ruling that nerfed IAH + Chamber, isn't it? Although if this ruling also made it possible for Judas' Plot to stop SoG/NJ from winning the game at 3 points, I will not complain. I just need to totally change my deck...
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2010, 12:40:49 AM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on November 09, 2010, 12:28:08 AM
Due to the new (bad) ruling on "instead," the Elymas chain doesn't work anymore. I don't see this defense blocking more than one or two rescues.

Wait, so IaH and Chamber of Angels doesn't work anymore?  :'(
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Re: Birth Foretold/Magicians & Demons
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2010, 08:44:47 AM »
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