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Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« on: August 24, 2011, 09:14:33 PM »
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I was told by some, that it was impossible to make a ZT deck with the new fort destroyer cards so I immediatley set out to defy them, I decided to use my 5 min deck that I made at Nats this year as a base, and after another 5 minutes this was the result:

Lost Souls: 7

N.T. Only
Wanderer
Women Only
Lost Souls
Revealer
4 or greater
First round

Dominants: 10

Angel of the Lord
Grapes
Guardian
New Jerusalem
Son of God

Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away
Mayhem

Fortresses: 1

Zerubbabel's Temple

Artifacts: 5

Alter of Incense
Assyria's Tribute
Book of the Covenant
Chariot of Fire
Table of Showbread

Covenants: 2

Covenant with Levi
Covenant with Phineas

Multi-Color Enhancements: 4

Benedictus
First Fruits
Feast of Trumpets
Pentacost

Red Enhancements: 1

Standing in the Gap

Silver Enhancements: 1

Protection of Jerusalem

Teal Heroes: 9

Aaron (priests)
Eliashib
Jaddua
Joiada
Joiakim
Jonathan son of Joiada
Joshua
Phineas
Priests of Christ

Teal Enhancements: 7

Burning Incense
Filling Zerubbabel's Temple
Jehoiada's Strength
Jordan Interrupted
Scapegoat
Trumpet Blast
Zeal for the Lord

Pale Green Evil Characters: 5

Assyrian Archer
Assyrian Siege Army
Assyrian Survivor
King Sennacherib
The Rabsaris

Pale Green Enhancements: 6

Achans's Sin
Disobedience
Forgotten History
The Rabsaris Attacks
The Rabshekeh's Threats
Two Thousand Horses

So far, this deck has been undefeated in the six games it's played. If you find any huge unforgiveable errors in it, you must forgive me seeing as it was made in about five minutes. One thing I noticed about it is, it doesn't bode well against crimson. Joshua kills the average Isaiah/Angels/Assyrians deck, plus it has lots of protection from siege army, it did a pretty good job of decimating an egyptian deck, but it doesn't stop the anti-protect of Iron Pan. Any feedback would be awesome.

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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2011, 10:00:54 PM »
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Looks pretty solid to me. Seeing how important Table of Showbread is, though, I would put an Eli in there. While you're at it, I would fit in Aaron, Moses, and Eli's Sound Advice.
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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2011, 10:02:08 PM »
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I thought about adding them, but I couldn't find the room for them and didn't want to make it 63 cards (although, with the feast, that might not be a bad idea...)

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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2011, 10:40:15 PM »
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I think you can afford to take out one of your feasts, probably Trumpets. You can just replace your current Aaron with the Disciples one. If I were you, I'd probably get rid of Eliashib and Joiakim too, since all they do is band, besides using ZT.
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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2011, 10:41:02 PM »
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Wow, I probably would've been one of the people who said that you couldn't make a priest deck, let alone a ZT deck (solomon's Temple and Tabernacle are a bit more viable with Glory of the Lord) but looking at this, I think it could work, also, I wouldn'r reccomend making it 63, I think it wouldn't be worth it.

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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2011, 10:46:11 PM »
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The disciples Aaron only protects while he is in battle, the priests one does it as long as he remains in play.
Also, if I were gonna lose a feast I would also probably lose Trumpets, but it is a good LS getter, so I'm not sure...
As far as Eliashib and Jehoiakim, I was thinking of getting rid of them too, but 1: more and more, bands are essential to getting past some defenses (Woman of Thebez for example) and 2: Jehoiakim could also use the two fort protect enhancements.

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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2011, 11:20:27 PM »
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Ah, yeah, I didn't even consider the old Aaron being better. In that case, I'd forget Moses and Eli's Sound Advice. But I still would replace a feast with Eli I think. Also, as low as its power is now, I might get a Lampstand of the Sanctuary.

I might also consider getting rid of Book of the Covenant and Covenant with Levi. I mean, if you don't go up against a site deck, those are pretty much both just wasted slots. You could replace both of those with access sites if you want, especially since your Standing in the Gap will protect them. That would be better IMO. You could replace a LS with the Site Guard to utilize that, too.

Other cards to consider:
Cherubim (can play Protection and do other fun stuff, too)
Urim and Thummim (Any reason this is not in there?)
Ahimelek + The Silver Trumpets (probably not, since it's hard to get init with this offense, but an interesting idea)
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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 12:00:33 AM »
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cheribum is really good

Cherubim (FF2)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 4 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Look at opponent's hand and place the evil Dominants on deck. May band to Cherubim, a green Prophet or a teal Priest. • Identifiers: Generic OT Male Angel • Verse: Ezekiel 10:14 • Availability: Faith of our Fathers Extended booster packs (None)

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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2011, 09:35:17 AM »
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Thanks, I'll keep these in mind, plus I'm going on a vacation and will have all week with nothing else to do but test this out.

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I did alot of playing with this deck and found out:
1. Cheibum worked very well, possibly replaceing Eliashib,

2. Eli worked well, possibly replacing Jehoikim

3. My main prob with these two replacements is that I'd only have 4 out of my 9 heroes being ZT priests, which is kinda out of proportion seeing all the protection I have for them.

4. Feast of trumpets is hard to kick out, mainly because all of the new sets added LS generator cards and teal got nothing. This is the closest thing,
plus it has recur with Joiada

5. I see your point with Book of the Cov and Cov w\ Levi, I don't want to get rid of them, because there were many times when I put my book in my temple just to activate cov w\ Phineas while I had my Assyrian Tribute active as well, but I think that might be the best way to go.

6. Urim and Thummim I haven't tested yet.

7. I just thought that switching from assyrians to a Bab defense could work well, especially with the new Belshaazar being able to search fro a
temple artifact out the discard pile. I have lots of protection for my forts but not as much for my artifacts (Aaron and Jaddua) if a Siege army destroyed my Table of showbread after I played Standing in the gap which only last for upto five turns, I could be in trouble. Getting Altar of Incense out of the discard pile could also be very useful. The main reasobn why I wouldn't play Babs is because I wouldn't be able to use their strongest weapon, Iron Pan, because it would also destroy my protection, drawing, and ignoring.

With these in mind, any help?

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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2011, 10:02:45 AM »
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My main prob with these two replacements is that I'd only have 4 out of my 9 heroes being ZT priests, which is kinda out of proportion seeing all the protection I have for them.
Why would you need more? Your deck is dedicated to getting them and their protection out quickly enough that you shouldn't need more than 4 of them. In fact, you might only use Joshua the whole game.

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4. Feast of trumpets is hard to kick out, mainly because all of the new sets added LS generator cards and teal got nothing. This is the closest thing,
plus it has recur with Joiada
That's true, but I'm pretty sure most people are playing with speedy decks now, so I don't know how much you'll need this. But, see how much it helps and then decide whether you want to keep it. I just think three set aside drawers is too much. You might decide you want to take out First Fruits instead.

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5. I see your point with Book of the Cov and Cov w\ Levi, I don't want to get rid of them, because there were many times when I put my book in my temple just to activate cov w\ Phineas while I had my Assyrian Tribute active as well, but I think that might be the best way to go.
Maybe you should keep Book if you really want it, but I would still recommend replacing Cov w/ Levi with an access site. Access sites have uses even if you don't face a site deck (Trumpet Blast, Site Guard LS, etc.), and they are protected with Standing.

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6. Urim and Thummim I haven't tested yet.
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7. I just thought that switching from assyrians to a Bab defense could work well, especially with the new Belshaazar being able to search fro a
temple artifact out the discard pile. I have lots of protection for my forts but not as much for my artifacts (Aaron and Jaddua) if a Siege army destroyed my Table of showbread after I played Standing in the gap which only last for upto five turns, I could be in trouble. Getting Altar of Incense out of the discard pile could also be very useful. The main reasobn why I wouldn't play Babs is because I wouldn't be able to use their strongest weapon, Iron Pan, because it would also destroy my protection, drawing, and ignoring.
I wouldn't switch. Without being able to use Iron Pan, Babs aren't particularly strong.

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With these in mind, any help?
Unholy Writ? I don't see a good reason not to have that in here. Also, if you have trouble with your opponent not drawing souls, Harvest Time and the Hopper are good adds I think.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2011, 10:05:25 AM by BubbleBoy »
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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2011, 10:39:01 AM »
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Feast of Trumpets is still good. I played the fastest type of speed deck yesterday, and the bottom 3 cards were LS's. Even in a speed deck you can still get lucky droughts.
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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2011, 01:11:04 PM »
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Feast of Trumpets is still good. I played the fastest type of speed deck yesterday, and the bottom 3 cards were LS's. Even in a speed deck you can still get lucky droughts.

So do you reccomend keeping all three of the feasts or getting rid of a diiferant one?

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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2011, 10:59:42 PM »
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I don't necessarily recommend Feast of Trumpets, just pointing out that it can be of value.
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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2011, 11:07:47 PM »
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I'd definitely throw in Cherubim (getting rid of dominants is amazing, since Z-temple takes care of pretty much all the rest of the ways you can lose.

You might also consider throwing in striking herod, but it might be too inconsistent.

I'd also do:

Out:
Joiada
Another priest of your choice
Burning Incense

In:
Zechariah
Jeremiah/any other teal/green character
Two Bears

Two bears is, imo, the better battle winner.
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Re: Modern ZT Assyrian deck
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 08:07:21 AM »
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Out:
Joiada
Another priest of your choice
Burning Incense
I don't know why on earth you would take out Joiada. He's like your second best hero. Also, if you take out Burning Incense, you might as well take out Altar of Incense, too, since it's just shadowed by Cov w/ Phinehas otherwise.

And if you add Two Bears, definitely get Haggai in here. Also consider Provisions if you add any green, though that may be too much set aside in this deck.
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