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Is anyone else thinking that the hardcore anti-meta defense is going to be built around

Jezebel
KoT (PoC)
Foreign Wives
Lot's Wife
The Deciever
The God of this World
Priest of Zeus
Gates of Hell

I mean just those characters and Gates are going to kick around the green prophets  . . if they can get out fast enough

I also like the the crimson bear against the meta since it has to be discarded and lots of the green winners, withdraw, remove, shuffle

Absolutely! And don't forget [EDITED BY R.O.S.E.S.]. Oh wait, we haven't shown that Evil Character yet.

This is what it takes to beat Green Prophets.

Confusion of Mind
Covenant with Death
Moses (CoW)
Nazareth
Golden Calf

Even then, you might need to get a little lucky to pull out a 5-4 win... 

Guys, c'mon, clearly we need to be running Lamentation of Rachel



...although I will say, Jezebel + Overtaken would be legit.  GG Isaiah/Zeke

Don't think I haven't thought about building a Syrian defense with Naaman and Lamentation of Rachel...

LoR in reserve with wages in deck might not be a bad choice

Quote from: The Guardian on February 26, 2019, 02:29:05 PM

This is what it takes to beat Green Prophets.

Confusion of Mind
Covenant with Death
Moses (CoW)
Nazareth
Golden Calf

Even then, you might need to get a little lucky to pull out a 5-4 win... 

You don't need Golden Calf, but yeah, I can vouch that that works. Not sure about having to get lucky though... 

But how to deal with Moses (CoW) and Nazarath in your own deck in order not to restrict yourself?

Quote from: TheJaylor on February 26, 2019, 04:09:02 PM

Quote from: The Guardian on February 26, 2019, 02:29:05 PM

This is what it takes to beat Green Prophets.

Confusion of Mind
Covenant with Death
Moses (CoW)
Nazareth
Golden Calf

Even then, you might need to get a little lucky to pull out a 5-4 win... 

You don't need Golden Calf, but yeah, I can vouch that that works. Not sure about having to get lucky though... 

But how to deal with Moses (CoW) and Nazarath in your own deck in order not to restrict yourself?

Play a deck that can utilize territory class cloud cards and in-battle speed special abilities for Moses and for Nazareth play a deck that naturally gets most of it's extra cards through drawing, recursion, or Reserve access than straight up deck searches. Also remember it's ok to play cards that get stopped by your own counters since A. you don't need to entirely not care about your own counters you just need them to hurt the opponent more than you and B. the opponent is going to try and negate or remove your counters and once they do you'll be able to go back to playing territory class stuff and searching just like the opponent except now they've spent resources to remove the counters so they've still generated value.

It's a card from Women that discards all Green brigade Heroes in play. 

Am I missing something with Prophets? They don't seem to be just exceptional.

Am I missing something with Prophets? They don't seem to be just exceptional.

See now you saying this just makes me want to come down for your tournament and roll the field with my Green Prophets deck, but alas I'm running my own tournament...

Now now, let's not get too carried away...sounds like there's going to be several top players at the Win A Box tournament. While I feel that my experience, knowledge of the game and dedication to deck testing give me a chance to win any tournament I enter, I would never go so far as to guarantee a first place finish... my "roll the field" comment was tongue in cheek since Green Prophets haven't rolled the field in a long long time. 

I'm just truly excited because I think there are many, many different themes viable to the point where they can contend at the highest level tournaments, and I can say for certain that Green Prophets will be among the best options. 

It's sad that Judean Mediums (in Reserve) is almost required in defenses nowadays. That said, Reserve evil cards are shot by Green's STAR cards, so there's almost no point in relying on anything in Reserve anymore...

Honestly, this kind of small defense crumbles if the Green gets even a remotely decent draw. Green is now stacked with interrupts aplenty, not even mentioning anything forthcoming (First Sacrifice is Samuel's Edict but better, for some reason?). You're basically hoping to have the better Dom matchup; ie hope the Green doesn't have Grapes or CoF to extend the battle if you decide to block and win, hope you have CM for Ezekiel or Isaiah at the right time (or hope they don't draw their plethora of CBN Enhancements), hope you don't get hit with Cherubim or Elisha when you have a few evil Doms in hand, and hope you're able to do all of that around Jonah and/or Habbakuk.

It's all doable, of course, but it's a pain. And considering most decks should be running the Orphans LS, I wouldn't rely on Bear a lick (not to mention Zeke kills Bear CBN with both his Enhancements, with no effort). Unless you have Love and no one runs Orphans.

First Sacrifice

inb4 edited by R.O.S.E.S.?

Quote from: Kevinthedude on February 27, 2019, 02:40:20 PM

Quote from: Master Q on February 27, 2019, 02:12:03 PM

First Sacrifice

inb4 edited by R.O.S.E.S.?

That one was spoiled on LoR on Monday.

Ah, right. Hard to remember that cards can sometimes be found in places besides searching Lackey.