Author Topic: Jenny locked the door (Read 3160 times)

Alex_Olijar · « **on:** August 02, 2009, 03:12:29 PM »

Deckcount: 52

Lost Souls: 8
Hopper
Revealer
Site Discard
Deck Discard
Color Guard
Site Double
Two-Line
Can't be Prevented

Dominants: 6
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of the Lord
Harvest Time
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan

Artifacts/Curses: 4
Lampstand of the Sanctuary
Confusion of Mind
Holy of Holies
Chariot of Fire

Fortresses: 2
Wall of Protection
The Tabernacle

Sites: 7
Babylon x3
BBH
Hormah
Pergamum
Promised Land

Heroes: 6
Jacob
Levi
Simeon
Leah
Asher
Zebulun

Good Enhancements: 6
Jacob's Dream
Well Reopened
Journey to Egypt
Obedience of Noah
Reuben's Torn Clothes
Abraham's Servant to Ur

Evil Characters: 6
Alexander
High Priest Anaias
Judas Iscariot
King Zimri
Frog Demons
Messenger of Satan

Evil Enhancements: 7
Danites Attack
High Priest's Plot
Lying unto God
Love of Money
Confusion
Death of Unrighteous
Belshazzar's Banquet

Game 1: Loss to Chronic Apathy, 5-2
I had SoG/NJ in hand, waiting for when He was going to give me the 2line, so it could have been 5-4. I made a few bad plays, and was caught offguard by both a JT and a Glory of the Lord protecting a site access artifact. I could have pulled a confusion turn 3 without the turn 1 JT, and I did pull a HPP turn 6 or 7, discarding AoCp. Overall, I am happy with the way this deck looked, and with some mods, it should work.

The Guardian · « **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2009, 03:16:43 PM »

I give up, why Frog Demons?

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2009, 03:18:01 PM »

I share this befuddlement. Otherwise, looks relatively fun.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2009, 03:19:17 PM »

Immunity to Pergamum's color and access to confusion. I didn't really see any significantly better options in such a deck as this.

My main concerns are the ratios. I'm not sure if I have enough characters. I'm thinking about dropping something for Self. Offensively, I don't care as much, since ideally I will just Zebulun, but defensively it's important for me to lockout fast. I also want to try to fit a Brass Serpent in. Suggestions to drop? I don't want to go above 52, and preferably drop to 50.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #4 on:** August 02, 2009, 04:41:13 PM »

You could get by without Promised Land IMO. If your opponent does use sites, most likely either you will use your sites for access or your opponent will do so; either way you won't have a problem. (Besides, you have two site-stealing enhancements in your arsenal.)

Secondly, I would replace your High Priest with a generic Sadducee.

Lastly, I would take out Frog Demons to put in Hophni and Phinehas with the space left from Promised Land.

That's just what I would do though. ...

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #5 on:** August 02, 2009, 04:47:25 PM »

Promised Land has definately seemed like the most fluff thus far. Since I haven't played with this, I won't be making any changes unless I am blown away, but that's definately on my short list. My goal with Promised Land is to help speed up the offense a bit by stopping early lockouts by the opponent, but that's somewhat unneeded probably. However, I'd probably drop it for Brass Serpent instead.

The High Priest is there mostly for help against FBTN. An earlier version of this deck made about a week ago didn't have Holy of Holies or CBP soul (epic fail). As such, I used a big numbered guy. I am comtemplating switching back to a generic sadducee before I play the deck though.

If I do take out Frog Demons, I wouldn't use Phinehas and Hophni. I'm going to have enough issues ensuring I get confusion off early or at all in every game. I don't need to discard two more characters that can easily use it.

What would you guys think of adding in a Cup or Wrath? I think by setting up a side battle, it'll help speed up getting Confusion or High Priest's Plot out.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** August 02, 2009, 04:51:41 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 02, 2009, 04:47:25 PM

I wouldn't use Phinehas and Hophni. I'm going to have enough issues ensuring I get confusion off early or at all in every game. I don't need to discard two more characters that can easily use it.

The beauty of Phinehas and Hophni is that you don't have to use the ability at all if you don't want; they're just low-numbered guys that can band if you want them to. In the end, after you have used both your PG Enhancements, they can be nice auto-block guys if you need 'em.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #7 on:** August 02, 2009, 04:58:30 PM »

There's no point of including something I don't plan on using for the ability. That's card fluff. If I just wanted low numbered PG, I would choose King Jehoikim. Not only would he compliment my obedience of noah possibly, he gives as good of initiative as I can get. No point compromising, I might as well go as low as I can.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #8 on:** August 02, 2009, 05:00:45 PM »

Well I don't know why you would ever refuse to use their abilities, but if you do, then I guess I would go with Jehoiakim. $:-\$

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #9 on:** August 02, 2009, 05:04:27 PM »

If it's turn, say 3 or 4, and I have those two in my hand and confusion, would I rather use and and play Confusion to get SoG/NJ and then die or use both and maybe block? The point of this deck is destroy the SoG as soon as I can and then lockout them out before they get to 5. Phinehas/Hophni is just a delay factor, I don't see it being much more useful than osme other options.

Clarinetguy097 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 02, 2009, 05:21:01 PM »

Needs more enhancements.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #11 on:** August 02, 2009, 05:22:34 PM »

Lol wut? More enhancements? I'm trying to win with the deck, not overload it with unusable cards. You don't understand the strategy here if you want enhancements in here.

crustpope · « **Reply #12 on:** August 03, 2009, 02:03:11 AM »

What about holy unto the Lord for an extra d/c of an evil card each turn? You always have Asher to get them back as long as they are genesis. Perhpas a Rebecah or Sarah to help with Simeons ability? Dove could help too if you only have jacob and want to do the same thing as Simeon.

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #13 on:** August 03, 2009, 02:23:53 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 02, 2009, 04:51:41 PM

The beauty of Phinehas and Hophni is that you don't have to use the ability at all if you don't want; they're just low-numbered guys that can band if you want them to. In the end, after you have used both your PG Enhancements, they can be nice auto-block guys if you need 'em.

True, but he's never going to have the opportunity to use both. He doesn't have any PG battlestoppers that don't kill the EC, so it's going to be extremely rare that he use one of those guys for their enhancements one turn and have them survive to use their band-to-discard the next.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2009, 08:00:33 AM »

Right, that's true; I didn't really think of that.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #15 on:** August 03, 2009, 11:01:20 AM »

Quote from: crustpope on August 03, 2009, 02:03:11 AM

What about holy unto the Lord for an extra d/c of an evil card each turn? You always have Asher to get them back as long as they are genesis. Perhpas a Rebecah or Sarah to help with Simeons ability? Dove could help too if you only have jacob and want to do the same thing as Simeon.

Decent Idea on I am Holy, but my artifact slot will always be taken either Confusion of Mind or Holy of Holies.

Quote from: Tsavong Lah on August 03, 2009, 02:23:53 AM

Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 02, 2009, 04:51:41 PM
The beauty of Phinehas and Hophni is that you don't have to use the ability at all if you don't want; they're just low-numbered guys that can band if you want them to. In the end, after you have used both your PG Enhancements, they can be nice auto-block guys if you need 'em.

True, but he's never going to have the opportunity to use both. He doesn't have any PG battlestoppers that don't kill the EC, so it's going to be extremely rare that he use one of those guys for their enhancements one turn and have them survive to use their band-to-discard the next.

This is the jist of what I was trying to say, but said better.

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