Author Topic: Tournament Ready? (Read 4606 times)

Beautiful Light · « **on:** October 18, 2011, 06:41:57 PM »

Alright, so this is the first deck I tried on my own. I know it may need some work, but I'm not sure where. So this is what I have so far. I'd love suggestions on how to improve it! I'd really also love to get it down to 50, or close to it. Any ideas?

Lost Souls: 7
three liner
shuffler (Luke 16:20-21)
shuffler (Ezekiel 31:14)
NT only
female/SOG only
~~opponent discard (1 Cor. 1:27)~~ revealer
immunity to brigade (Jeremiah 13:10)

Sites: 2
DR
~~Golgotha~~ Hormah

Fortresses: 2
TGT
~~Haman's Gallows~~ Philistine Outpost

Dominants: 11
SoG
NJ
AoTL
GoYS
Grapes
Harvest
Burial
CM
DoN
Mayhem
FA

Artifacts: 4
Unholy Writ
Holy Grail
Gifts of the Magi
~~Four Drachma Coin~~ Chariots of Fire

~~Covenants: 1~~
~~The New Covenant~~

White Heroes: 8
Mary the Mother of James
Salome
Mary Magdalene
Joanna
Lydia
Susanna
Mary
Jairus' Daughter

Green Heroes: 1
Hur

Purple Heroes: 2
John
Matthew

Red Heroes: 1
Peter

Purple Good Enhancements: 2
Reach of Desperation
Prosperity

White Good Enhancements: 10
He is Risen
No Need for Spices
Magnificent
Consider the Lilies
~~Burning Bush~~
Words of Encouragement
Moses and Elders
Love at First Sight
Spirit as a Dove
Blessings
Holy Priesthood

Black Evil Characters: 5
Goliath
Philistine Garrison
The Twelve-Fingered Giant
Philistine Armor Bearer
Fallen Warrior

Black Evil Enhancements: 7
Land Dispute
Philistine Chariot and Horses
Bringing Fear
Overwhelmed by Philistines
Goliath's Armor
Devourer
Joseph in Prison

Brown Evil Characters: 2
Uzzah
Complainers

Brown Evil Enhancements: 3
Image of Jealousy
Korah's Rebellion
Haman's Plot

Nameless · « **Reply #1 on:** October 18, 2011, 07:00:32 PM »

how many is it now?

Beautiful Light · « **Reply #2 on:** October 18, 2011, 07:01:50 PM »

It's 56, but I'd rather get it down, so I can draw dominants faster!

Isildur · « **Reply #3 on:** October 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM »

Whats exactly wrong with the deck outside of it not being 51 cards (points to hamans plot)? It looks like the standard dummy proof deck and looks like it should do well.

Nameless · « **Reply #4 on:** October 18, 2011, 07:07:25 PM »

out

Gifts of the Magi
Lydia
Susanna
Hur
Prosperity
Burning Bush
Complainers
Image of Jealousy
Korah's Rebellion
In
Gomar
Phli
Bart
Thad
James
the other one
Thom
Simon the zelot
that 54

Beautiful Light · « **Reply #5 on:** October 18, 2011, 07:14:09 PM »

Thanks! I don't know if there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Low confidence at deck building I guess, since it's my first one. I have a tornament coming up (first one of those too) and want to make sure it's good enough to enter with!

Beautiful Light · « **Reply #6 on:** October 18, 2011, 08:05:16 PM »

I do not have a Goliath promo or passover hymn YET, but I thank you for the advice! Noted for the future!

Red Wing · « **Reply #7 on:** October 18, 2011, 08:48:14 PM »

Quote from: Nameless on October 18, 2011, 07:07:25 PM

out

Gifts of the Magi
Lydia
Susanna
Hur
Prosperity
Burning Bush
Complainers
Image of Jealousy
Korah's Rebellion
In
Gomar
Phli
Bart
Thad
James
the other one
Thom
Simon the zelot
that 54

I agree with everything except taking out Susanna. She might be the best hero in this deck. Take out Golgotha instead.

browarod · « **Reply #8 on:** October 18, 2011, 09:26:54 PM »

Never ever take out Susanna if you're using any NT white. Srsly. She's like the best hero.

lightningninja · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2011, 09:32:37 PM »

Why Matthew? I'm assuming you meant the purple one, because with no red enhancements you have NO reason to put in a red Matthew (is there even a red matthew)? You only have three Disciples, so you have to have every one of them out for the draw to work effectively. And take out the purple enhancements unless you have a battle winner. You want to win pretty quickly, so attacking with purple and not being able to win a battle is not a very good bet. Either bump up the purple a bit, perhaps add in Thomas, James, Son of Zebedee, and authority of Christ or just keep John and take out Matthew and the two enhancements.

Red Wing · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2011, 10:07:58 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on October 18, 2011, 09:32:37 PM

Why Matthew? I'm assuming you meant the purple one, because with no red enhancements you have NO reason to put in a red Matthew (is there even a red matthew)? You only have three Disciples, so you have to have every one of them out for the draw to work effectively. And take out the purple enhancements unless you have a battle winner. You want to win pretty quickly, so attacking with purple and not being able to win a battle is not a very good bet. Either bump up the purple a bit, perhaps add in Thomas, James, Son of Zebedee, and authority of Christ or just keep John and take out Matthew and the two enhancements.

There isnt a red Matthew. There's a purple one and a Green one. I'm assuming it's the purple one, so my guess would be he's mainly in there to Draw and recur "He is Risen." But add more purple or you can just take it out

Beautiful Light · « **Reply #11 on:** October 19, 2011, 06:18:42 PM »

Yes, I meant purple Matthew (whoops), for the purpose of the draw, not battle winning. Fixing the color now, thanks!

Beautiful Light · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2011, 07:06:07 PM »

If I take out brown, won't my defense be too small? Is it ok to have a lot of offense with little defense? Also, why is it recommended to take out Hur? He is great for his ability!

Red Wing · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2011, 07:10:58 PM »

Quote from: Beautiful Light on October 19, 2011, 07:06:07 PM

If I take out brown, won't my defense be too small? Is it ok to have a lot of offense with little defense? Also, why is it recommended to take out Hur? He is great for his ability!

If you look at the complete decks section of the forum, most tourney winning T1 decks are offense-heavy. It all depends on how quickly you can win. Hur is great, but only if you get Gifts out. There are other things for speed that fit better in this theme. Pentecost and First Fruits for example

Beautiful Light · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2011, 07:16:23 PM »

Noted! Thanks a lot! So if I pull Hur and add pentecost and first fruits, what other recommendations do you have? I wasn't looking to make this strictly Gardenciples, but it seems that most recommendations are to do so. I guess I don't understand the benefit of adding more disciples, with no purple enhancements.

Beautiful Light · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2011, 07:27:12 PM »

Quote from: Isildur on October 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM

Whats exactly wrong with the deck outside of it not being 51 cards (points to hamans plot)?

Actually, I can do 50 (points to haman's gallows)!

Red Wing · « **Reply #16 on:** October 19, 2011, 07:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Beautiful Light on October 19, 2011, 07:16:23 PM

Noted! Thanks a lot! So if I pull Hur and add pentecost and first fruits, what other recommendations do you have? I wasn't looking to make this strictly Gardenciples, but it seems that most recommendations are to do so. I guess I don't understand the benefit of adding more disciples, with no purple enhancements.

I'd suggest:
taking out
Hur
Gifts
No Need for Spices
Burning Bush
Prosperity
Golgatha

and exchange the immunity LS for something else

and adding in
AoCP
My Lord & My God
First Fruits
Pentacost
Philip
Bartholemew

Quote from: Beautiful Light on October 19, 2011, 07:27:12 PM

Quote from: Isildur on October 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
Whats exactly wrong with the deck outside of it not being 51 cards (points to hamans plot)?

Actually, I can do 50 (points to haman's gallows)!

True, but make sure you dont play the Plot without Gallows in play!

lp670sv · « **Reply #17 on:** October 19, 2011, 08:34:19 PM »

Quote from: Red Wing on October 19, 2011, 07:39:46 PM

True, but make sure you dont play the Plot without Gallows in play!

I'm guessing he only has one and wouldn't play it without gallows, regardless of deck size. Not all of us have stacks of plots ready for such occasions

SomeKittens · « **Reply #18 on:** October 19, 2011, 08:43:52 PM »

Quote from: Beautiful Light on October 19, 2011, 07:27:12 PM

Quote from: Isildur on October 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
Whats exactly wrong with the deck outside of it not being 51 cards (points to hamans plot)?

Actually, I can do 50 (points to haman's gallows)!

Usually Gallows isn't worth the slot in top decks.

Red Wing · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2011, 08:55:48 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on October 19, 2011, 08:43:52 PM

Quote from: Beautiful Light on October 19, 2011, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: Isildur on October 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
Whats exactly wrong with the deck outside of it not being 51 cards (points to hamans plot)?

Actually, I can do 50 (points to haman's gallows)!
Usually Gallows isn't worth the slot in top decks.

For someone who can't check 8 identical decks just to use Plot, it's worth a spot IMHO.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #20 on:** October 19, 2011, 09:30:07 PM »

Absolutely. That's why I said top decks.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #21 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:27:20 PM »

Quote from: Red Wing on October 19, 2011, 08:55:48 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on October 19, 2011, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: Beautiful Light on October 19, 2011, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: Isildur on October 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
Whats exactly wrong with the deck outside of it not being 51 cards (points to hamans plot)?

Actually, I can do 50 (points to haman's gallows)!
Usually Gallows isn't worth the slot in top decks.

For someone who can't check 8 identical decks just to use Plot, it's worth a spot IMHO.

2 decks with HP at 50; 1 at 50 without Plot OR 1 with 51 with a Plot (which will probably be ripped first game).

Beautiful Light · « **Reply #22 on:** October 22, 2011, 10:59:45 AM »

Ok, so does anyone recommend going with just white N.T. females, and no disciples? I have heard that this can be beneficial with GT, especially with Susanna.

browarod · « **Reply #23 on:** October 22, 2011, 11:34:59 AM »

I don't know for sure about 2P, but I rather like a mix of Disciples and NT females for my multiplayer deck.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #24 on:** October 22, 2011, 11:59:39 AM »

I prefer solid white. Maybe a splash of purple with John, Lois, Reach, and AoCP. And maybe Lydia in your white.

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